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That's why I'm in favor of just saying"**** it"and power through one more season with this group. Teams are offering second round picks for Pierce. He scored 19ppg this season. Second round picks are dookie. If they aren't getting unprotected firsts in the next couple of years, it's not worth it.
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That's why I'm in favor of just saying"**** it"and power through one more season with this group. Teams are offering second round picks for Pierce. He scored 19ppg this season. Second round picks are dookie. If they aren't getting unprotected firsts in the next couple of years, it's not worth it.
aren't you guys trying to trade KG for a second round pick?

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Erik Spoelstra is the second longest tenured coach in the NBA now. That's pretty crazy.
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I doubt that, but if they are...that's just dumb. Either be able to sell everything of for a decent return (including Bass, Terry, maybe even Lee), or stick with this group. I'd the young guys get healthy (ironic, no?), they're still a top 4-5 team in the east capable of taking anyone out in the playoffs.
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I don't think there's any way to get the money to work on that.

EDIT: nevermind. It could...maybe.

I think there's a way to get Pierce's contract to count less than $6m for the Mavs, but I can't figure it out at the moment.

Make the Mavs take on Terry's (and hopefully Bass's) contract and get the money to work with a S&T for Mayo.
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It's ******** that they can't. The Celtics have no leverage now, everybody knows they want to sell and can lowball them.
The majority of the leverage was taken away by KGs no trade clause. Now that we are clearly going into a rebuild it is up to him if he will open that up to a few more teams.

Let's see what Ainge can do with KG and PP before we decide how this situation is.

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EDIT: nevermind. It could...maybe.

I think there's a way to get Pierce's contract to count less than $6m for the Mavs, but I can't figure it out at the moment.

Make the Mavs take on Terry's (and hopefully Bass's) contract and get the money to work with a S&T for Mayo.
Pierce has a $5mm buyout of his current contract. That buyout needs to be triggered by June 30 (or somewhere close to that). If we buy out Pierce he is a FA, if we don't he has a salary of $15mm. I doubt Ainge will buy Pierce out because he still has value to a contender. I think he will either get traded on draft night or close to the trade deadline.

Personally I think it's pretty likely Pierce gets traded at some point. I think it's 50/50 on KG. He might be willing to go to other teams, or he might just decide to be stubbornly loyal, play out the year, and then retire.
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I doubt that, but if they are...that's just dumb. Either be able to sell everything of for a decent return (including Bass, Terry, maybe even Lee), or stick with this group. I'd the young guys get healthy (ironic, no?), they're still a top 4-5 team in the east capable of taking anyone out in the playoffs.
ah, i just mean deandre was from the second round, albeit, it was attitude and immaturity concerns that pushed him down.

There's a lot of gems that could be found in the 2nd round though including marc gasol, ginobli parsons and boozer. Just have to have a keen eye.
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The C's are hosed without Jordan as far as being able to re-form the team and start building around a new core.

I honestly don't see the point in getting rid of either Paul Pierce or KG at this point. Hold off on the rebuilding one more year because you can't really start doing it this year anyway.

What's the point of buying out Pierce? They still wouldn't be under the cap and they just wouldn't have Paul Pierce. What would they get, a $10m exception? What would they do with it? Probably just bank it.

When talking about trading Pierce and KG, we aren't hearing premium resources coming back to Boston. We're hearing picks in the late first round and second round.

Maybe they could get Dallas's lotto pick for KG, but why would KG play for Dallas over Boston? Boston, as currently constituted, is a better team.

I was in favor of starting the rebuilding process 2 years ago. Now? Why? It's too late. There were legitimate commodities available back then. The market is barren now.

Rondo coming back, hopefully Bradley and Sullinger (zero hope for the latter) are healthy as well...

Rondo/Bradley
Pierce/Lee/Terry/Crawford/Williams
Green
Bass/Sullinger
KG/Melo

If they can pickup a quality big and a one (Kaman and Bynum?), and dump some of their exc(usel)ess 2-guards, they're good for another run.

Pierce's entire contract comes off the books and KG probably retires to put the C's in a really nice spot, cap-wise, in 2014/15 without having traded two of the greatest Celtics ever for, essentially, nothing. Provided a slight bit of magic with Bass, Terry, and Lee, only Rondo and Green should be on the books...maybe Sully.

TL;DR: I'd rather have another run with Pierce & KG than a bunch of second round draft picks any day of the week.
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ah, i just mean deandre was from the second round, albeit, it was attitude and immaturity concerns that pushed him down.

There's a lot of gems that could be found in the 2nd round though including marc gasol, ginobli parsons and boozer. Just have to have a keen eye.
You just named just about all of them. The percentage is extremely low. especially at the bottom of the second round.
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About time he got hired. I like the fit for that team as well. They are young, but they got veterans like Andre Miller who he can depend on as well as an extra coach on the floor.
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The Clippers went from 15-1 to 10-1 to be champs next season. I really hope that's based off of Chris Paul re-signing and not Doc Rivers being the coach. Otherwise, they're mad. Doc is horribly overrated. It's kind of hilarious the C's pulled a first rounder out of the Clippers for him.
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About time he got hired. I like the fit for that team as well. They are young, but they got veterans like Andre Miller who he can depend on as well as an extra coach on the floor.
ehh, from a lot of pacer fans I've heard say that Shaw was the main responsible one for Paul George's development. I would've liked to see him take the C's job and work with Jeff Green who really came on the last half of the season.

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The Clippers went from 15-1 to 10-1 to be champs next season. I really hope that's based off of Chris Paul re-signing and not Doc Rivers being the coach. Otherwise, they're mad. Doc is horribly overrated. It's kind of hilarious the C's pulled a first rounder out of the Clippers for him.
He can't be that bad, he demolished us when we were favored in 2008 and bounced those loaded Lebron lead Cavs several times out of the playoffs and played the heat tough last season. His regular season doesn't reflect the Celtics playoffs success, despite only winning 1 championship. but then again you obviously have more knowledge about him than I do.
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Doc is a significant upgrade from Del Negro.
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Doc is probably a top three coach in the league..
Was just about to say this.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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KG is probably a top three coach in the league..
fixed that for you.
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