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Old 07-03-2013, 07:20 PM    (permalink
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So we're just giving up on the next two years? That should tell you how ****** this team has been managed that we need to do this.

This off-season has been brutal. We're making terrible additions that pretty much kill any flexibility we have in the next two years. JR Smith is also ******* terrible, so there's that.

And like I said, if we're giving up on the next two years, we should not be taking on absurd salary for multiple years. We also should not be giving away draft picks. And we should considering trading Melo. We could get a premium haul for him, more than likely. He is overrated but teams are dumb enough to overreact to his scoring totals.
Tyson Chandler is still awesome, so **** you Alex.
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he's 27 so you have a bit of time to see if they mesh and maybe you have a bad season and get lucky in the lottery. if they manage to be bad enough to get wiggins or even jabari parker, you have no reason to trade rondo.
With Rondo, Green, and Wallace they could still end up the 8th seed in the East.

Think about it. Atlanta crashing and burning from the 7th seed, Milwaukee loses Ellis and Reddick, Philly is straight tanking, Toronto may be getting rid of their best player, Cleveland, Charlotte, and Orlando still have a ways to go.... They very well could end up the 8th seed.
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With Rondo, Green, and Wallace they could still end up the 8th seed in the East.

Think about it. Atlanta crashing and burning from the 7th seed, Milwaukee loses Ellis and Reddick, Philly is straight tanking, Toronto may be getting rid of their best player, Cleveland, Charlotte, and Orlando still have a ways to go.... They very well could end up the 8th seed.
Rondo will not play for at least half the season and Gerald Wallace is ******* terrible. The Celtics will blow.
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I don't understand how Green is seen as a centerpiece.
He is going to regress so hard.
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Rondo will not play for at least half the season and Gerald Wallace is ******* terrible. The Celtics will blow.
Considering the other teams I mentioned, they have the best team.... Someone HAS to be the 8th seed.
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Tyson Chandler is still awesome, so **** you Alex.
Tyson is fine. I personally believe he's overrated for what he is paid, but he is certainly not close to being our biggest issue.

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I gave up once we traded picks for teh Bargs.
Me too. I hate how this team is managed. First, we get insanely older. Now we're trading for ****** players and signing crappy ones under the premise we just have to hold out until 2015. If you're going to have to do that you should blow the team up. Don't play this middle of the road thing. As BBD has said himself, being stuck in the middle of good and bad is the worst thing possible in the NBA. Either suck or make a balls to the walls effort to improve.

We are not beating the Heat. We're not beating the Pacers. Hell, if Rose comes back and plays well, we're not beat the Bulls either.
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Considering the other teams I mentioned, they have the best team.... Someone HAS to be the 8th seed.
If Rondo misses the entire season, I honestly believe the Celtics can compete for last in the East.

Mentioning them in the same vein as the Hawks is laughable.

The Cavs with Kyrie, Varejao and an improved Tristan Thompson is a nice core not to mention Bennett. Clearly better than Boston.

Philly definitely sucks.

Raps still have Calderon (rumor has it he will resign) and Jonas....that is better than Crash and Jeff Green, regardless of your thoughts on Rudy Cool.

Bobcats suck.

Orlando should suck, but Dipo and Harkless is going to be so nasty defensively and Vucevic/Tobias Harris can keep improving.

The Bucks are going to lose Monta, this makes them better. A Sanders-Ilyasova-Jennigs trio is far better than the C's.
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Tyson is fine. I personally believe he's overrated for what he is paid, but he is certainly not close to being our biggest issue.



Me too. I hate how this team is managed. First, we get insanely older. Now we're trading for ****** players and signing crappy ones under the premise we just have to hold out until 2015. If you're going to have to do that you should blow the team up. Don't play this middle of the road thing. As BBD has said himself, being stuck in the middle of good and bad is the worst thing possible in the NBA. Either suck or make a balls to the walls effort to improve.

We are not beating the Heat. We're not beating the Pacers. Hell, if Rose comes back and plays well, we're not beat the Bulls either.
The problem is that the team is not viewing this as holding out until 2015....hence the trades for terrible guys that apparently are still well regarded in some circles (ie: Dolan's office).
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Dude, Jennings sucks.
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Dude, Jennings sucks.
Dammit, Brody. I was going to put the same disclaimer I did with Mr. Cool, but I was lazy.
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If Rondo misses the entire season, I honestly believe the Celtics can compete for last in the East.

Mentioning them in the same vein as the Hawks is laughable.

The Cavs with Kyrie, Varejao and an improved Tristan Thompson is a nice core not to mention Bennett. Clearly better than Boston.

Philly definitely sucks.

Raps still have Calderon (rumor has it he will resign) and Jonas....that is better than Crash and Jeff Green, regardless of your thoughts on Rudy Cool.

Bobcats suck.

Orlando should suck, but Dipo and Harkless is going to be so nasty defensively and Vucevic/Tobias Harris can keep improving.

The Bucks are going to lose Monta, this makes them better. A Sanders-Ilyasova-Jennigs trio is far better than the C's.
But two of the playoff seeds that was last year were the Hawks and Celtics.

Youre right about the Cavs, but Varejao only played like 30 games last year and is a expirer. Could be traded so they play Tristan and Bennett more (pretty sure they resigned Gee, so small ball could be in play).

It depends on IF Jose signs and IF they dont trade Rudy Cool... They could be the playoff team that replaces the Hawks.

Bucks stay in the playoffs.

Who do you see as the 8 seeds in the East?
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That ping pong ball is going to magically land for Toronto no matter what. I'm not holding out any kind of hope for Wiggins. He's going to Toronto.
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Dude. The Hawks are fine. Definitely good enough to make the playoffs.

My guess:

Miami
Chicago
Indiana
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Milwaukee, Cavs or Raptors
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people know who alonzo gee is?
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He's pretty decent.
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Washington will be the 6 seed

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Brooklyn
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would be my guess if Rondo plays at all
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Yeah, that dude from Baylor.
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Totally forgot about them. Good call.
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Dude. The Hawks are fine. Definitely good enough to make the playoffs.

My guess:

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The Hawks? One of their best players is coming back from his own ACL surgery. They have Horford, Teague..... But then they drafted PGs in the draft?
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He's pretty decent.
Yeah, he wouldn't bother me as much if he could realize his severe offensive limitations. His defense is valuable at least.
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The Hawks? One of their best players is coming back from his own ACL surgery. They have Horford, Teague..... But then they drafted PGs in the draft?
Teague and Horford are really good. And Horford should have his best season yet without Josh Smith chucking.

Not to mention that they have a fuckton of cap room and will signing a bunch of people; even if they just poach some leftovers on 1 or 2 year deals.

They will make the playoffs.
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Teague and Horford are really good. And Horford should have his best season yet without Josh Smith chucking.

Not to mention that they have a fuckton of cap room and will signing a bunch of people; even if they just poach some leftover on 1 or 2 year deals.

They will make the playoffs.
The caproom yes, but it seems like the main person I hear consistent with them is Andrew Bynum. Who is still injured and some NBA execs thinking he wont go back to top level again because his knee.
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