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Old 07-21-2013, 06:51 PM    (permalink
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Reggie is the 2nd big off the bench, it's a really deep team actually. AK was expecting a sign and trade else where, his opt out didn't really involve the nets when it happened. He's the perfect 6th man as he can spell both pierce and KG. the clips just lack big man depth so badly though
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I think Indiana would beat em up. They play too physical for the Clippers, if the Pacers got a legit starting PG they would be scary.
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George Hill is a legit PG.
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Psycho talk...

Pssssh - As if Curry will let them lose in the 1st rnd.
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I'm not being sarcastic, he's a perfectly solid starting PG. I'd take his low turnover, decent efficiency, good defense approach over high assist, high turnover, horrible efficiency that Jrue Holiday has.
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I'm not being sarcastic, he's a perfectly solid starting PG. I'd take his low turnover, decent efficiency, good defense approach over high assist, high turnover, horrible efficiency that Jrue Holiday has.
And constantly forces Indiana to throw up late second bricks because he doesn't wanna initiate the offense until there's about 7 seconds on the shot clock.

I like Hill, but they can do better...and would be a much better team.
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Hill is not good enough to be a good starter on that team. For their scheme and overall talent, he's extremely underwhelming. He cannot handle the press and the offense went completely stagnant when people got in his face. And he doesn't have good enough vision, passing or dribbling ability to be considered a "good" PG. His defense isn't that good to justify his general meh-ness everywhere else.
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He does have good vision, because he's smart enough to not turn the ball over at all. He was the best PG in the league last year at not turning the ball over, that's a pretty big deal. As for their offense going stagnant, maybe it's because they don't have a lot of talented offensive players? Hibbert is balls on offense against teams that aren't the Heat.
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he didn't turn the ball over because he never tried to make any plays
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he didn't turn the ball over because he never tried to make any plays
Then why did he have the lowest turnover percentage in the league amongst starting point guards...again? It's based upon possessions of the ball.
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Then why did he have the lowest turnover percentage in the league amongst starting point guards...again? It's based upon possessions of the ball.
Bringing the ball up the court is technically possession of the ball. They can do much better Brodie.
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Then why did he have the lowest turnover percentage in the league amongst starting point guards...again? It's based upon possessions of the ball.
that literally has nothing to do with trying to make plays. He plays almost too conservative. He was nonexistant against Miami. He's a nice player, but he needs to do more to bring Indiana to the next level. His numbers are so low because he never created, or really tried, anything.
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Bringing the ball up the court is technically possession of the ball. They can do much better Brodie.
also possession doesn't equal playmaking. Or doing anything. Or the fact that it was a GOOD possession
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Then why did he have the lowest turnover percentage in the league amongst starting point guards...again? It's based upon possessions of the ball.
You missed his point. He had a ridiculously low turnover rate because he doesn't really try to create for people.
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also possession doesn't equal playmaking. Or doing anything. Or the fact that it was a GOOD possession
Ding, ding, ding.
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And what would be a realistic PG upgrade for them? Hill, as is, works for them because he doesn't take stupid risks with the ball and he helps them in their defensive based scheme. In general, if they had actually decent offensive players, it might be a bit different.
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You're making my point. They DON'T have those offensive players which is why he isn't that great a fit for them. He doesn't create or facilitate for others, and their offensive numbers are enough to show that regardless of his low turnover ratio, the Indiana offense is bad. I'd rather have a guy that'll turn over the ball a time or two more but will improve the offense points wise.
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This is basically what Brodeur says about Irving.

I don't have a point.
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You're making my point. They DON'T have those offensive players which is why he isn't that great a fit for them. He doesn't create or facilitate for others, and their offensive numbers are enough to show that regardless of his low turnover ratio, the Indiana offense is bad. I'd rather have a guy that'll turn over the ball a time or two more but will improve the offense points wise.
Well, the thing is, it's a catch 22. If you replace Hill with a better ballhandler that will take chances, the offense may get better, but the defense undoubtedly will get worse due the the number of fast break chances going up.
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