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Old 07-30-2013, 10:33 PM    (permalink
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Jennings is better than Knight at least.
Yea, I guess I don't get all the lollzzz. You mean to tell me it's a terrible move to ship off Brandon Knight for Brandon Jennings? I really fail to see how that isn't an upgrade.
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Philly is in the lead. Suns can pull ahead if they deal Dragic and start Cool Beas at PG.
Crazy thing is that it's a win-win for them if they give heavy minutes to Beas. Maybe he can shareef abdur rahim-it up and be a decent stats bad team guy. The Suns still blow horrendous amounts of dick and they can flip him for a pick from someone desperate enough to believe he can control his stupidity on the court.
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Yea, I guess I don't get all the lollzzz. You mean to tell me it's a terrible move to ship off Brandon Knight for Brandon Jennings? I really fail to see how that isn't an upgrade.
It's about adding Jennings to an already inefficient offensive squad at 8 million a year.
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Yea, I guess I don't get all the lollzzz. You mean to tell me it's a terrible move to ship off Brandon Knight for Brandon Jennings? I really fail to see how that isn't an upgrade.
Again, purgatory, plus what they might pay him. In the grand scheme of things it does absolutely nothing for them other than decrease their chance at a high lottery pick. Plus you force the two young building blocks they have to play with basketball retards.
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Yea, I guess I don't get all the lollzzz. You mean to tell me it's a terrible move to ship off Brandon Knight for Brandon Jennings? I really fail to see how that isn't an upgrade.
Knight costs $2.7 million and you can let him walk at the end of the year. They just committed $24 million to Brandon Jennings. I'd rather have Knight for 1/$2.7 (or 2/$6.2 if you don't think you can upgrade next year) than Jennings for 3/$24, even if Jennings is an upgrade.
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Contenders for what?
You have a lot more there than Lebron had when he got to Cleveland. Unless we're totally overhyping Wiggins they should have enough there with ***, Jonas, DeRozan to be right there in the East.
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Wait, people still think the lottery is rigged?
I think its too coincidental on some of the picks for it to be legit.
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You have a lot more there than Lebron had when he got to Cleveland. Unless we're totally overhyping Wiggins they should have enough there with ***, Jonas, DeRozan to be right there in the East.
Lebron wasn't even good enough right away to make a team like that a legit contender, if that's what we're expecting Wiggins to do right away we're setting him up for failure.
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Lebron wasn't even good enough right away to make a team like that a legit contender, if that's what we're expecting Wiggins to do right away we're setting him up for failure.
So it took Lebron 3 years to get to the finals, that would seem a pretty good gauge for Wiggins with a more talented supporting cast. Besides he'd have Tyler Hansbrough on his side.
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Rudy Cool and DeRozan suck and Jonas still needs a ton of development.
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So it took Lebron 3 years to get to the finals, that would seem a pretty good gauge for Wiggins with a more talented supporting cast. Besides he'd have Tyler Hansbrough on his side.
The Cavs supporting cast sucked but at least the pieces around him fit. *** and Derozan don't even fit together, much less with another swing man in the mix.
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Rudy Cool and DeRozan suck and Jonas still needs a ton of development.
Still better than the Suns or 76ers

but you don't want to be the worst team unless you're Orlando
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The NBA is ridiculously difficult to navigate.

Yes it's wiser to tank than compete for a playoff spot, but that's easy for us to say without tickets to sell or anything at stake.

So while the Pistons might never win a title with this group, they've collected some talented players and will try to coach them together, make the playoffs, and see what happens.

It's a title-less proposition but winning a title at some point in time at the expense of showing some pride with a decent product is not the only goal in pro sports - even one as polarized as basketball.

I don't hate the move.

They're DEFINITELY in contention for the playoffs.

But my team is WASHINGTON this year.
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Kinda scared to ask but... What's next?

We still have Villanueva and Stuckey's expiring deals.
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As of now 76ers need to get salary to get to the salary cap. 16 mil to be exact.
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sounds like you could use some Gortat and Dragic
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I have a question for those laughing at the Pistons (for both moves, really).

What would you have done?

You set yourself up with cap space so you can sign free agents. That's what they did - and they got arguably the best possible players they could have.
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They set themselves up with cap space and pissed all over themselves last time. They gave crippling contracts to Gordon and Villanueva and it blew up in their face nearly immediately. Clearing cap space does not mean go spend it all in one offseason. My guess is Dumars knows he is on his last life there and just threw **** at the wall to see what would stick. He won't be around to see what happens in two years.
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So, again. What should he have done?

Trotted out the same **** team as last year? Signed X, Y, and Z?

I'm not talking about the bad Gordon and V moves. Those are over and done with. I want to know what else he should have done this offseason.
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fired Dumars on the spot after signing Gordon and Villanueva
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Nothing. You don't HAVE to spend your money. They could have stood where they were, sucked another year while developing Monroe and Drummond and gotten a high pick next year. If they somehow manage to stay competitive for the 8th seed, it will take them out of the valuable picks in the draft and not taking them anywhere. Dumars is worried about his job more than the future of the team.
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Nothing. You don't HAVE to spend your money. They could have stood where they were, sucked another year while developing Monroe and Drummond and gotten a high pick next year. If they somehow manage to stay competitive for the 8th seed, it will take them out of the valuable picks in the draft and not taking them anywhere. Dumars is worried about his job more than the future of the team.
It's just not as easy as this. That's all I'm saying.

"Eh **** it - let's just suck again." Blood, sweat, and tears go into an NBA season. The players, coaches, management - the entire operation - isn't comprised of robots...

It's easy for us to say tank. But it also completely undermines the spirit of competitiveness and significance of each game as an event.
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New owner wants to sell tickets is what I gather. Maybe he wants to see if he needs to move the team to the new Red Wings arena.
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Again, purgatory, plus what they might pay him. In the grand scheme of things it does absolutely nothing for them other than decrease their chance at a high lottery pick. Plus you force the two young building blocks they have to play with basketball retards.
I thought they were in purgatory already when they got Josh Smith, if Jennings sucks as bad as everyone here thinks he shouldn't contribute much to their wins total anyway. I just never liked Knight, and honestly don't understand why Jennings gets so much hate. Every PG can't come in like Kyrie Irving or Chris Paul, if you throw a young scorer on a bad team with bad coaching and no help, he's going to develop bad habits and become a chucker.


He's very talented though and once you signed Josh Smith I don't see why you don't keep making moves. At least this one actually made some sense, Knight wasn't even a PG. Jennings may not be a pass first guy, but he's a PG and Knight has no business running an offense.
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