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Old 11-16-2013, 01:34 PM    (permalink
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Isiah Thomas over Teague. Dude is awesome.

Edit: Actually, Eric Bledsoe if you consider that improving. He's been GREAT this year.
Yeah, Idk how I neglected Bledsoe.
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I wouldn't, because Boogie probably doesn't turnover even close to as much. Dwight loses the ball like he just ate pounds and pounds of buttered popcorn before the game.
Each has averaged roughly 3 turnovers per game every year. No difference.
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Skillset wise, absolutely, but Cousins has never breached 50% shooting, and needs 5 more shots for his 22 ppg this year than Howard needed when he put up 23 ppg a few years ago. Even last year, a year everyone agrees was way below average for Howard, he averaged 17 on 58% shooting. Id take that over 22 on 48% any day.

If Cousins can improve his shot selection though, watch out, cause the dude is crazy talented, much more so than Howard when it comes to offense. But then, we've said the same thing about Josh Smith for years, and he never improved it, so who knows.
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I wouldn't, because Boogie probably doesn't turnover even close to as much. Dwight loses the ball like he just ate pounds and pounds of buttered popcorn before the game.
The turnover differential is negated a little bit because of how much Cousins fouls.

However the FG% needs to be adjusted for FT%. TS% puts Howard and Cousins almost on par due to the missed FTs from Howard and Cousins making 70%. With that said Howard still has the lead there and Howard still is better defensively.

Right now Cousins' usage rate is out of this world because no one else among the starters is able to make a shot. And I am interested to see what Cousins is able to do if he isn't the sole contributor on the starting team.
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Each has averaged roughly 3 turnovers per game every year. No difference.
Whelp, **** me then haha. Was too lazy to go check, and I just know it was so frustraiting watching him sometimes last year.
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Whelp, **** me then haha. Was too lazy to go check, and I just know it was so frustraiting watching him sometimes last year.
He's definitely frustrating sometimes. It's weird, because you check the box score after games and its like, 20 points, 15 rebounds, and 5 blocks on 7-12 shooting, and its like, "wow thats really nice", but when you watch him you just think hes capable of so much more.

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The turnover differential is negated a little bit because of how much Cousins fouls.

However the FG% needs to be adjusted for FT%. TS% puts Howard and Cousins almost on par due to the missed FTs from Howard and Cousins making 70%. With that said Howard still has the lead there and Howard still is better defensively.
Absolutely, which makes Cousins a better option late in games as well. So +1 to Boogie there. Also, he looks much better in a headband than Howard does. But honestly, comparing these two is so weird, theyre entirely different players. Dwight is great, Cousins has the chance to be great, but other than that, theres not much they have in common.

So uh... how about that Andre Drummond? He's much more comparable to Dwight. Lets talk about the greatness of Drummond :)
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He's definitely frustrating sometimes. It's weird, because you check the box score after games and its like, 20 points, 15 rebounds, and 5 blocks on 7-12 shooting, and its like, "wow thats really nice", but when you watch him you just think hes capable of so much more.



Absolutely, which makes Cousins a better option late in games as well. So +1 to Boogie there. Also, he looks much better in a headband than Howard does. But honestly, comparing these two is so weird, theyre entirely different players. Dwight is great, Cousins has the chance to be great, but other than that, theres not much they have in common.

So uh... how about that Andre Drummond? He's much more comparable to Dwight. Lets talk about the greatness of Drummond :)
That .200 FT% so OP...

LOL. But yeah, Drummond is aight.
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That .200 FT% so OP...

LOL. But yeah, Drummond is aight.
Holy Santa Claus **** I thought you were joking but he really is shooting 20% from FTs. That is pathetic even in DeAndre Jordan's book. Ha!
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Whelp, **** me then haha. Was too lazy to go check, and I just know it was so frustraiting watching him sometimes last year.
Same t.o. number but cousins' usage has to be higher.
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Same t.o. number but cousins' usage has to be higher.
Dwight has been mid 20s in usage for his whole career, Cousins mid to upper 20s up until this year, where its ballooned to 36 (!)
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The Knicks/Hawks uniform combination tonight, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Infuriating. As for what it would take to land Shump? I'd imagine that 1 of IT or Mac would need to be involved. Or a 1st rounder obviously.
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Infuriating. As for what it would take to land Shump? I'd imagine that 1 of IT or Mac would need to be involved. Or a 1st rounder obviously.
That's a tall order...
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That's a tall order...
I mean, you really have nothing else of value outside of Cousins.
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Yeah, really don't think I'd give up IT or Mac for Shump to be honest. I don't know what else would work though.

Jason Thompson+picks+cap relief?

The Kings aren't really in a good position to trade for a guy like Shumpert.

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Yeah, really don't think I'd give up IT or Mac for Shump to be honest. I don't know what else would work though.

Jason Thompson+picks+cap relief?

The Kings aren't really in a good position to trade for a guy like Shumpert.
Picks? Like, a 1st rounder? If a 1st rounder is included, I would 100% do it. Cap relief does little for the Knicks because it will be shot to hell with the Melo super max anyway.
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Well obviously the Knicks would take a lottery pick for him with this year's draft class. I don't know that anyone would give them one for Shump though.
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Well obviously the Knicks would take a lottery pick for him with this year's draft class. I don't know that anyone would give them one for Shump though.
I doubt it too. Even if it was for next year though, I jump on it. Kings will still be lotto unless they strike gold this year.
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