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Old 12-12-2013, 03:23 PM    (permalink
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NOPE. This is nothing new. You should know that. I have NEVER liked Melo. Didn't like the trade. Don't like his style. He's not as good as people try to make him seem. Simple as that.

We are not going anywhere. We won't be going anywhere anytime soon. We're old, we have no ability to make trades to improve us drastically, etc.
You'll get 2 cents on the dollar if you trade Melo. It's just a dumb idea.

Especially when we have no picks over the next 4 years. I would be all aboard this idea if we could rebuild, but we can't.

So what's the point of trading him?
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Trading him will get you lots of picks. Trade him to some team that's desperate like the Bobcats. Jordan loves Melo and is a terrible GM.
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I don't think anyone wants a rental of Melo for anything substantial. So he's not going anywhere unless he demands a trade.

As for the Raptors deal, apparently the Knicks are offering a 2018 first rounder and Artest to make salaries match. I like Lowry, so I'd be OK with it only if the pick was top 5 protected at least. Ugh.
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Rumor has it the Knicks refuse to trade the 1st in 2018.
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Great wing defenders are a premium though. Especially when your next draft pick is in 2018.
This is not true. You can't trade picks in consecutive years.

Also, Lowry is definitely not fetching a first rounder.
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dallas is really the only destination i can think of who'd have a reasonable shot at re-signing him. even then he doesn't really fit with dirk and monta. they don't really have the trade assets to pull it off in any event
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Also, trading Melo is a swell idea. If we let this season play out, it only ends 2 ways, both if them bad.

1. We sign Melo to the super max
2. We lose him for nothing
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dallas is really the only destination i can think of who'd have a reasonable shot at re-signing him. even then he doesn't really fit with dirk and monta. they don't really have the trade assets to pull it off in any event
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Would anyone honestly give anything for Melo?
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Maybe the Lakers. Pau + a protected future pick is the best possible scenario.
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Maybe the Lakers. Pau + a protected future pick is the best possible scenario.
even then they can just make him a max offer in the off-season. they probably recognize the roster as currently constructed won't contend with or without melo so why not just wait until the off-season to get him for nothing. that way they could avoid having to pay him the super max, since (i assume) his bird years come with him in any trade
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though, if the knicks would take it, something like

marion (expiring), b. wright, larkin, and one of carter/ellington + pick(s) for melo would work
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even then they can just make him a max offer in the off-season. they probably recognize the roster as currently constructed won't contend with or without melo so why not just wait until the off-season to get him for nothing. that way they could avoid having to pay him the super max, since (i assume) his bird years come with him in any trade
Ahh very true, forgot about that. Well the Knicks maybe just SOL with Melo.
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even then they can just make him a max offer in the off-season. they probably recognize the roster as currently constructed won't contend with or without melo so why not just wait until the off-season to get him for nothing. that way they could avoid having to pay him the super max, since (i assume) his bird years come with him in any trade
Yeah, but there will be competition to get Melo in free agency and whoever really wants him will have to give up more in a S&T than they'd have to give up to get him now.
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Yeah, but there will be competition to get Melo in free agency and whoever really wants him will have to give up more in a S&T than they'd have to give up to get him now.
i don't think melo would have a ton of suitors. who will have max cap room this off-season? cleveland, la, miami (if everyone jumps ship), and maybe philadelphia? i can't think of them all. there are only two places melo realistically goes and they're la and miami. unless there is a big 3 exodus, you have to think LA is the favorite
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Knicks in discussion with Raptors for Kyle Lowry lolololol

@ZachLowe_NBA: Also, the fact that we're talking about Lowry and picks from 2018 and 2020 is hilarious. It's like an Onion story.
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I want to hear BBD spin this into a positive.
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People would absolutely trade for Melo. NBA GMs are still really ******* dumb overall. He's the best 'pure scorer' in the league, brah.
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Melo is an attraction and a great player even if overrated. Trading for him isn't the worst thing in the world, especially for some of these franchises.

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I'd give up Shumpert and Hardaway for Lowry in a heartbeat. Hardaway sucks and Shumpert hates it here.

I don't understand why Reddit is going nuts over it. Losing the 2018 first would be far worse than Tim freaking Hardaway.
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I've always been a Lowry fan. I'd welcome him coming here.
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I'm half watching this game. Everytime I look up Dwight is making a great post move... I'm not sure what's going on.

And Lillard has been a GHOST. I don't know what's going on there...
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