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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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Watch his offense. It's built around post players. Can't penetrate when someone's occupying the post. Wiggins has been relegated to standing near the perimeter.
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Watch his offense. It's built around post players. Can't penetrate when someone's occupying the post. Wiggins has been relegated to standing near the perimeter.
OK...that has nothing to do with development. And it's also not even all that accurate. If he drives, he draws fouls because of the new rules and because he's Andrew ******* Wiggins. Really doesn't matter what's going on in the post.
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How would the NBA shape up if, after the division champs, all of the wild cards were a free-for-all? Good idea? Bad idea?

Right now, it'd look like this:
Eastern Playoffs:
1. Indiana v. 16. Memphis
4. Miami v. 13. Atlanta
6. Toronto v. 11. Dallas
8. Golden State v. 9. Houston

Western Playoffs
2. San Antonio v. 15. Chicago
3. Portland v. 14. Minnesota
5. Clippers v. 12. Denver
7. OKC v. 10. Phoenix

Seems a bit more fair to me, and gets a lot of the scrub teams out of the playoffs.
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OK...that has nothing to do with development. And it's also not even all that accurate. If he drives, he draws fouls because of the new rules and because he's Andrew ******* Wiggins. Really doesn't matter what's going on in the post.
How else do you expect him to develop?.. The offense stunts growth, and you know it isn't going to change even if he comes back. It's really not debatable since Giddens, Rush, Henry, and McLemore have all played in the same role, and people have similar gripes about each of them.

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Self doesn't recruit a lot of NBA swingmen. Certainly none the caliber of Wiggins.

What happened with Giddens is on Giddens. Henry left after a year and really didn't play that much in the first place. Self did everything he could to get McLemore to be more aggressive and attack the basket, but the kid simply wouldn't do it.
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Henry's actually playing pretty well now for the Lakers...not the best of examples.

Also doesn't help these kids leave WAY earlier than they should. Not in terms of stock and such, but in terms of actually being ready for the NBA
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How would the NBA shape up if, after the division champs, all of the wild cards were a free-for-all? Good idea? Bad idea?

Right now, it'd look like this:
Eastern Playoffs:
1. Indiana v. 16. Memphis
4. Miami v. 13. Atlanta
6. Toronto v. 11. Dallas
8. Golden State v. 9. Houston

Western Playoffs
2. San Antonio v. 15. Chicago
3. Portland v. 14. Minnesota
5. Clippers v. 12. Denver
7. OKC v. 10. Phoenix

Seems a bit more fair to me, and gets a lot of the scrub teams out of the playoffs.
Phoenix isn't making the playoffs without Bledsoe the only chance we have to win any games if we make 15+ 3s which is simply not realistic

Without a trade for someone like Love the Suns finish with 10 or so wins the rest of the way lets go with 35-47 for my prediction
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Do you think Bledsoe is coming back, Fenikz?
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Phoenix isn't making the playoffs without Bledsoe the only chance we have to win any games if we make 15+ 3s which is simply not realistic

Without a trade for someone like Love the Suns finish with 10 or so wins the rest of the way lets go with 35-47 for my prediction
That was just by current standings. Basically, how it works is:
3 division winners are in and are the top 3 teams in their conference bracket. Teams are added to the brackets by seed with the highest non-division winner (OKC as of now) going to the conference with the 2-seed.
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Do you think Bledsoe is coming back, Fenikz?
No I don't, I think he will be healthy enough to return but he has too much to lose in FA if he returns and re-injuries himself or even just plays poorly. If he sits out the rest of the year and is 100% by FA he will get a max contract from somebody and then the Suns will match it
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No I don't, I think he will be healthy enough to return but he has too much to lose in FA if he returns and re-injuries himself or even just plays poorly. If he sits out the rest of the year and is 100% by FA he will get a max contract from somebody and then the Suns will match it
Dragic impresses the hell out of me. Are the Suns committed to the backcourt of Bledsoe and Dragic or will they try to trade Dragic?
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I hope they keep it. Reminds me of their KJ & Ainge/Kidd days
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Is it safe to say we overhyped Wiggins? In fact, the top 4 talents in this draft, have we overhyped them all?
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Is it safe to say we overhyped Wiggins? In fact, the top 4 talents in this draft, have we overhyped them all?
Yeah, a little bit. Wiggins was insanely overhyped (I include myself in this), and nobody in this class is even close to the prospect that Anthony Davis was, for instance.
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Yeah, a little bit. Wiggins was insanely overhyped (I include myself in this), and nobody in this class is even close to the prospect that Anthony Davis was, for instance.
Do you consider any of these guys franchise caliber players?
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Dragic impresses the hell out of me. Are the Suns committed to the backcourt of Bledsoe and Dragic or will they try to trade Dragic?
it's possible they keep both, Dragic's contract is a steal and Bledsoe has the length and athleticism to guard smaller 2s
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Are we finally willing to admit that Boogie is a stud? A real bonafide stud?
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Are we finally willing to admit that Boogie is a stud? A real bonafide stud?
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I think a lot of us were holding out on opinions of him because we or I know I was trying to figure out if he was legally retardded or not.
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