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Old 02-23-2014, 09:12 AM    (permalink
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Cousins can move. He moves better than David West does. He could defend 4s. And both Embiid and him can work on or off the block. But I guess I'll concede because Metsox know the most about the team. And the Kings won't have a high enough pick most likely.
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The thing is that you don't want Cousins to work off the block. Keith Smart tried that and it killed his efficiency, mostly because it gave Boogie plenty of opportunities in the high post to shoot long jumpers and more often than not, he took them. While he can definitely hit open shots, he would get into a habit of taking contested jumpers, Melo style. Pump fake, jab step, 18 footer.. He shot like 36% from outside 10ft which is horribad when he was at over 60% inside. You basically feed into his bad tendencies when you remove him from the low post.

While his defense has been much improved this year (big shocker, a defensive minded coach taught him defense), he still tends to get into lazy stretches where he doesn't hedge properly (leans with his upper body and swipes at the ball instead of shuffling his feet), and gets lost at times with the rolling man. While it's less of an issue this year than past years, putting him full time on guys like nowitzki and bosh, who can pick n pop with the best of them, really puts him at a disadvantage and is a disservice to his skill set.

Again, I'm sure an NBA coach can figure out how to make it work, but one guy wouldn't be used properly. Both guys are naturally 5s, you'd eventually ask one of them to do things that put him at a disadvantage over other players.

We really need a true PG, if we end up without a premium pick, I would try and package that pick with IT for someone who we could play permanently at the position.
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Maybe Cousins can not turn the ball over at ridiculous rates if you get a pass first PG.
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The thing is that you don't want Cousins to work off the block. Keith Smart tried that and it killed his efficiency, mostly because it gave Boogie plenty of opportunities in the high post to shoot long jumpers and more often than not, he took them. While he can definitely hit open shots, he would get into a habit of taking contested jumpers, Melo style. Pump fake, jab step, 18 footer.. He shot like 36% from outside 10ft which is horribad when he was at over 60% inside. You basically feed into his bad tendencies when you remove him from the low post.

While his defense has been much improved this year (big shocker, a defensive minded coach taught him defense), he still tends to get into lazy stretches where he doesn't hedge properly (leans with his upper body and swipes at the ball instead of shuffling his feet), and gets lost at times with the rolling man. While it's less of an issue this year than past years, putting him full time on guys like nowitzki and bosh, who can pick n pop with the best of them, really puts him at a disadvantage and is a disservice to his skill set.

Again, I'm sure an NBA coach can figure out how to make it work, but one guy wouldn't be used properly. Both guys are naturally 5s, you'd eventually ask one of them to do things that put him at a disadvantage over other players.

We really need a true PG, if we end up without a premium pick, I would try and package that pick with IT for someone who we could play permanently at the position.
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We definitely need a pass first pg to help distribute the ball better without having to go to Cousins to create offense every single time. He could actually benefit from lower usage. I don't think it would affect his scoring at all.

I would say he could learn defense from Drummond but then he would actually get worse.
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If Andre is that bad at 23 on defense, maybe I'll complain then.
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He struggles with positioning sometimes, but he's also more of a freelance guy because he has to defend everyone. He's still only 20...Cousins would have get his **** pushed in at 20 by Al too.
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Drummond obviously has a much better defensive skillset than Cousins. He'll get there. NBA defense takes time.
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What skill set would that be? Athletic ability? Ok. NBA defense is mostly mental, not sure what you're really trying to say. He's horrible at anything other than bodying up. Yes I know he's incredibly raw and young but phrases like that have zero substance.
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What skill set would that be? Athletic ability? Ok. NBA defense is mostly mental, not sure what you're really trying to say. He's horrible at anything other than bodying up. Yes I know he's incredibly raw and young but phrases like that have zero substance.
They absolutely do. He's a natural shot blocker, he's really mobile for a big man which provides incredible flexibility in defensive schemes, you already mention he is good at bodying up, etc...

Anthony Davis was a trainwreck last year, but everyone knew he was/is going to come good on the defensive side of the ball because of his skillset. He's still struggling a bit with understanding rotations and all of the mental things, but he has clearly improved this year and will undeniably be an absolute monster on that end with the next couple years. Drummond is in a similar boat.
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He's great at playing the passing lanes too. He just needs to rotate better, which can be helped a lot if he just gets better coaching. It's okay, sometimes teams are dumb enough to take T-Rob over him.
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Two possessions in the most crucial part of the game ended horribly due to Westbrook. Ugh. I love him as a player and he's undoubtedly one of the best in the NBA but you can't ignore the fact that he just isn't a perfect fit next to KD.
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He's great at playing the passing lanes too. He just needs to rotate better, which can be helped a lot if he just gets better coaching. It's okay, sometimes teams are dumb enough to take T-Rob over him.
The days of Geoff Petrie are behind us. Your team still employs Joe Dumars.
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Is Otto Porter dead or something ?
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So the Suns Rockets game is off and the Lakers Nets will now be on.

I can't fathom the number of lakers games on tv this year.
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So the Suns Rockets game is off and the Lakers Nets will now be on.

I can't fathom the number of lakers games on tv this year.
it was originally scheduled on. then nets and lakers were butt. but now jason collins.
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