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LBJ
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Love
George

Those are the first 5 that come to mind right now. I know I'm missing someone...but those were the names I thought of.

Harden is right in there, along with Curry, Howard, and others.
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He's really not. For arguments sake, let's say both aren't good defenders. So defense is a wash.

Melo is shooting 46%, 43% from 3, 84% from the FT, 8.5 rebounds, 3 assists, 0.7 blocks per game and 28 ppg. 2nd in the league in ppg. He's having arguably the best season of his career but it's lost in the mix bc:

1. You ppl hate on Melo waaaaaaay too much on this forum.
2. Bc the Knicks suck major dick this year.

Love on the other hand:

Same fg % at 46, 38% from 3, 82% from FT, 13 rebounds per game, 4 assists, 0.4 blocks per game, and 26.6 points per game.

So like we all suspected, he is a better passer and rebounder, but less of a scorer, and ironically enough, he's a worse rim protector than Melo.

Stats wise, they're a wash for the most part, the differences btw them are negligible, but I'd argue Melo is a better defender and game closer.

Even if you disagree with my opinion, there's no way you can say he's way better when you look at it statistically. They're at the very least, very similar.

I take Melo over Love any day of the week.
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And maybe it's personal preference on my part, but I want my PF and C to play defense. They're the rim protectors, a PF who doesn't play defense is a huge liability.

You can get away with your wing or backcourt having weak defense, but if your front court is weak your team defense is going to suck.

I take Love down several notches because he's a PF who sucks on defense.
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Melo takes 22 shots per game as opposed to Love's 18. While he may average more ppg, it doesn't necessarily make him a better scorer and he's clearly less efficient. Love has a secondary skill that he happens to be the best in the world at, while Melo offers little to nothing else aside from his scoring. It's not even a question for me.
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If he was less efficient, why does he have the same FG% and a better 3 point FG%?

The numbers are close enough either way that it's essentially a wash. The only difference being Melo is a wing with mediocre defense and Love is a PF with mediocre defense.

Which in my eyes, penalizes him more.
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And lastly, if Melo and Love are essentially a statistical wash, I find it hilarious that ppl on here laugh at the notion that Melo is a top 5 player but then think Love is.

Double standard much?

Yeah, let's ignore that Love sucks on defense and is a perennial loser, but then use those same arguments against Melo.

They're either both near top 5 status or neither is. If you think Melo isn't top 5, then putting Love in your top 5 is just as comical.

I get ppl want to clown on Melo bc I kind of asked for it, but you guys are ridiculous with your agendas on here.
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You can post however many times you'd like but you can't ignore the fact that Melo has no above average secondary skill while Love has an elite secondary and above average passing skills.

Now you're just making up arguments. Id gladly have Melo in my top ten. But he's not anywhere near the value that Love is, and id take guys like Curry, George, Harden, Davis and Boogie ahead of him.
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And for all the talk of how Love is a great passer and Melo is a ball hog, Love only averages ONE assist more per game.

Yeah. Amazing passer.

It's hilarious that Melo actually averages more blocks per game than Love. That tells you how pathetic he is as a rim protector.

If Melo has 1 singular skill that he's great at, then make the same argument for Love. Don't have it both ways. It's hypocritical.
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What part can't you ******* understand about Love being the best rebounder in the NBA? Is that not a skill? Wtf
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as a wolves fan I understand the thought process behind love being overrated. Even I pretty strongly disagree with the notion that he's a top 5 player. About 50% of the time he literally doesn't even try to help defend around the rim. But he's better than Melo by a decent amount. (who is admittedly having a good season.)
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DeAndre Jordan and Dre are better rebounders, but I agree with you.
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Only Dre and Boogie have a case. Those three have a nose for the ball that no one else does. Guys like Jordan and Howard are just bigger and more athletic than everyone else and stand in the paint for 36 minutes.
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He's not. Drummond is.

And he averages 13 rebounds a game. We have 6 players who average within 1 rebound of Kevin Love.

It's not like the man gets 16 rebounds a game, he's not a rebound machine, there are several players who are close to him.

What's the difference btw 13 rpg and 12? It's basically the same ****.

And his assists per game are greatly exaggerated as he only averages 4.

And he's an awful defender at the 4. You can spin it all you want but having a 4 that sucks on defense is a huge liability.

Sorry, he's just not top 5 material. You want to argue top 10, fine. But top 5, no way in hell.
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I'm not arguing Melo for top 5, bc I don't feel he is. I'm just using him as a comparison sake to point out that there's no way you can have Love in your top 5 when Melo and Love are basically having the same season.

I'd argue Melo's season is better, but hey. Whatever.

Love is not a top 5 player in the league. If Melo's a bad contract, so is Love.
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Jordan is an amazing rebounder, don't discount it because of where/how he plays.
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Listening to your stupidity is making my head hurt already. His rebounding numbers are down because of his role in the offense, not because he isn't skilled. His rebounding average has gone down every year as his 3pa have gone up. He's arguably the best and the only other guys that can make a case are Drummond and Boogie. Melo sucks ass at everything aside from scoring, you can't even make a case for him being above average, much less elite at anything else.
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I'm not discounting it, I am simply saying that I feel the other three are better. If you put a tall athletic guy with decent instincts in the paint for an entire game, he should get you 12+ rebounds.
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You're just making excuses to justify it. Melo sucks ass at everything else. Sure. He was a MVP candidate last year.

If Love's role on offense is the reason for his numbers going down, why isn't that an excuse for Melo?

Love has better players around him too. Who the hell does Melo have right now?

You can't be a Love apologist without pointing out the same for Melo. You can't.

Love has his flaws just like Melo does. Neither is top 5. To make an argument for Love is incredibly hypocritical. Especially when Melo is having a better season.
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You're clearly too dense to understand anything I am saying so I'm no longer responding to your posts.

And it'll be cute when you try to play this off later as another lame trolling attempt when you clearly believe this to be true.
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This isn't trolling. It's fact.

Love is not nearly as good as you think he is.
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Love is as amazing. Go away BBD.
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Forenci's approval of Love should be reason enough to believe he's overrated.
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Remember when BBD loved us getting Felton? Or thought Woodson was a top 5 coach? Or thought Iman Shumpert was a star? Or thought we would crush the Pacers last year? Or thought we'd be great this year?

Oddly enough. Anything BBD thinks is good/bad automatically equates the polar opposite to be true. Use this to your advantage, people.
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