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Old 07-16-2014, 06:10 PM    (permalink
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I would think that they would slot CJ Miles in at SG. Which isn't exactly ideal either. Pacers need to do something.
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They're in some deep **** if anyone gets hurt. Right now, they're relying heavily on Donald Sloan and Solomon Hill with CJ Watson starting at PG and George Hill at SG. If they are able to maintain production with all those extra minutes, they're, miraculously a 48-win team.
they're expressing interest in Stuckey for the second guard spot. so... maybe a couple less wins.
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Does Kyrie Irving to Minnesota for Love make any sense. It's not like Lebron needs a point guard.
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they're expressing interest in Stuckey for the second guard spot. so... maybe a couple less wins.
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Does Kyrie Irving to Minnesota for Love make any sense. It's not like Lebron needs a point guard.
Kyrie, Varejao, and Thompson for Love and Rubio.

Minnesota gets a good guy back, Cleveland keeps Wiggins, gets Love and a PG that takes half as many shots and is an assist and steal machine.
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Lawd would I love that.. Kyrie would probably be blindsided.

I think management likes Kyrie more than anybody besides LeBron though.
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Lawd would I love that.. Kyrie would probably be blindsided.

I think management likes Kyrie more than anybody besides LeBron though.
That would probably be too good to be true for the Cavs. Cleveland has probably used up all their good karma for the next decade or so.
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Only reason I would love it would be less of a chance that Kyrie gets a ring.. don't even hate him but I want the continued success of Duke players not getting rings.. see what I did? Too bad Battier got a couple.
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Minnesota will never trade Rubio unless he demands out (he won't, he's asking for the max extension...he won't get it, but that's besides the point). He's a PR dream.
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Ridiculous athlete. Like, completely ridiculous. One of the best athletes I've seen come out in my lifetime. He's going to be a player and make brody look stupid.

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So what's the real answer to this tanking/lottery debate.

Just spit-balling, but obviously there's been talk of a midseason tournament, I'd assume a single-elim tourney.

Is there any way we could have a tournament decide draft slots?

Probably not. But then what's the answer.
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So what's the real answer to this tanking/lottery debate.

Just spit-balling, but obviously there's been talk of a midseason tournament, I'd assume a single-elim tourney.

Is there any way we could have a tournament decide draft slots?

Probably not. But then what's the answer.
In a perfect world that would be cool, but how hard would players try when they're playing for the chance to draft their possible replacements?
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Max? Oh boy... Article on Rubio's shooting proficiency.

http://nyloncalculus.com/2014/07/16/...r-ricky-rubio/

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I hear Miami is pursuing Bledsoe... oh oh...
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How hard would players try when they're playing for the chance to draft their possible replacements?
One of the many drawbacks I thought of obviously. Just spitballing.

The NBA needs/wants to add a tourney. The NBA needs/wants to change the draft pick system. There might be a way for those ideas to meet. Just a thought I had. I had the same thought you did when it first popped in my head.

But thinking about that point, it would have to be a very specific situation for a player to not want to have his team picking higher. Like would Dion Waiters tank on purpose if it meant his team would draft Wiggins? You'd have to be pretty diabolical and if anyone - fans/coach/owner - confirmed those suspicions it might be career suicide.

If the question is - why would they care?

1) The city/team would love players who helped them earn the pick on the court. Way moreso than a guy going out giving his heart on game #78 in a 50-loss season...

2) If the guy plans on being there, they'd likely want their team to get a higher pick because they want to win.

3) They're professionals. Why would they care when they're 20 games under .500 after the all star break? They are played to play and demonstrate value so they get another contract.

EDIT: As I write, I really don't think player commitment to the tourney would be the issue.

The real, obvious issues are

A) It would be wayyyyyy more appealing to be in that tourney than the 8 or even the 5 seed - that's a huge problem if it's simply the non-playoff teams all with a shot at the pick.

B) The better teams would most likely win that tournament, which would screw the worst teams. Hmmm. Thinking about this, though, this encourages competition and making the best possible roster every single year. Hmmmm. It's kind of like, the fringe playoff teams will add the Duncans, so the only way to get yourself out of the basement is to somehow get to THAT level rather than just blowing it all up, which is tanking and the opposite of competing. Yes, teams would likely remain in the basement way too long, but at least they'd make yearly moves to try to get better rather than wasting years and tanking.

Still doesn't fix the issue with A. Idk, I think smart NBA people could concuct something. I just HATE how there's no tournament and I really don't like 7-game series. Will never change because of $$$$$. A single elimination NBA tourney with something substantial at stake would be AMAZING. Too often do I find myself watching a playoff game and knowing in my heart that the game result really doesn't matter much. That shouldn't be the case. It never is in the NFL, or even the MLB which has 7-game series because of SPs. Basketball has always been a sport about TOURNAMENTS.

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What they gonna offer in a S&T to PHX for Bledsoe? Lol
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I hear Miami is pursuing Bledsoe... oh oh...
I have absolutely no idea why LA or someone else hasn't thrown him an offer sheet. It's the weirdest part of the entire FA season to me. Maybe Bledsoe is holding off to help PHX.
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Max? Oh boy... Article on Rubio's shooting proficiency.

http://nyloncalculus.com/2014/07/16/...r-ricky-rubio/

It starts off like this...
Yeah he won't get that. But I believe he's a RFA in the last year of his deal, and they would match absolutely anything he's offered.
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Yeah he won't get that. But I believe he's a RFA in the last year of his deal, and they would match absolutely anything he's offered.
I don't think he's worth it either, but if that's the case why wouldn't someone else offer him the max then?
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Because they also know he cant shoot...
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Because they also know he cant shoot...
But he thinks the Wolves would match it for sure.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. ....................................
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I don't think he's worth it either, but if that's the case why wouldn't someone else offer him the max then?
Well the max from another team is far less than the 5-year max you can get from resigning with your team. I believe it's a difference of like 5-123 vs. 4-88 (I could be off, that's what I currently have in my head)
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