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Old 11-23-2007, 10:15 PM    (permalink
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QB- Ben Roethlisberger/ Derek Andreson
RB- Willis McGahee/ Willie Parker
WR- Braylon Edwards/ Chad Johnson/ Hines Ward/ Derrick Mason
TE- Kellen Winslow/ Heath Miller
OT- Joe Thomas/ Levi Jones
OG- Alan Faneca/ Eric Steinbach
C- Hank Fraley/ Sean Mahan

DE- Robaire Smith/ Robert Gathers
DT- Casey Hampton/ Hagloti Ngata
OLB- Kameron Wimbley/ James Harrison
MLB-D'Qwell Jackson / Leon Williams
CB- Leigh Bodden/ Chris McCalister
FS- Ed Reed/ Anthony Smith
SS- Troy Polamalu/ Sean Jones/ Dawan Landry
K- Matt Stover / Jeff Reed
P- Daniel Sepulveda / Dave Zastudil
Ret- Josh Cribbs
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carson palmer? tj houshmanzadeh? willie anderson?
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QB: Carson Palmer
RB: Willis McGahee
FB: Lawrence Vickers
WR: Chad Johnson
WR: Braylon Edwards
TE: Kellen Winslow Jr.
OT: Levi jones
OG: Alan Faneca
C: Sean Mahan
G: Eric Steinbach
OT: Willie Anderson
For the D Im not gonna do 34 and 4-3 this is gonna be the best 4 DLs, and the 4 best LBs.

DL: Aaron Smith
DL: Kelly Gregg
DL: Haloti Ngata
DL: Robaire Smith
OLB: Clark Haggans
MLB: Ray Lewis
MLB: James Farrior
OLB: James Harrison
CB: Chris McAlister
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Troy Polamalu
CB: Leigh Bodden
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QB: Carson Palmer/Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Willis McGahee/Willie Parker(3rd down RB)
WR: Chad Johnson
WR: Braylon Edwards
WR: Hines Ward
TE: Kellen Winslow Jr.
OT: Joe Thomas
OG: Alan Faneca
C: Hank Fraley
G: Ben Grubbs
OT: Willie Anderson

3-4 Defense
DE: Haloti Ngata
DT: Kelly Gregg
DT: Casey Hampton
DE: Terrell Suggs
OLB: Kamerion Wimbley
MLB: Ray Lewis
OLB: James Harrison
CB: Chris McAlister
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Troy Polamalu
CB: Leigh Bodden
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Leigh Bodden doesn't even belong on the AFC north practice squad.
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Leigh Bodden doesn't even belong on the AFC north practice squad.
True, he does get burned alot but who else would you rather have? Leon Hall could be a possibilty....
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QB - Ben Roethlisberger
RB - Willie Parker
RB - Najeh Davenport
TE - Heath Miller
WR - Hines Ward
WR - Santonio Holmes

DE - Brett Keisel
NT - Casey Hampton
DE - Aaron Smith

OLB - James Harrison
ILB - Larry Foote
ILB - James Farrior
OLB - Clark Haggans

CB - Ike Taylor
CB - Deshea Townsend

S - Anthony Smith
S - Troy polamalu

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QB - Big Ben
QB - Carson Palmer

RB - Willis McGahee
RB - Willie Parker

TE - Kellen Winslow
TE - Heath Miller

WR - Hines Ward
WR - Braylon Edwards
WR - TJ Shoebomber
WR - Santonio Holmes

OT - Joe Thomas
OG - Alan Faneca
C - Sean Mahan
OG - Eric Steinbach
OT - Willie Anderson

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DE - Brett Keisel
NT - Casey Hampton
DE - Haloti Ngata

OLB - James Harrison
ILB - Ray Lewis
ILB - James Farrior
OLB - Kamerion Wimbley

CB - Chris McAlister
CB - Ike Taylor

FS - Ed Reed
SS - Troy Polamalu
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QB: Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Willie Parker
FB: Lawrence Vickers
WR: TJ Houshmanzadah
WR: Braylon Edwards
WR: Santonio Holmes
TE: Kellen Winslow
LT: Joe Thomas
LG: Eric Steinbach
C: Hank Fraley
RG: Ben Grubbs
RT: Willie Anderson

3-4 D
DE: Aaron Smith
NT: Casey Hampton
DE: Haloti Ngata
OLB: Kamerian Wimbley
ILB: Ray Lewis
ILB: James Farrior
OLB: James Harrison
CB: Chris McCalister
CB: Ike Taylor
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True, he does get burned alot but who else would you rather have? Leon Hall could be a possibilty....
I'd personally rather have Hall, Rolle, or Ike Taylor. Is everyone finally coming to realise that Bodden is way overrated?
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I'd personally rather have Hall, Rolle, or Ike Taylor. Is everyone finally coming to realise that Bodden is way overrated?
He wasn't overrated last year.
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Thats true. He wasn't overrated until Browns fans liked to claim that he shoudl be on the AFCN team and anyone that said anyone else should be on over him was made to look like an idiot.

Fact is there are atleast 3 corners that deserve that spot more than him. I'd probably take Townsend before him aswell.
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I'd personally rather have Hall, Rolle, or Ike Taylor. Is everyone finally coming to realise that Bodden is way overrated?
Bodden was fine when he was healthy, hes been playing with injuries pretty much all year, he looks soooooo slow.
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He has looked pretty awful this year. He not only looks slow but he has blow coverages many times this year. Hes also made some great plays but he definately isn't playing at any level about average.

Might be the injuries. That could definately slow him down atleast. We'll see how he plays as the season goes on.
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have the afc north fans noticed the progression of leon hall this year? every bengal fan that i happen to know seems to think hes still terrible. needless to say i respect you're imput more than theirs.
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He is a rookie, but every time I've seen him play, Hall has been awful.
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QB: Ben Roethlisberger/ Derek Anderson
RB: Willie Parker/ Willis McGahee
WR: TJ Houshmanzadah/ Hines Ward
WR: Braylon Edwards/ Derrick Mason
WR: Santonio Holmes/ Chad Johnson
TE: Kellen Winslow/ Todd Heap
LT: Joe Thomas
LG: Eric Steinbach
C: Hank Fraley
RG: Ben Grubbs
RT: Willie Anderson

3-4 D
DE: Aaron Smith
NT: Casey Hampton
DE: Haloti Ngata
OLB: Bart Scott
ILB: Ray Lewis
ILB: James Farrior
OLB: James Harrison
CB: Chris McCalister
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lol, you never bothered to ask me about Leon Hall.


He made some great plays this year, and I only see him improving.
He also however, was a rookie, and you could tell sometimes.

Next year he'll definitely be one to lookout for.
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offense

QB: C. Palmer/ D. Anderson
RB: W. McGahee/ J. Lewis
FB: L. Vickers
LT: J. Thomas/ L. Jones
LG: E. Steinbach
C: H. Fraley
RG: R. Tucker/ or that guy from pittsburgh?
RT: W. Anderson
WR: B. Edwards/H. Ward
WR: C. Johnson/ T.J.
TE: K.Winslow/ T. Heap

3-4 defense
RDE: C. Williams
NT: C. Hampton/H. Ngata/S. Rogers
LDE: that other guy from Pittsburgh
ROLB: K. Wimbley
ILB: R. Lewis
ILB: J. Farrior
LOLB: T. Suggs
CB: C. McAllister/ E. Wright
CB: ? ..we dont really have great coners is the AFCN
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QB - Carson Palmer
RB - Willie Parker (when healthy)
FB - Lawrence Vickers
WR - Chad Johnson (when happy)
WR - Braylon Edwards
WR - TJ Houshmenzada
TE - Kellen Winslow
LT -Joe Thomas (if Ogden retires, but regaurdless JT played better in 08)
LG - Eric Steinbach (since Faneca is gone)
OC - Hank Fraley
RG - Ben Grubbs
RT - Willie Anderson

3-4 deffense
DE - Haloti Ngata
NT - Casey Hampton
DE - Shaun Rogers
OLB - Terrell Suggs
MLB - Ray Lewis (hes going downhill)
MLB - Whatever Pittsburg guy you feel like is having a better week.
OLB - Kamerion Wimbley
CB - Chris Mccallister
CB - hard to say, but prolly Joseph or Ike Taylor
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QB: C. Palmer/ D. Anderson
RB: W. McGahee/ J. Lewis
FB: L. Vickers
LT: J. Thomas/ L. Jones
LG: E. Steinbach
C: H. Fraley
RG: R. Tucker/ or that guy from pittsburgh?
RT: W. Anderson
WR: B. Edwards/H. Ward
WR: C. Johnson/ T.J.
TE: K.Winslow/ T. Heap

3-4 defense
RDE: C. Williams
NT: C. Hampton/H. Ngata/S. Rogers
LDE: that other guy from Pittsburgh
ROLB: K. Wimbley
ILB: R. Lewis
ILB: J. Farrior
LOLB: T. Suggs
CB: C. McAllister/ E. Wright
CB: ? ..we dont really have great coners is the AFCN
FS: E. Reed
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Very hard to trust your opinion when you list Anderson above Big Ben. If you did a pole on Browns.com, 75% of our fans would say Quinn is better than Anderson let alone Ben. Ngata is a DE (Kelly Grag is there NT). Corey Williams has never played 3-4 DE in the pros, so how are you rating him top 2 in the AFC North? Prolly should take him off and put Ngata there. Just some tidbits.
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QB: Ben Roethlisberger -> Carson Palmer
RB: Willie Parker & Willis McGahee -> Mewelde Moore (3rd down back)(Dual Back system)
FB: Lawrence Vickers -> Le'Ron McClain
WR1: Chad Johnson -> Hines Ward
WR2: Braylon Edwards -> TJ Houshmanzadeh
WR3: Kellen Winslow -> Santonio Holmes
TE: Heath Miller -> Todd Heap

LT: Joe Thomas -> Marvel Smith
LG: Eric Steinbach -> Jason Brown
C: Hank Fraley -> Eric Ghuiciac
RG: Ben Grubbs -> Kendall Simmons
RT: Willie Anderson -> Marshall Yanda


RDE: Haloti Ngata -> Antwan Odom
NT: Casey Hampton -> Domata Peko
LDE: Aaron Smith -> Robaire Smith

ROLB: James Harrison -> Kamerion Wimbley
RILB: Ray Lewis -> Ahmad Brooks
LILB: James Farrior -> Odell Thurman
LOLB: LaMarr Woodley -> Robert Geathers

CB: Ike Taylor -> Chris McCallister -> Eric Wright
CB: Jonathon Joseph -> Leon Hall -> Daven Holly

FS: Ed Reed -> Anthony Smith
SS: Troy Polamalu -> Sean Jones

P: Daniel Sepulveda
K: Jeff Reed

KR/PR: Joshua Cribbs -> Yamon Figurs

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Very hard to trust your opinion when you list Anderson above Big Ben. If you did a pole on Browns.com, 75% of our fans would say Quinn is better than Anderson let alone Ben. Ngata is a DE (Kelly Grag is there NT). Corey Williams has never played 3-4 DE in the pros, so how are you rating him top 2 in the AFC North? Prolly should take him off and put Ngata there. Just some tidbits.
i put DA above Ben b/c Ben is always hurt or something.

NOBODY knows for sure if Quinn is better than DA. period.

i'm pretty sure, but i could be wrong, that Baltimore drafted Ngata to take over the NT spot at some point. thats what the browns were gonna draft him for before Romeo decided he'd rather have a pass rusher and Baltimore traded up for him.

i have williams at DE b/c no one from the bengals roster can play DE in a 3-4. i have Ngata listed as NT, and Trever Pryce is getting pretty old. I have Aaron Smith on one side, but Keisel is nothing special.
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i put DA above Ben b/c Ben is always hurt or something.

NOBODY knows for sure if Quinn is better than DA. period.

i'm pretty sure, but i could be wrong, that Baltimore drafted Ngata to take over the NT spot at some point. thats what the browns were gonna draft him for before Romeo decided he'd rather have a pass rusher and Baltimore traded up for him.

i have williams at DE b/c no one from the bengals roster can play DE in a 3-4. i have Ngata listed as NT, and Trever Pryce is getting pretty old. I have Aaron Smith on one side, but Keisel is nothing special.

Roethlesberger = 32 TD - 11 INT - 65% completion rating:102
Anderson = 29 TD - 19 INT - 56% completion rating: 82

AND Roethlesberger is allways hurt? He missed 4 games in 2004 because of an emergency apendectomy. And he didnt play in 2 games in his rookie year. The last 2 years he has missed 1 game each season, but could have played if he really needed to.



And noone from the Bengals D can play DE in a 3-4? Peko could. And also Justin Smith just signed with the 49ers to play DE in their 3-4.

You can have Ngata listed at NT all you want BUT when his team list AND plays him at DE, then I think its safe to call him a DE. Ngata is also to athletic to be a NT, thats why they kept him on the edge where he can give somewhat of a pass rush.

And I didnt say Quinn was better, I just said in a poll, fans allways vote for Quinn over Anderson in their opinions. Which counts for absolutely nothing, I just threw it out there because its true.
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Well now lets be fair here to the Ravens... he might play on the end of the D-Line.. but he is not a DE... he plays the side the Suggs plays and he is the real DE there we play a hybrid 3-4 scheme... I liken the defense to that of (basketball reference here) the defense commonly know as the "amoeba" that tark the shark used at UNLV.. because it can't be classified as anything. It develops into what ever it has to in order to stop the opposing teams offense...
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Here is my 2008-2009 All AFC North squad.....

QB: Joe Flacco
RB: Ray Rice
FB: Le'Ron McClain
WR: Justin Harper
WR: Limas Sweed
TE: Quinn Sypniewski
OT: Jared Gaither
OG: Chris Kemoeatu
C: LeCharles Bentley
RG: Ben Grubbs
RT: David Hale

DE: Robert Geathers
DT: Haloti Ngata
DT: Kelly Gregg
DE: Antwan Barnes
OLB: Keith Rivers
MLB: Prescott Burgess
OLB: Tavares Gooden
CB: Fabian Washington
CB: David Pittman
FS: Haruki Nakamura
SS: Tom Zbikowski
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