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Old 05-04-2008, 02:50 AM    (permalink
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thats pretty much laughable^
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thats pretty much laughable^
Well that was the purpose!
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QB - Carson Palmer
RB - Willis McGahee
FB - Lawrence Vickers
WR - Braylon Edwards
WR - Chad Johnson
TE - Kellen Winslow
LT - Joe Thomas
LG - Eric Steinbach
C - Eric Ghuiciac
RG - Ben Grubbs
RT - Willie Anderson

DE - Haloti Ngata
NT - Casey Hampton
DE - Aaron Smith
OLB - Terrell Suggs
ILB - Ray Lewis
ILB - James Farrior
OLB - James Harrison
CB - Chris McAlister
FS - Ed Reed
SS - Troy Polamalu
CB - Ike Taylor
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i like how no one seems to be giving any of the Bengals players any credit. the Browns do semi-decent for one year and they are instantly better? Carson Palmer is probably the best QB in the AFC-N and is much better than Derek Anderson will ever be.
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i like how no one seems to be giving any of the Bengals players any credit. the Browns do semi-decent for one year and they are instantly better? Carson Palmer is probably the best QB in the AFC-N and is much better than Derek Anderson will ever be.
Who said Anderson was better than Palmer? And can we please have that person banned please? Derek Anderson is the most overrated QB in the game, and when he falls into obscurity over the next 3 seasons, I'll be laughing the hardest.
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My real preseason All AFC North team is......

QB: Carson Palmer
RB: Willis McGahee
FB: Jeremi Johnson
WR: Chad Johnson
WR: Braylon Edwards
TE: Kellen Winslow
OT: Joe Thomas
OG: Eric Steinbach
C: Justin Hartwig
OG: Ben Grubbs
OT: Willie Anderson



4-3 Defense
DE: Robert Geathers
DT: Haloti Ngata
DT: Shaun Rogers
DE: Terrell Suggs
OLB: James Harrison
MLB: Ray Lewis
OLB: ewe this makes me sick but....Bart Scott
CB: Chris McAlister
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Troy Polamalu
CB: Deltha O'neal


3-4 Defense
DE: Trevor Pryce
DT: Casey Hampton
DE: Haloti Ngata
OLB: James Harrison
MLB: Ray Lewis
MLB: Larry Foote
OLB: Terrell Suggs
CB: Chris McAlister
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Troy Polamalu
CB: Ike Taylor
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Deltha O'Neal prolly won't even be a starter this year btw. My Preseason ALL AFC-N Team is:
QB-Carson Palmer, Big Ben
RB- Willis, Mendenhall
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR1-Braylon Edwards
WR2- TJ Houshmanzadeh
TE- Kellen Winslow, Ben Utecht
LT- Joe Thomas
LG-Eric Steinbach
OC- Eric Ghiaciuc, Justin Hartwig
RT- Willie Anderson

Stacey Andrews would probably be on my list if he had a position at this point.

DE- Robert Geathers
DT- Haloti Ngata
DT- Shaun Rogers, Casey Hampton
DE- Lamarr Woodley
OLB- Keith Rivers
MLB- Ray Lewis
OLB- Ahmad Brooks(IDK about this one)
CB1- Chris Mcallister
CB2- Jonathan Joseph
FS- Ed Reed
SS- Polamalu
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Deltha O'Neal prolly won't even be a starter this year btw. My Preseason ALL AFC-N Team is:
QB-Carson Palmer, Big Ben
RB- Willis, Mendenhall
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR1-Braylon Edwards
WR2- TJ Houshmanzadeh
TE- Kellen Winslow, Ben Utecht
LT- Joe Thomas
LG-Eric Steinbach
OC- Eric Ghiaciuc, Justin Hartwig
RT- Willie Anderson

Stacey Andrews would probably be on my list if he had a position at this point.

DE- Robert Geathers
DT- Haloti Ngata
DT- Shaun Rogers, Casey Hampton
DE- Lamarr Woodley
OLB- Keith Rivers
MLB- Ray Lewis
OLB- Ahmad Brooks(IDK about this one)
CB1- Chris Mcallister
CB2- Jonathan Joseph
FS- Ed Reed
SS- Polamalu

Well there are no other good corners in the AFC North and Samari was hurt last year so I didnt put him in my preseason all AFC North squad.
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Jury still out!
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QB: Big Ben
RB: Jamal Lewis
FB: eh who cares..... Vickers
WR: TJ
WR: Braylon Edwards
TE: Kellen Winslow
OT: Joe Thomas
OG: Eric Steinbach
C: Justin Hartwig
OG: Ben Grubbs?
OT: Willie Anderson



4-3 Defense
DE: tough one....Pryce?
DT: Haloti Ngata
DT: Shaun Rogers
DE: Terrell Suggs
OLB: James Harrison
MLB: Ray Lewis
OLB: another tough one... Wimbley?
CB: Chris McAlister
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Troy Polamalu
CB: E Wright
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Add Leon Hall/Jonathan Joseph to the "possible" list. I fully expect JJ to be one of the better corners in this division and maybe even in the whole conference.
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Deltha O'Neal prolly won't even be a starter this year btw. My Preseason ALL AFC-N Team is:
QB-Carson Palmer, Big Ben
RB- Willis, Mendenhall
FB- Jeremi Johnson
WR1-Braylon Edwards
WR2- TJ Houshmanzadeh
TE- Kellen Winslow, Ben Utecht
LT- Joe Thomas
LG-Eric Steinbach
OC- Eric Ghiaciuc, Justin Hartwig
RT- Willie Anderson

Stacey Andrews would probably be on my list if he had a position at this point.

DE- Robert Geathers
DT- Haloti Ngata
DT- Shaun Rogers, Casey Hampton
DE- Lamarr Woodley
OLB- Keith Rivers
MLB- Ray Lewis
OLB- Ahmad Brooks(IDK about this one)
CB1- Chris Mcallister
CB2- Jonathan Joseph
FS- Ed Reed
SS- Polamalu
How does Mendenhall make the team? and utecht over heap? And Jonathan Joseph?

its pretty hard to be on an all-pro team when you haven't done anything...
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all afc north is not an all pro team. Its just my guess for who will be the best players in the position this year.
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I was under the impression when you make a team, you build it with the best players. I guess if you want to get risky you can choose your "sleeper" picks, but I think you'd have a hard time arguing that your current all AFC north team is the best variation of the AFC north right now.
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ya i didn't do it like that but idk about everyone else. I picked the guys that I think either are/or will be the best players at their position in the AFCN. The Bengals homerism may be apparent but a guy like JJ is pretty much known as one of the better players at CB already and thats mainly due to the weakness at the position in this division in general.
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QB- Ben Roethlisberger(PIT) - IMO Third Best QB in the NFL
HB- Willie Parker(PIT) - Leading rusher til INJ/Willis McGahee(BAL) - Probowl
FB- Lawrence Vickers(CLE)- Can run and block
LWR- Braylon Edwards(CLE) - Best hands in Division Good Speed/Height
RWR- TJ Houshmanzadah(CIN) - Tough Guy Great Hands I hate him though
SLWR- Hines Ward(PIT) - Best Blocker of all WRs plus he's a Clutch Reciever
TE- K2(CLE)- Great Speed and Hands for a TE
LT- Joe Thomas(CLE) - Gave up only One Sack
LG- Eric Steinbech(CLE) - Just Awesome
C- Justin Hartwig(PIT) - Weak Division for Cs This guy will be Nice for PIT
RG- Kendell Simmons(PIT) - IMO better than Faneca Last Year
RT- Willie Anderson(CIN) - Great When Healthy

LDE- Aaron Smith(PIT) - Did u see what happened when he got injured
NT- Casey Hampton(PIT) - Best NT in Football (Yeah he's better than FatPat)
RDE- Haloti Ngata(BAL) - Ngata, Smith and Seymour are Top 3 3-4DEs in NFL
LOLB-LaMarr Woodley(PIT) - Great Production with 0 Starts
LILB- James Farrior(PIT) - Leader of the #1 Defense 2007
RILB- Ray Lewis(BAL) - IMO Still the Best LB in Football
ROLB-James Harrison(PIT) - Awesome last year
LCB-Ike Taylor(PIT) - Shuts down ProBowl Recievers consistantly (2nd best CB in AFC North without question!!!!!! AFC-N CBs are not as weak as you guys imply... Pittsburgh had the 3rdOVR Ranked Pass Defense with a decent passrush)
FS- Ed Reed(BAL) - Great Hands Dangerous w/the rock SMART
SS- Troy Polamalu(PIT) - Very Smart Great Hitter All-Effort
RCB- Chris McAllister(BAL) - Top-3 CB when healthy

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QB: Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Jamal Lewis
WR: Braylon Edwards
WR: Santonio Holmes
WR: TJ Houshmanzadeh
TE: Kellen Winslow
LT: Joe Thomas
LG: Eric Steinbach
C: Justin Hartwig
RG: Ben Grubbs
Rt: Adam Terry

DE: Aaron Smith
Dt: Casey Hampton
DE: Haloti Ngata
OLB: Antwan Barnes *sleeper
MLB: James Farrior
MLB: Ray Lewis
OLB: LaMarr Woodley
CB: Ike Taylor
FS: Ed Reed
SS: Troy Polamalu
CB: Fabian Washington * I see him taking Rolles spot

K: Matt Stover
P: Daniel Sepulveda

Predictions:

Pittsburgh
Cleveland
Cincinati
Baltimore

AFCN Offensive MVP: Ben Roethlisberger
AFCN Defensive MVP: Ray Lewis (I think he plays like his old days)
AFCN OROY: Rashard Mendenhall
AFCN DROY: Keith Rivers

Sleeper players to look out for:

Antwan Barnes OLB/DE Baltimore
Brandon McDonald CB Cleveland
LaMarr Woodley OLB Pittsburgh
Lawrence Timmons MLB Pittsburgh
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you know ERU, for giggles, I came here and searched the page for "Rice", and I was pleasantly surprised you put him up there. I was sort of beat to the punch, and I am shamed... touche my friend, touche
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QB - Carson Palmer
RB - Willie Parker
FB - Le'Ron McClain
WR - Chad Johnson
WR - Braylon Edwards
TE - Todd Heap
LT - Joe Thomas
LG - Eric Steinbach
C - Hank Fraley
RG - Bobbie Williams
RT - Stacy Andrews

DE - Terrell Suggs
DT - Corey Williams
DT - Casey Hampton
DE - Kamerion Whimbley
WLB - Keith Rivers
MLB - James Farrior
SLB - James Harrison
CB - Ike Taylor
CB - Chris McAlister
FS - Ed Reed
SS - Troy Polamalu
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QB - Big Ben
HB - Willie Parker/Lewis
FB - Vickers
TE - Winslow/Miller
WR - BE
WR - COC
WR - TJ
LT - JT
LG - Stein
C - Fraley
RG - Grubbs
RT - Willie

Running my variation of a 4-3 defense...

DE - Wimbley
DT - Ngata
DT - Rogers
DE - T. Suggs
OLB - Harrison
MLB - Ray Ray
OLB - Bart Scott
CB - McCalister
FS - Reed
SS - Polamalu
CB - Ike Taylor

KR - Cribbs
K - Dawson
P - Sepulvada if healthy.

Quite a bit of Miami Hurricanes on that team.
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Rodgers over Hampton

Good no Steeler O-linemen deserves to be on that list, last year everyone had Mahan hahaaha.

Would Suggs just be a stand up rusher.

No one from the Bungles ended up on D.

WR set is pretty nasty
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QB Ben Roethlisberger
RB Jamal Lewis
FB Lawrence Vickers
WR Chad Johnson
WR Braylon Edwards
TE Kellen Winslow
LT Joe Thomas
LG Eric Steinbach
C Justin Hartwig
RG Ben Grubbs
RT Stacy Andrews

DE Haloti Ngata
NT Casey Hampton
DE Aaron Smith
OLB James Harrison
ILB James Farrior
ILB Ray Lewis
OLB Terrell Suggs
CB Chris McAllister
CB Ike Taylor
FS Ed Reed
SS Troy Polamalu
K Matt Stover
P Daniel Sepulveda
LS Ryan Pontbriand
KR Joshua Cribbs

Steelers - 9
Browns - 8
Ravens - 7
Bengals - 2
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My Week 5 AFCN List:

I'm writing this up as if we have to field a team to take on other divisions best team. I will knock guys for inconsistency and Attitude.

QB: Ben Roethlisberger -> Joe Flacco
Ben's been Struggling for lack of help from the Oline AND a severe lack of creativity from the OC spot. Arians is terrible. Flacco is the young incumbent sitting in the wings.
RB: Willie Parker -> LeRon McClain -> Mewelde Moore
Willis McGahee is a talented back but Parker has been better for 2 years straight now. His speed, and tenacity added with McClains Earl Campbell-esque Running would make this a very potent 2-punch. Mewelde Moore is one of the best Pass catchers out of the backfield, a reliable 5 carry guy and an excellent blitz pickup guy. Basically your prototypical 3rd down RB.
FB: Lawrence Vickers -> Sean McHugh(Yeah it's a bit early, but watch you'll see)


WR1: Santonio Holmes -> TJ Houshmanzadeh
WR2: Derrick Mason -> Braylon Edwards
WR3: Hines Ward -> Demetrius Williams
I want Receivers that can catch, be consistent and no attitude problems. Hence the prevalent lack of Ocho Something. I'm iffy on Edwards Hands but He's the best option. Holmes Speed and big play threat, added with Mason/Wards ability to find holes in any zone coverage and make undoubtedly any catch possible is why they have there. I believe Ward is superior to Mason, but I like Ward playing from the Slot. Add Mason, Holmes and Wards Run blocking which is unparalleled in the league. Housh is a guy that could compete for #1. He doesn't quit, but he can be rattled. Edwards is too streaky to be a starter for me. I want the WR's to be reliable.. He's not at this point. Demetrius Williams may not be everyones choice for the backup slot WR, but he can find an opening has extremely good and deceptive speed and is an excellent receiver.
TE: Heath Miller -> Kellen Winslow
I figure I'll catch the most **** for this one. Winslow is an excellent receiver and a mismatch for any team. Which is why I'd be using him split out as a 4th WR. He's not a blocker. He's not afraid to get his clothes dirty and try to block, but that doesn't mean he's great at it. Meanwhile Heath Miller is an excellent Blocker and a guy that can be a consistent threat over the middle of the field for 8-12 yards a pop. I'd still be cycling Winslow in at the #3 Slot. The 2nd great thing about Sean McHugh (FB) is he is a TE as well. Solid no **** blocker too.

LT: Joe Thomas -> Levi Jones
LG: Eric Steinbach -> Ben Grubbs
C: Hank Fraley -> Justin Hartwig
RG: Willie Colon -> Chris Kemoeatu
RT: Jared Gaither -> Kevin Shaffer
I don't think there's much to complain about here. In fact that line is amazing. Center could be upgraded but, I don't think many other Divisions could field superior OL's. Only one I can think of is NFCEast between Dallas/Philly and Was. NYG has a good line, not a great one.

For Defense I'm using a 3-4 Hybrid Alignment. Don't be discouraged if your favorite player or someone doesn't make it.

RDE: Haloti Ngata -> Brett Keisel -> Shaun Rogers
NT: Casey Hampton -> Kelly Gregg -> Shaun Rogers
LDE: Aaron Smith -> Trevor Price -> Shaun Rogers

ROLB: James Harrison -> Terrell Suggs
RILB: Ray Lewis -> Lawrence Timmons
LILB: James Farrior -> Larry Foote
LOLB: LaMarr Woodley -> Robert Geathers

CB: Chris McCallister -> Ike Taylor -> Eric Wright
CB: Bryant McFadden -> Jonathon Joseph

FS: Ed Reed -> Ryan Clark
SS: Troy Polamalu -> Sean Jones

PR: Joshua Cribbs
KR: Joshua Cribbs

P: Sam Koch (Was a toss up between Sep and Koch and Sep is injured)
K: Jeff Reed
I'm expecting some retaliation for Jeff Reed over Matt Stover, but it won't change my mind. Stover loses for 2 things in this battle. 1) Jeff Reed has been Money the last 2 years and still getting better. 2) he has cooler hair.
HC: Mike Tomlin
OC: Cam Cameron ASST: Bob Bratkowski
DC: Dick Lebeau ASST:Rex Ryan
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