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Old 11-14-2007, 01:47 PM    (permalink
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Tampa Bay: 5-5
New Orleans: 5-5
Atlanta Falcons 4-6
Carolina Panthers 4-6

Wow...this division is going to be a LOT of fun to watch the rest of the way.

That's my prediction of how it ends up...may even be more fun if the Panthers can knock off the Packers...and make 3 teams at 5-5 and the Falcons still climbing at 4-6. Houston can cause a lot of problems for New Orleans, simply because their front 7 getting pressure on Brees. But their offense is capable of making the New Orleans Saint's defense looking like world beaters...
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Bucs are 5-4
Saints and Panthers are 4-5
Falcons are 3-6 (I think)
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:59 PM    (permalink
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Might want to READ what it says...and I quote "That's my prediction..."
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Atlanta is not going to beat Tampa.

First of all, Atlanta doesn't have a defense.
Secondly, we have one of the best pass defenses in the NFL, 6th best scoring defense.
Thirdly, Byron Leftwich is your starting QB.
Fourth, your offenisve line blows, ours is awesome and I will go nuts if Davin Joseph isn't a pro bowler.

Only thing working in Atlanta's favor is that they are at home, but I expect Tampa to dominate in the running game in this matchup, both offensively and defensively.

Tampa: 6-4
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:55 PM    (permalink
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Atlanta is not going to beat Tampa.

First of all, Atlanta doesn't have a defense.
Secondly, we have one of the best pass defenses in the NFL, 6th best scoring defense.
Thirdly, Byron Leftwich is your starting QB.
Fourth, your offenisve line blows, ours is awesome and I will go nuts if Davin Joseph isn't a pro bowler.

Only thing working in Atlanta's favor is that they are at home, but I expect Tampa to dominate in the running game in this matchup, both offensively and defensively.
First of all, Atlanta leads the NFC in turnover differential (hrmm...wonder who gets those turnovers?) Atlanta's defense allowed 11 points average in the last 2 games, against offenses that aren't missing their only REAL running back.

Secondly, your pass defense is no better than those we've faced to this point in the season and you're not going to stop the high percentage passes we've been throwing all season.

Thirdly, Joey Harrington is our starting QB as of right now...

Fourth, Your pass rush is lackluster at best...you have no Pro Bowl DEs coming after QBs...we have John Abraham...we have Rod Coleman. Our offensive line the has been coming together, and Blalock is locking in, now that Weiner is healthy you can count 1 of your DEs as not being on the field.

Fifth...the Falcons are at home, a place that even though they haven't been great overall have done pretty well in.

Sixth...Warrick Dunn is going to break the 10k yard mark against the team that drafted him. We're sticking with the run and being successful the last 2 weeks.

Seventh...Our corners can boast that even with a lackluster corps last season that your BIG threat receiver had what 1 catch against us last SEASON? Yeah...Joey may as well fake an injury. Outside of that Houston stepped up and is seeing the game slow down for him so your passing attack won't be getting any big plays. Garcia makes good reads and we won't be getting a lot of turnovers from INTs, but you won't either.

This is going to be a fun game to watch, especially with people like you out there who think your team has no holes, when it's full of them. Especially with some of the injuries you guys are facing. We have had trouble there as well losing 2 tackles for the season.

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First of all, Atlanta leads the NFC in turnover differential (hrmm...wonder who gets those turnovers?) Atlanta's defense allowed 11 points average in the last 2 games, against offenses that aren't missing their only REAL running back.

Secondly, your pass defense is no better than those we've faced to this point in the season and you're not going to stop the high percentage passes we've been throwing all season.

Thirdly, Joey Harrington is our starting QB as of right now...

Fourth, Your pass rush is lackluster at best...you have no Pro Bowl DEs coming after QBs...we have John Abraham...we have Rod Coleman. Our offensive line the has been coming together, and Blalock is locking in, now that Weiner is healthy you can count 1 of your DEs as not being on the field.

Fifth...the Falcons are at home, a place that even though they haven't been great overall have done pretty well in.

Sixth...Warrick Dunn is going to break the 10k yard mark against the team that drafted him. We're sticking with the run and being successful the last 2 weeks.

Seventh...Our corners can boast that even with a lackluster corps last season that your BIG threat receiver had what 1 catch against us last SEASON? Yeah...Joey may as well fake an injury. Outside of that Houston stepped up and is seeing the game slow down for him so your passing attack won't be getting any big plays. Garcia makes good reads and we won't be getting a lot of turnovers from INTs, but you won't either.

This is going to be a fun game to watch, especially with people like you out there who think your team has no holes, when it's full of them. Especially with some of the injuries you guys are facing. We have had trouble there as well losing 2 tackles for the season.

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you shouldnt either, with how the bucs did against the cards.

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Alright, sig bet, whoever wants in on this lets set parameters. I'm up for whatever...wear the opposing team's sig (designer's choice) until the next matchup...
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LOL this is hilarious. Atlanta might be at home, but provided Jeff Garcia plays and has minimal errors, the Buccaneers will come out with the win.
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Leftwich will be starting.
This isn't known yet. Simply because we don't know how his ankle is going to hold up throughout practice. If he's going to be out there, WOOHOOO...then we can open up Roddy and Laurent to run beyond your pathetic Cover2 corners who couldn't run with them with sprained ankles.
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Secondly, your pass defense is no better than those we've faced to this point in the season and you're not going to stop the high percentage passes we've been throwing all season.
Wrong. Considering the Buc's have the #3 pass defense in the league, and you haven't played the Colts or Steelers, this is the best pass defense you have faced so far.

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Thirdly, Joey Harrington is our starting QB as of right now...
Does it really matter who is at QB??

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Fourth, Your pass rush is lackluster at best...you have no Pro Bowl DEs coming after QBs...we have John Abraham...we have Rod Coleman. Our offensive line the has been coming together, and Blalock is locking in, now that Weiner is healthy you can count 1 of your DEs as not being on the field.
You have a decent Defensive line, no doubt about it, but the Buccaneers pass rush has not been 'lackluster at best'. It may have started the year relatively poorly, but it has improved week by week. Combine that with a great pass defense and the only way teams can beat the buc's is by running it straight down our throats; which is coincidentally probably the Falcons best chance of winning. It is the Buccaneers rush defense, not the pass defense, which the the Defensive Lines Achilles Heel.

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Fifth...the Falcons are at home, a place that even though they haven't been great overall have done pretty well in.
If you call .500 at home "pretty well".

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Sixth...Warrick Dunn is going to break the 10k yard mark against the team that drafted him. We're sticking with the run and being successful the last 2 weeks.
Warrick Dunn's 3.3 YPC average is really going to hurt the Bucs. Even the Buc's who are missing their "REAL" RB have Earnest Graham rushing for 3.9 YPC, which is .6 more than Warrick Dunn. But maybe Jerious Norwood will have a better chance at rushing the ball. It's beyond me why he isn't getting more carries other than the fact that he isn't the greatest pass blocker.

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Seventh...Our corners can boast that even with a lackluster corps last season that your BIG threat receiver had what 1 catch against us last SEASON? Yeah...Joey may as well fake an injury. Outside of that Houston stepped up and is seeing the game slow down for him so your passing attack won't be getting any big plays. Garcia makes good reads and we won't be getting a lot of turnovers from INTs, but you won't either.
Your arguments are relatively flawed. "Joey may as well fake an injury"?? What is that? You may have shut him down in previous years but Bruce Gradkowski/Chris Simms/Tim Rattay aren't our QB's this year.
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One of you says #3 one says #6...guess what, doesn't matter...we don't throw for a lot of yards to win.
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i'm in for the bet.

enough with the jawing. we'll see what happens on sunday. on a sidenote, i predict jamaal anderson's first sack to come in this game.
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One of you says #3 one says #6...guess what, doesn't matter...we don't throw for a lot of yards to win.
You don't win a lot either :D
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You don't win a lot either :D
Oh yeah...I forgot you guys are tearing the world up right now with your 9-0 record...
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First of all, Atlanta leads the NFC in turnover differential (hrmm...wonder who gets those turnovers?) Atlanta's defense allowed 11 points average in the last 2 games, against offenses that aren't missing their only REAL running back.
Only REAL runningback? Caddy averaged 54 yards a game, Graham is averaging 52. 74 since becoming the starting back, which is better than Caddy was posting. And Graham can catch the ball. But I guess since you don't know of him, he's not playing well right now......

Oh, and our defense is #4 in the NFL in scoring defense for the ENTIRE season. But your little two game run is nice, I guess. :D

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Secondly, your pass defense is no better than those we've faced to this point in the season and you're not going to stop the high percentage passes we've been throwing all season.
Yeah, you're not kidding. As shown by the 0 TDs and 3 INTs the Falcons have to show against other top 10 pass defenses. And the 46% (so high!) completion percentage. And the 162 pass yards a game. Hehe...

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Fourth, Your pass rush is lackluster at best...you have no Pro Bowl DEs coming after QBs...we have John Abraham...we have Rod Coleman. Our offensive line the has been coming together, and Blalock is locking in, now that Weiner is healthy you can count 1 of your DEs as not being on the field.
We've done without a great pass rush with great coverage behind it. And unfortunately Justin Blalock isn't going to help you much with Barrett Ruud, Cato June, P-Buc, Tanard Jackson, etc dropping back.

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Fifth...the Falcons are at home, a place that even though they haven't been great overall have done pretty well in.
Only because you barely squeaked out a win against the worst team in the NFC without their only source of offense.

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One dimensional against a top 5 defense, good strategy.

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Seventh...Our corners can boast that even with a lackluster corps last season that your BIG threat receiver had what 1 catch against us last SEASON? Yeah...Joey may as well fake an injury. Outside of that Houston stepped up and is seeing the game slow down for him so your passing attack won't be getting any big plays. Garcia makes good reads and we won't be getting a lot of turnovers from INTs, but you won't either.
You can blame that on Bruce Bruce and his terrible accuracy deep. Worst deep ball in the NFL. With Garcia, not only is Galloway doing better, but he's got a partner in crime in the reliable Ike Hilliard (who is obliterating any #2 option in ATL in production).

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This is going to be a fun game to watch, especially with people like you out there who think your team has no holes, when it's full of them. Especially with some of the injuries you guys are facing. We have had trouble there as well losing 2 tackles for the season.
Our team has holes. John Wade sucks, our TEs are inconsistent, our play calling is suspect, our pass rush is lacking, and our special teams are shaky at times. But at the same time, Atlanta has even more holes. But thats to be expected without your starting QB, and under a 1st year coach.
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Oh yeah...I forgot you guys are tearing the world up right now with your 9-0 record...
Last I checked, 5-4 was a lot better than 3-6.
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Last I checked 5-4 isn't THAT much better than 3-6 especially considering where the teams were 2 weeks ago...with the 1-6 transformed into a different team that learned how to finish and isn't giving up easy yards at the end of games allowing teams to get back in it in the 4th Quarter.

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Last I checked 5-4 isn't THAT much better than 3-6 especially considering where the teams were 2 weeks ago...with the 1-6 transformed into a different team that learned how to finish and isn't giving up easy yards at the end of games allowing teams to get back in it in the 4th Quarter.

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"Last I checked"? I don't know what criteria you are using for "THAT much better", but 2 wins after 9 games is quite a decent amount.
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No...actually it's not. The NFC South is the only division in FOOTBALL where first and last place are separated by only 2 games...only one...look around for yourself.

Oh, and as far as our defense goes...another little tid bit...we're only allowing a 33% conversion rate on 3rd downs...that's #3 in the league in getting off the field. Which is what is truly important...oh and we're #1 in the NFC in turnover differential, I know I mentioned that already, but it just further adds to our defense's ability to get off the field.

So...#3 vs #16 in 3rd down conversion percentage.
(Green Bay and New England are the only 2 teams ahead of us)

You going to get in on the sig bet or are you afraid? I mean I can understand if you don't want to, but at least 1 bucs fan is going to back up what he thinks...winning is contagious, teams go on streaks because they figure out how to win, and with as many young guys as we had on the field, and being able to stay that close in games but just having not figured out how to win until the last 2 close games we pulled out...we'll just see on Sunday, but at least have some fun with it.
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With all these great statistics you would think the Falcons would be a great team wouldn't you?

Why would I want to join the sig bet? The Buc's have their representative already in Chucky. I'd rather play it safe and keep my current sig. I'm not saying the Falcons can't win, it's the NFL and everyone has a chance on a given day. I'm just saying it is more likely that the Buc's get the win.
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I'll be in for the sig bet. What do you have in mind?
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