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[thule]

Originally Posted by SweatThePipe

How bout this?

1(a) Felix Jones RB
1(b) Adarius Bowman WR
2 Tracy Porter CB
3 Justin King CB
4 Andrew Bain OG

I like the potential here

Neither corner fit Wade's style

[cowboysforever]

Originally Posted by thule

Neither corner fit Wade's style

Not many do.

Strong, Quick, 6'2, 4.35 is not a common combination.

Sometimes you take a smaller guy and hope they develop the strength to do it. (**assuming they have the speed to being with)

[thule]

Originally Posted by cowboysforever

Not many do.

Strong, Quick, 6'2, 4.35 is not a common combination.

Sometimes you take a smaller guy and hope they develop the strength to do it. (**assuming they have the speed to being with)

Well when we cu Aaron Glenn I really felt that is how important size is to wade and his scheme. So I think he'd take a person like Flowers who has the size but only boarderline 4.4 speed over a guy like Porter who should run well but is definitely a finesse corner.

[cowboysforever]

Originally Posted by thule

Well when we cu Aaron Glenn I really felt that is how important size is to wade and his scheme. So I think he'd take a person like Flowers who has the size but only boarderline 4.4 speed over a guy like Porter who should run well but is definitely a finesse corner.

I agree but think you need a small, fast twitch guy to cover the Wes Welker's of this world.

[thule]

Originally Posted by cowboysforever

I agree but think you need a small, fast twitch guy to cover the Wes Welker's of this world.

Newman has excelled against this type of WR...the Steve Smith type WR's...I'm not to worried...Aaron Glenn could cover those guys all day...but in todays NFL teams just don't put a CB on a WR and tell them to go...this is what we did when teams try to man up on TO...we move him around and make it impossible for a team to follow him with just one guy...so I don't buy this.

[cowboysforever]

Originally Posted by thule

Newman has excelled against this type of WR...the Steve Smith type WR's...I'm not to worried...Aaron Glenn could cover those guys all day...but in todays NFL teams just don't put a CB on a WR and tell them to go...this is what we did when teams try to man up on TO...we move him around and make it impossible for a team to follow him with just one guy...so I don't buy this.

I think you are simplifying my comment a bit much. So neither is buying the other I guess.

Regardless of team or movement by the O, covering the slot requires elite quickness more than elite speed. Last I checked every team needs 1 or even 2 guys who can do this.

Baltimore, who did a great job on Welker, did it with Cory Ivy. All 5'8 180lbs of Ivy. Ivy played physical but is also quick. It worked very nicely.

To say "A CB does not fit Wade's system" is simply not reconciling with the reality that given the spread formations teams run you need really quick guys to cover the underneath stuff who can tackle. Not saying you don't need two Cromartie type guys to cover those big 6'4 WRs but to extend this to all 5 CB need to be "Cromartie like" is both impossbile (*How many elite 6'2 corners are there???) and bad player personnel bad design (*Even if elite at 6'2 -- do you really match up versus these slot guys like a Welker??).

If composing a DB backfield in today's game for WP, I would mix in 1 or 2 smaller "world class quick" guys to cover the junk underneath while getting the three "press capable" CBs to cover the 2 WRs plus slide over to play Free Safety.

So to me, you need both types of CB to play in the NFL right now. The one template "WP wants big" is just not right IMHO.

TNew, to me, is a tweener but I think he is much better with smaller receivers. I think he covers Steve Smith much better than a Randy Moss. If we could get a "Cromartie type" guy and have a rotation of Reeves, Newman (cover quicker guys) Henry and Unnamed (cover bigger guys) I think you have balance and flexibility in D design.

Starters are Newman/Unknow/Hamlin and Watkins
Bench = Henry, Reeves, Roy Williams and Courtney Brown

As 12, 21, 02, 01, 22 packages are introduced you design player packages to meet those demands and then mix in Cover 0/1/2/3/4, Full Man, Full ZOne, etc..

But ack, I hate this stuff....... you get the idea.

[DMWSackMachine]

Btw, Jerry said on the radio the other day that Flozell is a high-priority re-sign guy. That means that unless something far-fetched happens, like a team giving him 10m per season for 4 years, then Flo will be back next year.

Personally, I am happy enough with how he has played this year that I don't want to see him go, so I'm cool with it. That all said, if he comes in and is a lazy ass next year because he got that last big contract, I will be screaming bloody murder at JJ. :P

To me, though, our future at LT is in good hands. Between McQ and Free, there is a PB LT in there somewhere. To this day I have never heard BP rave about someone like he did about McQ. Don't know about you guys, but that carries a ton of weight with me.