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Old 12-09-2007, 09:00 PM    (permalink
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All I want is for people to give the Vikings absolutely no credit. Just keep on doing that, and I will be happy.
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All I want is for people to give the Vikings absolutely no credit. Just keep on doing that, and I will be happy.
Too late. Peterson may have had only 3 yards on 14 carries against the 49ers, but the Vikes are the hottest team around. Might wanna get used to it.
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All I want is for people to give the Vikings absolutely no credit. Just keep on doing that, and I will be happy.
Ever since the Packers game they have been a totally different team and their run offense/defense has been spectacular, but they will run into problems with teams like Green Bay, again, because they will struggle to run the football and will force Tavaris Jackson to make plays with his arm.
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All I want is for people to give the Vikings absolutely no credit. Just keep on doing that, and I will be happy.
That's funny because you've been bitching about the Vikings more than anyone all season. I actually tried to convince you that the Vikings weren't as bad as you thought they were and you would have none of it.

The 180 that Vikings fans have done from "we're terrible, Jackson sucks, Childress sucks" to "we don't get any respect" is ridiculous.
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I've been a fan of Jackson for a while, and I said a long time ago that I didn't think the vikings would draft a QB in the 1st...

I just thought I'd throw that out there.
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That's funny because you've been bitching about the Vikings more than anyone all season. I actually tried to convince you that the Vikings weren't as bad as you thought they were and you would have none of it.

The 180 that Vikings fans have done from "we're terrible, Jackson sucks, Childress sucks" to "we don't get any respect" is ridiculous.
Same case with Packers fans. It's funny because I have been at the University of Minnesota since the beginning of the season and it was funny to see the progression of Packers fans coming out to support the team once they began winning. Hopefully they don't hurt themselves when they decide to jump off the bandwagon.
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I've been a fan of Jackson for a while, and I said a long time ago that I didn't think the vikings would draft a QB in the 1st...

I just thought I'd throw that out there.
I think that is a feeling for alot of people outside the Vikings fan base. The fact that he is only in his 2nd season and he didn't play big time college football and he has progressed well, especially this season, shows that he has the ability and he only needs to be given the time.
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That's funny because you've been bitching about the Vikings more than anyone all season. I actually tried to convince you that the Vikings weren't as bad as you thought they were and you would have none of it.

The 180 that Vikings fans have done from "we're terrible, Jackson sucks, Childress sucks" to "we don't get any respect" is ridiculous.
No kidding. Whatever happened to the, "The Vikings are the only team in the NFC North with nothing to look forward to" crap.
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Things change. I'm sure Browns fans weren't very optimistic about their season coming into this year, but now they deserve some respect.
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Things change. I'm sure Browns fans weren't very optimistic about their season coming into this year, but now they deserve some respect.
Yes the team and loyal fans deserve the respect
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That's funny because you've been bitching about the Vikings more than anyone all season. I actually tried to convince you that the Vikings weren't as bad as you thought they were and you would have none of it.

The 180 that Vikings fans have done from "we're terrible, Jackson sucks, Childress sucks" to "we don't get any respect" is ridiculous.
haha don't mix up EJ99 as the rest of us. He's kind of (in)famous within the vikings discussion for bitching all the time. I remember that one time he said "I wish we wouldn't have won that game" or something because he didn't want to be optimistic and let down so badly. I told him to shut up and got + repped. But he's coming around, he doesn't deride Jackson and Chilly that much anymore.

I will say I was all for chilly's firing, and I have said tjack sucks. But I never said we shouldn't give him his fair chance to prove himself, and I'm thankful we did.
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That's funny because you've been bitching about the Vikings more than anyone all season. I actually tried to convince you that the Vikings weren't as bad as you thought they were and you would have none of it.

The 180 that Vikings fans have done from "we're terrible, Jackson sucks, Childress sucks" to "we don't get any respect" is ridiculous.
What am I supposed to say? I know I bitched a lot, but I was not the only Vikings fan complaining at the beginning of the season.
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For the record I still think Tavaris is a piece of trash. I've always thought the Vikings would win in spite of him, not because of him.

But he's 24, so there's room for growth yet.
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How many Packers fans thought they would start the season 4-0 (with wins against the Eagles, Giants and Chargers) and would be 11-2 at this point? How many Bears fans thought they'd be last in the NFC North 14 weeks into the season? Not many.

Winning/losing changes things. It's understandable for Vikings' fans to be more supportive now than earlier in the season.
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How many Packers fans thought they would start the season 4-0 (with wins against the Eagles, Giants and Chargers) and would be 11-2 at this point? How many Bears fans thought they'd be last in the NFC North 14 weeks into the season? Not many.

Winning/losing changes things. It's understandable for Vikings' fans to be more supportive now than earlier in the season.
Of course it is, but by the same token, it's ridiculous to then complain about people talking down on the Vikings when they've been doing it all season long. The # of people that were saying "I think we'll make the playoffs this year" before the season started were pretty slim. I know because I had the Vikings at #17 in my mock before the season started and people said I was crazy. Turns out they did even better than I thought (I said 8-8)

To use the Bears example, some people like to put in their sigs things that I've said about the Bears before the seaon started. Well yeah they are questionable now but when they were said most people thought the same things.
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you know... i'd much rather see people admit that their team is **** when it is then have them be blindly faithful to it. Packer fans are the kings of blind faith.
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Ill admit I figured we would do terrible this year. I thought in the beginning of the year we had a better chance to start off 4-0 and get to a good start which we didn't. I would have never thought we are doing it on the back end of the schedule. Ill also admitted that I wanted Childress fired and i said i wanted Tarvaris Benched.

I think it someone on here said it best that Tarvaris Jackson changed after that Packers game. In this where Vikings fans started to believe in the team again. Even if we go 8-8 and dont make the playoffs..Ill still be happy with this season. Its an Improvement from last season and exceeded my expectations. I figured we would be 6-10 or 5-11. Of course I want us to make the playoffs and hopefully beat either the Bucs or Seahawks.

Pretty much some of you guys are saying we cant be down and mad when we are losing and bitching but when we turn it around and we are winning we can be happy and excited for the Vikings. But it seems to be alright if your team starts out good and your all excited and happy but then you star losing and your whining and upset.

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Pretty much some of you guys are saying we cant be down and mad when we are losing and bitching but when we turn it around and we are winning we can be happy and excited for the Vikings. But it seems to be alright if your team starts out good and your all excited and happy but then you star losing and your whining and upset.
Not at all. In fact nobody said that. What I said was that you can't be bitching all year and then complain when fans of OTHER teams don't give your team the respect you think it deserves. It'd be different if most of you were saying the Vikings would be great and people were giving you **** for it. The fact is, as you said, most of you had no confidence in your team at all, so it seems very disigenuous to complain about it now.
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Yes, I'll admit it was me complaining about it, it's right at the top of the page. I just get pissed when those Packers fans are always talking **** like that, and it's not all Packers fans, just a select few.
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When your team comes out and looks pathetic week after week, it's understandable to think that something needs to change. But, when your team starts to click and dominates other teams... and is in the playoff hunt... I can see why the mindset would change. They wanted a change when things weren't working... now that they're working, a change isn't really needed (yet).
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good luck in the playoffs, it going to take a miracle to get the Cardinals healthy enough to win out
They play the Rams, thats a win before u even take the field.
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:16 PM    (permalink
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I actually called this a few weeks ago, after the Chargers win. I've been pretty high on the Vikings and Chiefs all year. The Chiefs turned out to be a bit of a dissapointment, in large part due to injuries and incompetent QB play, but the Vikings are reaffirming the simple notion that if you run the ball, and you stop the run, you have the ability to beat anyone.
Well, the team also has to hold onto the ball. The Vikings have done that for a while now.

And they've been scoring more offensive touchdowns, if you kick field goals and run/stop the run you can still lose, that was common last year (and a lot of turnovers).

Jackson has 4 TD and 2 INT since week 9.
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ap isnt scared...hes pissed....you guys put a bounty out on hi, if we meet in the playoffs he'll probably run for 300 yards on the pack :)
no we said we'd keep him under 100 yards, not knock him out
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