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Old 01-02-2008, 08:10 PM    (permalink
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My choice is Ron Rivera or Mike Singletary if possible. I think those two guys would be best bet.
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Singletary in a heartbeat but I doubt he'd take it.

No to Rivera because of his Cover 2 setup, nothing we're set up to do or should do... I don't think he's that great anyway.

If Rex Ryan doesn't take a HC job somewhere he is a MUST. Don't care what the cost, our players have seen his defenses and I love the different setups he uses.

Other than that I really don't have anyone I favor, it'll be more of a wait and see then learn about them after hired unless some more are rumored.
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I doubt Mike Singletary is starting the next season not as a HC
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I think Singeltary is an assistant HC? Therefore, he can only move to the HC job.
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Im just assuming Ryan is gonna be tied up as a HC either in Baltimore or elsewhere. But yeah if he isnt, we need to pursue him like no other. I will write letters to the man if I have to
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yeah but he is also in SF. No offense because I am a fan of theirs. Maybe not a fan but respect them because we cant beat them in a super bowl. But they are a long ways out and the Bengals are on the brink of playoffs
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From the Bengals.com article they list the following as potential:

Rex Ryan
Donnie Henderson
Tim Lewis
Kevin Coyle (secondary coach)

I would much rather hire from outside, I think it's best to promote from within when you're coming off of success... Eases the transition but we need new blood.

Lewis has had success, don't know much about Henderson. Please, please, please make Rex Ryan not get a HC job and come here.
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I would be highly upset if Coyle gets promoted. I think he is doing a fine job with our young DBs. Lets leave it at that. Everyone pray Rex Ryan.
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Donnie Henderson was solid with the Jets the one season he was with us. Really was able to fire up our guy and if I'm correct did a great job adjusting at the half. I was very disappointed when we didn't retain him after bringing in Mangini as the head coach but while he was with us (before we hired Mangini so 2 years ago I guess) he was great as a DC in his one year. Very aggressive which I think would work wonders for you guys with your strong young secondary. Speaking of the secondary, does it look like White and Ndukwe will be starting next year?
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Ndukwe will most likely start. White is a toss up. Didnt see as much of him as i hoped
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Very interesting on Henderson, sounds good to me.

You'd have to think Chinny will get the start, coaches have been ravving about him since mini camp and he did well out there this year.

I'm still not sure if we'll even keep Madieu. White didn't look bad out there which is great for a rookie.
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chinny and white could be a fantastic duo.
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Tim Lewis will make your defense suck even worse.

And yes, its possible.
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The '06 MNF game vs. the Colts is easily the worst defensive scheme ever devised in the history of football... It cannot be topped.

Too bad for Breshnahan he started to get aggressive towards the very end, that's what we needed. Now that we've got the corners we can afford to send that extra guy.
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I actually think Ryan is a real longshot and Henderson seems to have been brought in more as an adviser so I bet it does end up being Lewis. If that happens, does that mean a 3-4 is likely? I think we would be set at LBer if Thurman comes back. Not that we couldn't always use improvement but Jeanty, Henderson, Brooks and Geathers all provide real good size in the area of 250-260 range and if we can plug Thurman in there we'd be looking pretty good for awhile. Now where is that 330 lb NT?
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I live in the NEw York and see Jets/Giants games all the times. These guys are nice position coaches not great coordinators. If they are so good why is it no one else thinking about them? We need a guy that will change this defense. A guy unlike Marvin who will give the D an identity, swagger and attitude. Go spend big bucks on Ryan! DO NOT HIRE FROM WITHIN!! Ryan is the answer
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i'd be very surprised if we got ryan. he just seems out of reach even if mikey somehow would give him a big salary.
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Definetely don't hire from within, that would be terrible. Not much out there to be had, I'm always a fan of LB coaches getting promoted to DC but I don't know of any good ones out there.

And I agree that Ryan probably won't happen but it's worth dreaming about. He'll probably get a HC job and if not I would be surprised if we were the highest bidders.
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What about Ray Hamilton the Dline coach from the Jags? I dont know much, but he seems like he could really help us fix our biggest issue
I think we might go outside the box and higher an unknown or atleast unknown as a coordinator. Like a former pro or something.
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Don't know a thing about him but that's the kind of hire I would actually like to see. Instead of getting some washed up coach who we know what we're getting into I'd rather take a chance on a high energy guy that knows his way around a defense but hasn't been a DC. Marvin has said he can't run the defense which is understandable but he could guide a LB/Dline/Secondary coach into becoming a good D coordinator.
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Im trying to think feesable coaches aside from the Rex Ryan dream. I was looking at teams that seem to have stable and successful defenses yearly and Jacksonville was what came to mind. Or maybe the LB coach from Pittsburgh whose name evades me right now.
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Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer has emerged as a new candidate to replace fired Bengals defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan.

Zimmer is still under contract with the Falcons, but was given permission by the team to pursue other opportunities while the Falcons' coaching situation remains in flux.



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The latest on Bengals.com mentions that if all works out; Ryan is who Marvin wants. We could all celebrate.
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Yeah, here's the quote:

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And look for this thing to play out for a couple of weeks. With no immediate interviews seemingly on tap, could that mean that Rex Ryan looks to be Lewis' guy and the Bengals are simply waiting?

There could be a contractual hangup for Ryan, the highly-regarded Ravens defensive coordinator who worked under Lewis for three seasons in Baltimore and led the Ravens to a No. 1 and No. 5 ranking during the last three seasons in Baltimore.
That would just be so completely sweet. I loved watching the Ravens defense play, I think Ryan could really take advantage of some of our players with his various schemes.

The only drawback with hiring him is how much it would shoot my hopes up for next year haha.

Thanks for posting that up Hines, I haven't been able to find much info on candidates other than Bengals.com which is lame.
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On the news they just said Zimmer may be coming in for an interview.

Also that rumblings are still that Ryan is the top choice but there are obviously strings attached. Basically said it'll probably be a while.
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