*** Divisional Playoffs Gameday Thread ***

[KCJ58]

Originally Posted by yodachu

I hate the Chargers more than I hate the Patriots.

i can;t stand Phillip Rivers, he's the biggest trash talker ever and he sucks ass

[CC.SD]

Originally Posted by KCJ58

i can;t stand Phillip Rivers, he's the biggest trash talker ever and he sucks ass

He doesn't suck, this guy just carried his team to two playoff wins after a 13 year drought.

14/19, 264 yards, 3 Tds, 1 pick, in three quarters against the number 1 scoring defense? That is an awesome performance. Last week was great too. Stepping up in the playoffs is a good thing, yah?

[Forenci]

Meh, I'd rather have the emotionless robot known as Eli Manning than a trash talking QB like Rivers.

Though as of recent Eli has looked quite emotional on the field. It makes me giddy.

[Sniper]

Yay for the Cowboys losing this week and the Giants losing next week! This is great!

[Gay Ork Wang]

Im really surprised how sensitive TO is, and Im impressed that he's really supporting Tony Romo.

[Buffalo M]

Originally Posted by Renji

Im really surprised how sensitive TO is

I wet the bed.

[Shiver]

Originally Posted by Shiver

If Jacksonville cannot stop Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers' receivers, they are in a lot of trouble against New England. It won't matter if they have a dominant running game if they are down by two scores early. David Garrard is good, but he just doesn't have the weapons to win in a shootout.

The Seattle/Green Bay game is the least interesting game to me. I personally think Green Bay is super-bowl bound and I don't anticipate the Seahawks beating them in Lambeau.

The Chargers/Colts game is the one I am most excited about. The Chargers have, quite frankly, owned the Colts over the past few years. They have given Indy more problems than any other team. Lorenzo Neal should be back, which will only help get L.T back on track. The Chargers' defense has been great down the stretch and everyone knows that the Colts' have had struggles against a 3-4 defense. The keys to this game are this:

1. The Chargers' passing attack finally came alive, can they keep it up?
2. Will the Colts' be able to run the ball effectively. If not, then San Diego's defense will be able to come after Manning in long yardage situations.

Finally you have the Cowboys/Giants game. The Cowboys have been less than impressive as of late, and the Giants are surging. If there is an upset, I think this game is most likely to be it.

Wow, I think I did pretty good in analyzing the games earlier this week.

[Geo]

I think there's a noticeable discrepancy between the team from San Diego beating the Colts three times in a row and that team "owning" the Colts. I'll give you 2005 when they gave the Colts some fits, but not the earlier game this year (self-explanatory) nor the rematch yesterday.

Manning passed all over their secondary with his quick release and pocket awareness, meanwhile the Colts offensive line blanked their vaunted pass rush. I couldn't believe how non-existant the San Diego pass defense was, with their ballyhooed 3 starting cornerbacks on the field. Yes, they stopped the Colts' running attack ... but they always do that, so I don't know why anyone would expect much different. The Colts knew that, hence why they used Joseph Addai in the passing game more to gain more yards that way.

It literally came down to one of three turnovers on the Colts' part. The inexplicable Marvin Harrison fumble, the fluke Wayne deflection to Cromartie interception, the fluke Kenton Keith (I hate you 2K) deflection to Weddle interception. You lose the turnover battle, chances are you lose in the playoffs. Look at how well Eli and the Giants are taking care of the ball the last two weeks, despite being a road team.

I'm too lazy to check, but it wouldn't surprise me if every team that won on divisional playoff weekend, won the turnover battle. Or at least tied even. Not sure about the Packers, they gave up two early fumbles, they recovered the Marcus Pollard fumble, but I can't immediately recall another turnover off the top of my head.

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by Renji

Im really surprised how sensitive TO is, and Im impressed that he's really supporting Tony Romo.

I personally like TO, he is a very emotional guy, so when he is angry we all know it and it can cause some trouble with his teammates, but I think the media just blows everything out of proportion so he gets a bad rap.

Originally Posted by Geo

I'm too lazy to check, but it wouldn't surprise me if every team that won on divisional playoff weekend, won the turnover battle. Or at least tied even. Not sure about the Packers, they gave up two early fumbles, they recovered the Marcus Pollard fumble, but I can't immediately recall another turnover off the top of my head.

Teams were 3-1 winning the turn over battle, and as you said the Packers were the one team who didn't win it but both of theirs were very early and didn't affect the momentum during the game.

[Jughead10]

Originally Posted by fenikz

Teams were 3-1 winning the turn over battle, and as you said the Packers were the one team who didn't win it but both of theirs were very early and didn't affect the momentum during the game.

Giants really didn't win the turnover battle. It was even. That interception with 11 second left didn't really matter. If McQuarters just batted it down, it would have been to the same effect.

[KRS1]

Originally Posted by Geo

I think there's a noticeable discrepancy between the team from San Diego beating the Colts three times in a row and that team "owning" the Colts. I'll give you 2005 when they gave the Colts some fits, but not the earlier game this year (self-explanatory) nor the rematch yesterday.

Manning passed all over their secondary with his quick release and pocket awareness, meanwhile the Colts offensive line blanked their vaunted pass rush. I couldn't believe how non-existant the San Diego pass defense was, with their ballyhooed 3 starting cornerbacks on the field. Yes, they stopped the Colts' running attack ... but they always do that, so I don't know why anyone would expect much different. The Colts knew that, hence why they used Joseph Addai in the passing game more to gain more yards that way.

It literally came down to one of three turnovers on the Colts' part. The inexplicable Marvin Harrison fumble, the fluke Wayne deflection to Cromartie interception, the fluke Kenton Keith (I hate you 2K) deflection to Weddle interception. You lose the turnover battle, chances are you lose in the playoffs. Look at how well Eli and the Giants are taking care of the ball the last two weeks, despite being a road team.

I'm too lazy to check, but it wouldn't surprise me if every team that won on divisional playoff weekend, won the turnover battle. Or at least tied even. Not sure about the Packers, they gave up two early fumbles, they recovered the Marcus Pollard fumble, but I can't immediately recall another turnover off the top of my head.

Yeah it came down to 3 plays... WTF ever dude. The Chargers came out with a good game plan against you guys. Limit big plays and get stops on 3rd down. Yeah Peyton passed for 400 yards but his Yards After Catch was insane. It's not like he carved the Chargers up. He dumped the ball quickly to avoid the pass rush and he benifted a lot from a couple of missed tackles on the Chargers part.

The Chargers found a way to overcame 2 horrific calls by officials that both directly resulted in touchdowns (1 for and 1 against) and a missed field goal. Merriman dropped a sure int that you guys turned into a field goal as well. Not too mention the loss of last years league MVP and our starting QB.

The game was a lot closer than it should have been and I'm getting sick of hearing about how you guys lost it and not about how we won it. Chargers looked like the better team in every aspect of the game except for maybe special teams.

Also I'd like to see a great guy like Dungy stick around but something tells me he is gone. If he does leave the game will loose a true class act and a great guy.

[yodapoop]

Originally Posted by ChargerCohen

But the Chargers love you, Yodachu!

I generalized a bit there, I don't hate all of the Chargers, but my hatrid of Phillip Rivers and Shawne Merriman soars over my hatrid for the Patriots. Not saying that Rivers and Merriman are bad players, I am just saying, I don't like them.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by KRS1

Yeah it came down to 3 plays... WTF ever dude. The Chargers came out with a good game plan against you guys. Limit big plays and get stops on 3rd down. Yeah Peyton passed for 400 yards but his Yards After Catch was insane. It's not like he carved the Chargers up. He dumped the ball quickly to avoid the pass rush and he benifted a lot from a couple of missed tackles on the Chargers part.

Not even three plays, just one of those three. Manning didn't carve the Chargers up? Don't be ridiculous.

The Chargers found a way to overcame 2 horrific calls by officials that both directly resulted in touchdowns (1 for and 1 against) and a missed field goal. Merriman dropped a sure int that you guys turned into a field goal as well. Not too mention the loss of last years league MVP and our starting QB.

LOL, both those calls were valid. Holding is holding last I checked, as is not stepping out of bounds means you're in bounds. But I guess they were horrific because they didn't go San Diego's way, mkay.

The game was a lot closer than it should have been and I'm getting sick of hearing about how you guys lost it and not about how we won it. Chargers looked like the better team in every aspect of the game except for maybe special teams.

Who said San Diego didn't win it? They won the game, they beat the Colts. They scored 28 points in the RCA Dome.

Nate Keading is the most overrated kicker in the league, I already said that last season. Others are finally starting to get it, I think. He's even worse than the kicker Indy had before Vinatieri.

Also I'd like to see a great guy like Dungy stick around but something tells me he is gone. If he does leave the game will loose a true class act and a great guy.

Honestly, I wouldn't be as disappointed now if Dungy retires as I would have been last week. But I don't want to see him gone, obviously.

[KRS1]

The Chargers gave Manning the underneath pass. They tried to eliminate deep balls and did it. Credit Peyton with maybe half of those 400 yards and credit his recievers and Addai with the rest. Throwing 5 yard dump passes to your running back that turn into 10-20 yard plays make the quarterback play look a lot better than it should. At what point did Peyton exploit San Diego down field? Even the first touchdown he threw was all Dallas Clark faking Clinton Hart out of his shoes.

You are right holding is holding and that's why it should have been called on Addai if anyone. It was really a lame call no matter how you want to try to spin it. Weddle was actually pulled to the ground by his jersey. I also wasn't referencing the near out of bounds plays, I was talking about the faux pass interference on Hart. Haha it's not horrific when calls go against the Chargers it's horrific when refs try to change the outcome of the game. Ask everyone in the country that isn't an Indy fan.

Talk all the crap you want to about Keading because he deserves it but he has always been great in the regular season.

[CC.SD]

The Chargers beat the Colts, for the 3rd time in a row, without LT. Without Rivers during crunch time. With Gates on one leg. and beating a ridiculously biased officiating crew.

I think that trumps all the little nitpicking Colts fans are now doing to their team. Dropped passes happen. Turnovers happen, especially against the #1 turnover producing defense in the league!!!

All I can say for sure; it wasn't Dungy's fault. He should come back.

[someone447]

Originally Posted by ChargerCohen

The Chargers beat the Colts, for the 3rd time in a row, without LT. Without Rivers during crunch time. With Gates on one leg. and beating a ridiculously biased officiating crew.

Come on. There was only one real bad call, and that was the holding on Cromartie's return. Other then that I didn't notice anything that truly affected the outcome of the game. The calls went both ways.

[JK17]

Originally Posted by someone447

Come on. There was only one real bad call, and that was the holding on Cromartie's return. Other then that I didn't notice anything that truly affected the outcome of the game. The calls went both ways.

The pass interference call on Hart was ridiculous...that was the most ridiculous one, but I think the refs sucked just as much both ways...how Reggie Wayne was initially ruled out was ridiculous as well.

[P-L]

I'm usually the last person to complain about officiating. In fact, more times than not I've gone out of my way to defend questionable officiating. However, the Holding call on Weddle and the Pass Interference call on Hart were two of the top ten worst calls I've seen during a football game. The announcers disagreed both times, Boomer Esiason acknowledge they were bad calls in the post-game, and Mark Schlereth mentioned the Holding call on SportsCenter. I don't believe that it was a conspiracy in favor of the Colts, but had they won I think the situation should've at least been looked into by the NFL.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

I don't like Jerry Austin's crew, and I don't like Ron Winter's crew, cause Winter's crew is always calling defensive holding calls against the Packers cause they can't take real football and he wants sissy two hand touch football with each team scoring at least 30 points. He called the obvious ones on Woodson and Harris but then he calls all the incidental contact on the Packers.

[CC.SD]

Originally Posted by Patriots-Lions

I'm usually the last person to complain about officiating. In fact, more times than not I've gone out of my way to defend questionable officiating. However, the Holding call on Weddle and the Pass Interference call on Hart were two of the top ten worst calls I've seen during a football game. The announcers disagreed both times, Boomer Esiason acknowledge they were bad calls in the post-game, and Mark Schlereth mentioned the Holding call on SportsCenter. I don't believe that it was a conspiracy in favor of the Colts, but had they won I think the situation should've at least been looked into by the NFL.

There was also a clear pass interference call against the Colts, but the flag got picked up because Rivers was out of the pocket. The only problem was...Rivers was clearly still in the pocket.

The officiating was nutso, I don't know how anyone could watch that game and say otherwise.



EDIT: Here's a quote from someone who was at the game re: River's yelling at the crowd. Obviously it's complete hearsay.

http://forum.signonsandiego.com/uplo...ad.php?t=82717

Some guy in the crowd was screaming about raping Rivers' daughter. Yikes.

Is it true? Who knows, obviously not a reliable source.