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Old 01-24-2008, 08:52 PM    (permalink
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I had a feeling all of that was bs, is just like when a player is a free agent, everyone always want to send them to the redskins.
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Greg Williams is a good DC, but Rex Ryan made the Ravens a killer defense.
I don't agree with that. Baltimore's defense has always been good. The coordinators came and went, but the defense stayed the same.

Why? Because of the TALENT. Look at what overhyped coordinators such as Marvin Lewis and Mike Nolan have done since they left the Ravens. Jack. Thats what they did.

How hard is it to run the Ravens defense? I mean seriously, you can call whatever you want, and chances are it will still work. They had aging CBs this year, and Ryan's "scheme" looked very vulnerable. Its not Ryan, its the players.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3214785

Well, it looks like Zorn to be OC. Good news for Campbell, I think he can preform much better in a Zorn run offense.

Although, this hasn't been posted on Redskins.com, so take it for what is worth. Earlier Fassel was reported to be the HC but isn't so far.
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thats nice. i really like zorn and think that he will really help campbells future.
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Damn, losing Zorn sucks.
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I don't agree with that. Baltimore's defense has always been good. The coordinators came and went, but the defense stayed the same.

Why? Because of the TALENT. Look at what overhyped coordinators such as Marvin Lewis and Mike Nolan have done since they left the Ravens. Jack. Thats what they did.

How hard is it to run the Ravens defense? I mean seriously, you can call whatever you want, and chances are it will still work. They had aging CBs this year, and Ryan's "scheme" looked very vulnerable. Its not Ryan, its the players.
the intresting thing about this i belive the talent level has gone down, i think they need to get some more talent around guys like Ray Lewis & Chris McAlister that can bring help them out

they need some talent on the defence side to be what they once where
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My guess is that Gregg Williams waits it out to see if he gets Head Coach Position. If he dosnt he'll wait it out to see if the Ravens lose Rex Ryan. He loves the area and so does his family. He's stated he has NEVER wanted to move again if he can help it. If the Ravens lose Rex Ryan he'll be hired as the Ravens Defensive Coordinater and I wish him best. If that does not happen I think he'll either go to Jacksonville or sit out a year(call me crazy).
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http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redsk...s_is_gone.html

Well GW is gone.

Screw Snyder, he's throwing away everything Gibbs built for him in the last 4 years. I wish GW the best of luck.
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I like Blache as the defensive coordinator there. Not sure how much input he's already had, but he's a fiery dude that commands respect from his players. I know Urlacher loved him.
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Redskins dismiss both Al Saunders and Gregg Williams.

Good move by the franchise, knowing they wanted to move on from both coaches but letting them leave now means they still have a chance to get a job for next season.

And I'm with 51 in liking the Blache promotion.
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I still would have liked Williams to lead our defense. I still think that if we get somebody like Spags from NY or pretty much anybody not Jim Fassel/Mora we are moving in the right direction.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, it's probably going to be a defensive minded HC coming in. Zorn left Seattle in order to run his own offense, so that hopefully leaves out people like McDaniels and Fassel.

Look for Spags, Schwartz (a Williams descendant, very similar defenses) or maybe Rex Ryan.

Although, Fassel is very much an option, he could just come in and be a figure head.
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Who's going to want to HC a team that already has its OC and DC picked out? Isn't that the coach's job?

This is dumb on so many levels. And hopefully this means no Spags there either, since the DC is a Cover 2 guy.

I smell a Jim Fassell hire very soon.
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Who's going to want to HC a team that already has its OC and DC picked out? Isn't that the coach's job?

This is dumb on so many levels. And hopefully this means no Spags there either, since the DC is a Cover 2 guy.

I smell a Jim Fassell hire very soon.
Greg Blache isn't a cover 2 guy at all, where did you get that?
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out of my ass quite honestly. I assumed he was since he worked under the Bears.
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Greg Blache isn't a cover 2 guy at all, where did you get that?
What did he run in CHI?

I'm not that familiar with him.

On another note, the Skins also resigned Kirk Olivadotti, LBer coach. Hopefully he can be our DC in a few years.
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the intresting thing about this i belive the talent level has gone down, i think they need to get some more talent around guys like Ray Lewis & Chris McAlister that can bring help them out

they need some talent on the defence side to be what they once where
exactly, and thats why you saw a dip in production. the talent wasn't up to par, and the defense took a step back. i don't know how much Ryan's schemes had to do with their production, compared to their talent.

Because of that, i think Rex is overrated. Hes not bad by any means, but he's not the god of DCs either.
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Blache was the defensive coordinator under Dick Jauron, not Lovie.

This was back when we had Ted Washington and Keith Traylor holding up blockers for Brian Urlacher and Warrick Holdman with Rosey Colvin blitzing from the outside.

That's not to say that you'll get the same type of defense in Washington. Blache is most famous here for saying that sacks were overrated and that he didn't care about them. That's probably why Brian Robinson and Phllip Daniels were our starting defensive ends. He was always much more concerned with being stout against the run. It was actually the total opposite of Lovie's defense. Probably the closest to what Jacksonville does now.
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Wow I thought Williams had the job, Snyder always finds a way to spend his money on a mistake
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Blache was the defensive coordinator under Dick Jauron, not Lovie.

This was back when we had Ted Washington and Keith Traylor holding up blockers for Brian Urlacher and Warrick Holdman with Rosey Colvin blitzing from the outside.

That's not to say that you'll get the same type of defense in Washington. Blache is most famous here for saying that sacks were overrated and that he didn't care about them. That's probably why Brian Robinson and Phllip Daniels were our starting defensive ends. He was always much more concerned with being stout against the run. It was actually the total opposite of Lovie's defense. Probably the closest to what Jacksonville does now.
well knowing that now, i can see them using essentially the same scheme that they already use in Washington.

Washington will play the role of Colvin. Washington still ran a decent amount of Cover 2 under Williams.
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I really don't get why Williams got turfed.
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Blache was the defensive coordinator under Dick Jauron, not Lovie.

This was back when we had Ted Washington and Keith Traylor holding up blockers for Brian Urlacher and Warrick Holdman with Rosey Colvin blitzing from the outside.

That's not to say that you'll get the same type of defense in Washington. Blache is most famous here for saying that sacks were overrated and that he didn't care about them. That's probably why Brian Robinson and Phllip Daniels were our starting defensive ends. He was always much more concerned with being stout against the run. It was actually the total opposite of Lovie's defense. Probably the closest to what Jacksonville does now.
Sacks are overrated. Ha. No wonder he took the DC job at Washington, with no legit passrushers of any kind outside of Carter.

I can't see Spags taking this job. As is it looks like this guy has a polar oppsite view on defense as he does. Spags defense is all about getting after the QB and playing the run as it comes to you while getting after the QB. While I don't think Coughlin, Reese, and company would hold him back from getting this job if he truly wanted it, I think they would seriously advice him against the Redskins job especially after having both coordinators named. Spags would be so much better off waiting another year.
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