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Old 02-01-2008, 03:16 PM    (permalink) 
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Who has the worst First Round picks?

The Dolphins?

2007 - Ted Ginn Jr.
2006 - Jason Allen
2005 - Ronnie Brown
2004 - Vernon Carey
2003 - no pick
2002 - no pick
2001 - Jamar Fletcher
2000 - no pick
1999 - no pick
1998 - John Avery
1997 - Yatil Green
1996 - Daryl Gardener
1995 - Billy Milner
1994 - Tim Bowens
1993 - O.J. McDuffie

Who do u think?
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I am not saying the Bears are the worst, but they have had there share of bad 1st Round picks.

1990
6. Mark Carrier, S, USC

1991
22. Stan Thomas, OT, Texas

1992
22. Alonzo Spellman, DE, Ohio State

1993
7. Curtis Conway, WR, USC

1994
11. John Thiery, DE, Alcorn State

1995
21. Rashaan Salaam, RB, Colorado

1996
13. Walt Harris, CB, Mississippi State

1997
No Pick

1998
5. Curtis Enis, RB, Penn State

1999
12. Cade McNown, QB, UCLA

2000
9. Brian Urlacher, LB, New Mexico

2001
8. David Terrell, WR, Michigan

2002
29. Marc Colombo, OT, Boston College

2003
14. Michael Haynes, DE, Penn State
22. Rex Grossman, QB, Florida

2004
14. Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma

2005
4. Cedric Benson, RB, Texas

2006
No Pick

2007
31. Greg Olsen, TE, Miami

Aside from Walt Harris, Conway, Urlacher, Tommie Harris all of the other picks were bad, with the exception being Colombo who was just never healthy in Chicago. One year is too little time to give a grade on Olsen.
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Bengals:

07- Leon Hall
06- Johnathan Joseph
05- David Pollack - done for career probably
04- chris perry... weak sauce
03- Palmer jackpot.
02- Levi Jones- great
01- Justin Smith- a very average player to be a top 5 pick
00- Peter Warrick- garbage
99- Akili Smith- we all know
98- Takeo Spikes- good pick
98- Brian Simmons- another good pick
97- Reinard Wilson- man he was horrible
96- Willie Anderson- great pick
95- Ki-Jana Carter. big time bust
94- Dan Wilkinson- not a first overall player
93- John Copeland- injured all the time. weak.
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Please the Lions are kings of bad 1st round picks

2007 Calvin Johnson (jury still out)
2006 Ernie Sims (good)
2005 Mike Williams (Is he even still in the league)
2004 Roy Williams (Great player)
Kevin Jones (injury prone)
2003 Charles Rogers (No longer in league)
2002 Joey Harrington (Joke of the league)
2001 Jeff Backus (Still on team but nothing special)
2000 Stockar McDougle (Who?)
1999 Chris Claiborne (Decent but not great)
Aaron Gibson (Who?)
1998 Terry Fair
1997 Bryant Westbrook (decent but not extraordinary)
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Will all due respect gentleman, disregarding recent success at the top of the draft,The jets are and shall forever be the kings of ineptitude when it comes to the old first round picks...just look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98

Chris Berman's quote is priceless; "as a jets season ticket holder, I'm gonna Boo." Sorry jets fans, this is really hard to watch.
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why would u draft a FB in the first?
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Haha and welcome to the pain that is being a jets fan; my uncles refuse to watch the draft to this day and everytime i bring up Mangold or Revis or Leon, they basically say either they got lucky, theyll get hurt or even a blind dog finds a bone etc.

The picks aren't even the most upsetting part, it's who we passed up instead...Marino stands our extremely clear in my mind!
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I dont know if it's the worst but the Packers havent been the best, especially from 89-01.

2007 Justin Harrell (too early, hasnt shown anything so far)
2006 A.J. Hawk (good pick)
2005 Aaron Rodgers (hasnt had a chance to show anything)
2004 Ahmad Carroll (I hate Mike Sherman)
2003 Nick Barnett (good pick)
2002 Javon Walker (good pick)
2001 Jamal Reynolds (nothing like trading up for a complete bust)
2000 Bubba Franks (nothing special)
1999 Antwan Edwards (bad pick)
1998 Vonnie Holliday (decent pick but didnt do that much for the Pack)
1997 Ross Verba (same as Holliday)
1996 John Michels (bad pick)
1995 Craig Newsome (never that good)
1994 Aaron Taylor (decent til he got hurt)
1993 Wayne Simmons (decent pick)
George Teague (decent pick)
1992 Terrell Buckley (didnt do much for the Pack but a good pick I guess)
1991 Vinnie Clark (no idea who he is)
1990 Tony Bennett (bad pick)
Darrell Thompson (horrible pick)

and finally...

1989 Tony Mandarich (possibly the worst pick ever considering some guy named Barry Sanders was available)
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Denver has nothing to be proud about... well, except Cutler.

2007 - Jarvis Moss (voted most likely to have a career ending injury)
2006 - Jay Cutler (yeah!)
2005 - <none>
2004 - D.J. Williams
2003 - George Foster
2002 - Ashley Lelie (serves us right for drafting a guy named "Ashley")
2001 - Willie Middlebrooks
2000 - Deltha O'Neal
1999 - Al Wilson (career ended by injury... or is it?)
1998 - Marcus Nash
1997 - Trevor Pryce
1996 - John Mobley (career ended by injury)
1995 - Jamie Brown
1994 - Allen Aldridge
1993 - Dan Williams
1992 - Tommy Maddox
1991 - Mike Croel
1990 - Alton Montgomery
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Been great lately, but from 1994-2000 the San Diego Chargers only kept one first round pick and they used it on a guy named Ryan Leaf..
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Saints

2007-Robert Meachem (Wasn't activated one game this year)
2006-Reggie Bush (Can you say BUST?)
2005-Jammal Brown (Overrated IMO)
2004-Will Smith
2003- **** Johnathan Sullivan
2002-Donte' Stallworth/Charles Grant
2001-Deuce McAllister
2000-No Pick
1999-Ricky Williams
1998-Kyle Turley
1997-Chris Naeole
1996-Alex Molden
1995-Mark Fields
1994-Joe Johnson
1993-William Roaf/Irv Smith
1992-Vaughn Dunbar
1991-No Pick
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I'm noticing a trend here...the Jaguars are the recent kings of first round stupidness...

2007- Reggie Nelson (good rookie season)
2006- Marcedes Lewis (becoming a good TE)
2005- Matt Jones (stupid)
2004- Reggie Williams (showing signs of life)
2003- Byron Leftwich (Bust)
2002- John Henderson (Great pick)
2001- Marcus Stroud (Great pick)
2000- R.J. Soward (could be one of the worst picks....ever)
1999- Fernando Bryant (awful pick)
1998- Donovan Darius (an ok pick)
Fred Taylor (should be a HOFer at some point...best pick in franchise)
1997- Renaldo Wynn (an ok pick)
1996- Tony Boselli (second best pick in franchise history)
James Stewart (was a good player for a while)
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Saint Louis Rams:

2007: #13 Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska (Too early to tell but he should be a good future DT/DE)

2006: #15 Tye Hill, CB, Clemson (Hasn't really played a full season give him couple more years)

2005: #19 Alex Barron, OT, Florida State (Too many false starts, but hasn't really been injured and started every game this year)

2004: #24 Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon State (did you see the season he had in 06, more to come with this guy)

2003: #12 Jimmie Kennedy, DT, Penn State (not on the team anymore wasn't very productive, we gave him lots of chances, a waste of a 1st round pick)

2002: #31 Robert Thomas, LB, UCLA (only played 3 seasons in St. Louis wasn't a bad LB, had 164 tackles and 2 sacks in 3 years)

2001: #12 Damien Lewis, DT, Miami (Fla) (Not even on the team anymore never had a breakout year like he should have, just an average DT in the NFL)
#20 Adam Archuleta, S, Arizona State (I loved him when he was in St. Louis, now he's in Chicago not doing that great should have never left the rams)
#29 Ryan Pickett, DT, Ohio State (All 3 of these guys that we drafted 7 years ago are not even on the team anymore, Pickett never had the year he was projected he was a average DT just like Lewis

2000: #31 Trung Candidate, RB, Arizona (Fast player, Bad running back he's not even in the NFL)

1999: #6 Torry Holt, WR, North Carolina State (One of my all time favorite picks, will break all of Isaac Bruces records, a 5 time Pro Bowler)
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2007 AARON ROSS (Awesome!!!!)

2006 MATHIAS KIWANUKA (Jury is still out and started to play better, but I think he sucks.)

2004 PHILIP RIVERS QB (Essentially Eli Manning who is a straight up balla.)

2003 WILLIAM JOSEPH DT (Booooooooooooooo)

2002 JEREMY SHOCKEY TE (Consistent Pro-Bowl and top-5 in the league at his position.)

2001 WILL ALLEN CB (Had so much potential, which went no where.)

2000 RON DAYNE RB (His name thunder actually referred to the loud noise of frustration from every Giants fan when he touched the ball.)

1999 LUKE PETITGOUT OT (He is better at getting penalties than blocking.)

1998 SHAUN WILLIAMS DB (This just gets depressing.)

1997 IKE HILLIARD WR (Always liked Ike, but not worth a top-10 pick.)

1996 CEDRIC JONES DE (This is where it keeps going downhill.)

1995 TYRONE WHEATLEY RB (And further downhill.)

1994 THOMAS LEWIS WR (Let's just not talk about this era of Giants football.)

1992 DEREK BROWN TE (I don't even like to believe we existed at the moment.)

1991 JARROD BUNCH RB (Yeah, Super Bowl!!!!! But booo, Bunch!!!!)
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Looking at all this...are the 1st Round Picks actually that important?
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Looking at all this...are the 1st Round Picks actually that important?
The funny thing is that look at the improvement in recent years. I just think scouting departments have picked up their game recently with the increasing amount of technology around them. Better technology leads to better communication and thus better evaluation of prospects.
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2007-Robert Meachem (Wasn't activated one game this year)
2006-Reggie Bush (Can you say BUST?)
2005-Jammal Brown (Overrated IMO)
2004-Will Smith
2003- **** Johnathan Sullivan
2002-Donte' Stallworth/Charles Grant
2001-Deuce McAllister
2000-No Pick
1999-Ricky Williams
1998-Kyle Turley
1997-Chris Naeole
1996-Alex Molden
1995-Mark Fields
1994-Joe Johnson
1993-William Roaf/Irv Smith
1992-Vaughn Dunbar
1991-No Pick
Errr, yeah. Okay.
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yes first round picks are very important... Look at the Patriots and the Colts, two of the best teams in the league are also the best in the first round. Coincidence? Maybe... doubt it though.
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2007 - Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU - Absolute monster this year 5 yards shy of 1,000 and set KC rookie recieveing record in yards and catches
2006 - Tamba Hali, DE, Penn St - had a dropoff in sacks from his rookie year but still a solid pick and caused a few forced fumbles
2005 - Derrick Johnson, LB, Texas - has gotten better each year a playmaker on this defense
2004 - no pick (we got Siavii and Kris Wilson in the 2nd.YUCK!!!!!)
2003 - Larry Johnson, RB, Penn St - a tremendous pick for Carl Peterson
2002 - Ryan Sims, DT, UNC - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2001 - no pick
2000 - Slyvester Morris, WR, Jackson St - started off well but was never the same after his knee injury
1999 - John Tait, OT, BYU -boy do Carl peterson and the Chiefs regret letting him leave with the state of the OL
1998 - Victor Riley, OG, Auburn - pardon me while I throw up
1997 - Tony Gonzalez, TE, California - arguably the best pick ever made in the Peterson regime with the exception of DT
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The Buccaneers have had some dodgy ones but have also had a few good years.

2007: Gaines Adams

2006: Davin Joseph

2005: Cadillac Williams

2004: Michael Clayton

2003: Nobody

2002: Nobody

2001: Kenyatta Walker

2000: Nobody

1999: Booger McFarland

1998: Nobody

1997: Warrick Dunn

1996: Regan Upshaw/Marcus Jones

1995: Warren Sapp/Derrick Brooks - Great Year

1994: Trent Dilfer

1993: Eric Curry

1992: Nobody
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I like what the Chiefs have done. Besides for Gonzalez, nothing really special, but not many busts.
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