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Old 02-06-2008, 11:46 PM    (permalink
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ya Aso is a FA

Dansby is a basic lock to be franchised
BOOO!!! He'd look so good in a Jets uni
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According to Adam Schefter of NFL Network based on talk in league circles, the following players could be franchised in the next two weeks: Cardinals linebacker Karlos Dansby, Panthers tackle Jordan Gross, Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, Titans defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, Patriots receiver Randy Moss, and Seahawks cornerback Marcus Trufant.

Other potential tag-wearers include Chiefs defensive end Jared Allen and Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs.

Tag season is from FEB 7 to FEB 21
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I don't think Berrian is going to get tagged...I really think he wants out of Chicago...
First of all, the two have nothing to do with each other. So your whole post makes no sense.

Second of all, Berrian has actually been on record as saying that he would be fine if the team tagged him, as that's a lot of money and he doesn't want to move anyway.
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Randy Moss is definitely a lock for the Patriots. Even if both parties verbally agree to terms earlier before/when free agency begins, they cannot sign him to a new deal until the end of April. Using the franchise tag however, protects them and gives them opportunity to sign him later if they so choose.
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I hope the Titans dont tag Hanyesworth.
If they do, Corey Williams will be the #1 DT FA, and he'll cost too much money, so we probably won't sign him.
You seriously think the with the most cap room in the NFL wouldn't tag the defender who basically MADE their entire D in 07? DT tag is like $6M in 08, it barely even registers with the cap room the Titans have.
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Haynesworth has to be franchise tagged, that's absolutely true. I'm not sure why anyone would think otherwise, quite honestly.

Plus I think it would be beneficial before investing in Haynesworth long-term/big money.
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OFFICIAL 2008 FRANCHISE AND TRANSITION TENDER AMOUNTS
Source: NFLPA

CB
Clements, Nate CB $12,266,666

McAlister, Chris CB $9,407,082

Surtain, Patrick CB $9,280,000

Jammer, Quentin CB $8,583,330

Samuel, Asante CB $7,790,000

Springs, Shawn CB $7,358,333

Henry, Anthony CB $5,600,000

David, Jason CB $5,525,000

Bailey, Champ CB $5,411,575

Tillman, Charles CB $5,372,666

Franchise $9,465,000
Transition $7,659,000

DE

Peppers, Julius DE $12,437,500

Taylor, Jason DE $9,519,625

Smith, Justin DE $8,644,000

Kearse, Jevon DE $7,063,890

Strahan, Michael DE $6,728,285

Ellis, Shaun DE $6,725,000

Seymour, Richard DE $6,600,000

Gbaja-Biamila, Kabeer DE $6,571,428

Abraham, John DE $6,500,000

Kelsay, Chris DE $6,000,000

Franchise $8,879,000
Transition $7,679,000

DT

Robertson, Dewayne DT $7,391,369

Sapp, Warren DT $6,297,000

Griffin, Cornelius DT $6,166,333

Haynesworth, Albert DT $6,041,669

Coleman, Roderick DT $5,917,500

Williams, Kevin DT $5,709,249

McFarland, Anthony DT $5,500,000

Jenkins, Kris DT $4,539,618

Bernard, Rocky DT $4,500,000

Williams, Pat DT $4,477,208

Franchise $6,363,000
Transition $5,654,000



LB

Lewis, Ray LB $9,428,571

Thomas, Zach LB $7,987,000

Brooking, Keith LB $7,692,226

Bulluck, Keith LB $7,608,668

Barnett, Nick LB $7,608,571

Briggs, Lance LB $7,206,000

Smith, Daryl LB $7,066,667

Colvin, Rosevelt LB $6,428,000

Peterson, Julian LB $6,300,000

Washington, Marcus LB $6,020,416

Franchise $8,065,000
Transition $7,335,000



OL

Jones, Walter OL $8,600,000

Anderson, Willie OL $7,600,000

Pace, Orlando OL $7,075,000

Adams, Flozell OL $7,000,000

Johnson, Al OL $7,000,000

Dockery, Derrick OL $6,750,000

Smith, Marvel OL $6,645,500

Samuels, Chris OL $6,200,000

Jennings, Jonas OL $6,042,000

Clifton, Chad OL $6,034,166

Franchise $7,455,000
Transition $6,895,000



P/K

Lindell, Rian P/K $3,260,000

Elam, Jason P/K $3,030,000

Scobee, Josh P/K $2,100,000

Kaeding, Nate P/K $2,100,000

Hanson, Jason P/K $2,080,000

Brown, Josh P/K $2,078,000

Vinatieri, Adam P/K $2,070,000

Janikowski, Sebastian P/K $1,952,835

Kasay, John P/K $1,900,000

Hentrich, Craig P/K $1,883,750

Franchise $2,514,000
Transition $2,245,000



QB

Palmer, Carson QB $13,480,000

Favre, Brett QB $11,800,000

Manning, Eli QB $10,046,666

Hasselbeck, Matt QB $9,200,000

Bulger, Marc QB $9,123,000

Romo, Tony QB $8,916,666

McNabb, Donovan QB $8,553,911

Manning, Peyton QB $8,200,000

Leinart, Matt QB $8,110,000

Vick, Michael QB $7,572,857

Franchise $10,730,000
Transition $9,500,000



RB

Tomlinson, LaDainian RB $7,066,666

James, Edgerrin RB $7,000,000

Taylor, Fred RB $6,600,000

Dunn, Warrick RB $6,278,336

McAllister, Deuce RB $5,745,000

Alexander, Shaun RB $5,700,000

Jordan, LaMont RB $5,400,000

Johnson, Rudi RB $4,550,000

Jones, Thomas RB $4,400,000

Foster, DeShaun RB $4,250,000

Franchise $6,538,000
Transition $5,699,000



S

Archuleta, Adam S $5,095,000

Huff, Michael S $4,800,000

Lewis, Michael S $4,095,000

Holt, Terrence S $4,000,000

Wilson, Adrian S $3,989,499

Wesley, Greg S $3,847,916

Williams, Roy S $3,507,379

Polamalu, Troy S $3,339,500

Sharper, Darren S $3,150,000

Brown, Mike S $3,106,666

Franchise $4,396,000
Transition $3,893,000



TE

Heap, Todd TE $4,900,000

Crumpler, Alge TE $4,708,333

Gonzalez, Tony TE $4,531,370

Shockey, Jeremy TE $4,371,667

Shiancoe, Odai TE $4,100,000

Gates, Antonio TE $3,825,000

Witten, Jason TE $2,795,000

Kleinsasser, Jim TE $2,750,000

Davis, Vernon TE $2,700,000

Lee, Donald TE $2,645,000

Franchise $4,522,000
Transition $3,733,000



WR

Owens, Terrell WR $9,666,666

Harrison, Marvin WR $8,400,000

Holt, Torry WR $7,604,714

Johnson, Chad WR $7,165,370

Williams, Roy WR $6,403,334

Curtis, Kevin WR $6,333,333

Branch, Deion WR $5,980,000

Wayne, Reggie WR $5,880,000

Givens, David WR $5,700,000

Ward, Hines WR $5,585,000
Franchise $7,848,000
Transition $6,872,000
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Ugh, that's painful to see KGB is still the 8th highest paid DE. Surprised to see Franks isn't on there. Where'd you get those numbers from? I'd like to check his salary.
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Holy crap, there are some seriously overpaid players there.

$4.522M for Clark isn't too bad, I suppose.
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There are reports that Marcus Trufant won't be tagged.
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I heard Schefter today say that the Seahawks are considering that, which is very interesting. They essentially run a Tampa 2 in everything but name only, so it's somewhat understandable in that respect. But if they're letting Trufant test the open market just so they can franchise tag their kicker ... that's just stupid imo. He's a blasted kicker, you've spent years and millions developing Trufant into a Pro Bowl corner.

Granted they've spent some early picks on corners the last few years, Kelly Jennings in 06 and Josh Wilson last year, but I wonder how fully they could replace Trufant as the Big Show has one last year to try and win another championship.
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I think the Jags should make a play on Trufant...but that's jmo..
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This is going to be a boring off season if every big name player gets franchised by their team.
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Jared Allen will get the tag but the team will try to work out a long term deal afterwards.
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I don't think the discussion should be over who will get tagged or not. But more-so who is going to have a real problem with being tagged and be a distraction in the offseason.

I think with guys like Briggs and Samuels being the squeaky wheel and essentially getting out of the tag after one year a lot more players agents will be whispering for them to make a fuss in order to get it put into their contract that they will only play under the tag for 1 year.
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Keep in mind, a franchised player is either given the league wide franchise tender, OR 120% value on his last year cap hit (i.e. not necessarily what he was actually paid last year, but his cap hit).

So Haynesworth, for instance, had a cap hit of around $6M according to the figures above, and the tender for a DT is $6.3M. However, 120% of Albert's 07 cap hit is $7.2M or so, so he would be franchised at $7.2M.

Still a VERY reasonable number given his services in 07, and the risk a long term deal offers.
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You are right OzTitan. Here is the exact number from Rotoworld.
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Adam Schefter said Asomugha will get the tag and 0% chance he hits the open market.
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Adam Schefter said Asomugha will get the tag and 0% chance he hits the open market.
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This means that Moss will technically become a free agent before he can ink the deal.
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Because Moss reduced his contract in April 2007 after being traded to New England, the Collective Bargaining Agreement reportedly prevents the team from signing him to a new deal before the start of the new league year, on February 29.

This means that Moss will technically become a free agent before he can ink the deal.
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This means that Moss will technically become a free agent before he can ink the deal.
so who cares if he does become a FA? after a season like that, its not like he is going anywhere, no matter how much money people throw at him. Just because he hits the open market for a few days doesnt mean that he is gunna sign with another team. If you all recall, he took a pay cut to go to NE in the first place. He completely rejuvenated his career and its not like he is playing to fill up his piggy bank. Patriots fans can relax, Moss will be back with you next year. Why would he leave?
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