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View Poll Results: Who will be our other starter at safety in week 1?
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Opposite Burnett (hopefully Burnett will be there, won't be hurt already), who do you predict is our opening day starter at the other safety spot?

-Sean Richardson
-Chris Banjo
Those 2 are the only safeties listed on the roster besides Morgan.
-Micah Hyde
-A free agent like Chris Clemons
-Rookie like Pryor, Dix, Ward, or Bucannon
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I expect TT will end up taking a safety in the mid rounds and then bring in Clemons or DeCoud on the cheap.
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I expect TT will end up taking a safety in the mid rounds and then bring in Clemons or DeCoud on the cheap.
I would love that, but I am not holding my breath.

What if..... Nick Collins has been getting medically cleared behind the scenes?
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Don't hold your breath. Collins is well and done I think. A real shame but you can't F around with spinals.
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If they want the best (4) DB's on the field at same time than this:

CB - Shields
CB - T Williams
SS - Burnett
FS - Heyward

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Come on, only 3 of us think we are going to have 2 starting safeties this year?

Let me hear your guesses before the draft is here or before Teddy makes an 8th inning FA signing.
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I'm 98% confident it will be a rookie.
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I think Banjo/Richardson will be given the first shot to win the job, even if we draft a guy early. There's many elements in terms of calls and communication that give current roster players an early season advantage, but ultimately the player who can provide a positive impact will see the majority of snaps next to Burnett.
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Capers wants someone back there who knows what they are doing, and that ideally is a veteran. Even a veteran with lacking skills like a Charlie Peprah in 2010.

But a rookie like these 2 guys last year and the year before CAN come in and make a defense better. Especially if they are physical, good tacklers.

I thought we would get Chris Clemons for Capers, but apparently not.

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The one veteran I would like to see us bring in is Ryan Clark. He isn't as great as he once was but he is still a productive player with incredible intangibles and character.
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The one veteran I would like to see us bring in is Ryan Clark. He isn't as great as he once was but he is still a productive player with incredible intangibles and character.
He seems like a Thompson type of player with that high character, Capers too.

If Peprah could help anchor a Super Bowl defense, I think Clark can.
As long as we don't have any road games in the Mile High city.
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It's either a rookie or Richardson. There are no other options. I absolutely guarantee it. Chris Clemons got basically a Vet Minimum from the Texans. If we wanted a FA on the cheap, it would have been him.
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I expect TT will end up taking a safety in the mid rounds and then bring in Clemons or DeCoud on the cheap.
He could have because Clemons was cheap: To the Texans. He already signed.
DeCoud was horrible last year though.... but still would be a starter for us right now.
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Curious: Is Michael Huff still a free agent?
He was a guy the Packers considered in that 2006 Draft along with Hawk, Vernon Davis, and Haloti Ngata.

He's been a bust.

But can't be any worse than what we had last year.
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Curious: Is Michael Huff still a free agent?
He was a guy the Packers considered in that 2006 Draft along with Hawk, Vernon Davis, and Haloti Ngata.

He's been a bust.

But can't be any worse than what we had last year.
He's listed on nfl.com as being a Bronco, but then also as a free agent safety. I know the Ravens had him last year and waived him early in the season and the Broncos picked him up.

Not sure if he's free or resigned but he damned sure doesn't appear in any 'best remaining' lists. Wasn't Huff a high 1st rounder back in the day with Oakland?
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We've had some surprising, shocking even, head-scratching picks before.

I can think of:

Justin Harrell
James Jones
Mike Neal
Jerron McMillian
Brian Brohm

Even last year, Datone Jones wasn't the guy you, we were all clamoring for.

Here's one from left field, I can see being that surprise pick somewhere for us, higher than any projections (like Jones, McMillian).

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/252750461.html



These pre-draft workouts are helping with that.

At 4.42 seconds, Brooks ran the fastest 40 at the NFL scouting combine. He also was tied for first in the vertical jump (38 inches) and fifth in the broad jump. The knock on Brooks is size — he measured in at 5-foot-11, 198 pounds. But within a top defense, Brooks covered slot receivers, roamed the box and had decent range.


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We've had some surprising, shocking even, head-scratching picks before.

I can think of:

Justin Harrell
James Jones
Mike Neal
Jerron McMillian
Brian Brohm

Even last year, Datone Jones wasn't the guy you, we were all clamoring for.

Here's one from left field, I can see being that surprise pick somewhere for us, higher than any projections (like Jones, McMillian).

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/252750461.html



These pre-draft workouts are helping with that.

At 4.42 seconds, Brooks ran the fastest 40 at the NFL scouting combine. He also was tied for first in the vertical jump (38 inches) and fifth in the broad jump. The knock on Brooks is size he measured in at 5-foot-11, 198 pounds. But within a top defense, Brooks covered slot receivers, roamed the box and had decent range.

I definitely wouldn't be shocked by that. I like Brooks, I think he's very good material for a FS. His biggest knock is that he dropped a number of INTs and he's not the best tackler. I would argue that Dion Bailey has a better shot of being the surprise guy, I definitely have him rated ahead of Brooks, but still in agreement that a surprise safety could be in order.

It will certainly be an interesting draft. We've been fairly predictable with our first round picks as of late, at least in terms of position if not players. We all thought an OLB was very likely when we took Perry, a Dlineman last year, offensive tackle the year we took Bulaga and Sherrod, NT and OLB when we took Raji/Matthews. None of those were at all surprises in terms of positional needs; I think the consensus had those positions as one of our top 2 needs going into the draft.

So with that said, I think safety is our absolutely stone-cold #1 need and it isn't close. ILB is a need but I question if we, like center, value it enough for a high pick. The rest of our front seven really doesn't have much room at this point; I'd consider Matthews, Perry, Peppers, Neal, Raji, Jones, Jolly, Daniels all locks to get substantial playing time and that's 8 players for 5 positions, 1 of which is highly situational.

CB is set.

Offensively, TE is probably our #2 need and definitely my darkhorse for our 1st round pick.

Anything besides Safety or TE and I will be absolutely shocked.
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I would argue that Dion Bailey has a better shot of being the surprise guy, I definitely have him rated ahead of Brooks, but still in agreement that a surprise safety could be in order.
TERRENCE BROOKS; 5-11, 198, 4.42, 31 arm, 38" vertical
DION BAILEY; 6-0, 201, 4.66, 32" arm, 34" vertical
CALVIN PRYOR; 5-11, 207, 4.58, 31 3/8 arm, 34.5" vertical

EARL THOMAS; 5-10, 208, 4.43, 31 1/4 arm, 32" vertical
Thomas is lean and not very tall and may not have the strength to make plays inside the box at the next level. Size will also limit effectiveness against larger inside receivers who can out muscle him for the ball.

Huff has struggled in the NFL to date. Much like Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson did with the Chiefs as top-ten picks in 08 & 09.
Yeah Michael Huff 6-0, 204, 4.34, 40" verticalwas a top-10 pick in the 06 Draft:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...torical/413238

Regarded by many as the hardest-hitting tackler of any secondary player in college football, Huff has drawn comparisons to Hall of Fame member Ronnie Lott for his ability as a playmaker to change the tide of a game. The versatile, athletic and speedy fifth-year defensive back became the first player in school history to win the Thorpe Award. Blessed with outstanding range and tremendous instincts, Huff has the ability to play any position in the secondary, having started 50 of 51 games during his career.

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Brooks provides plenty of versatility and has the ability to be an interchangeable safety. I think he would work best with a safety who patrols deep.
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Brooks provides plenty of versatility and has the ability to be an interchangeable safety. I think he would work best with a safety who patrols deep.
My problem with Brooks is his upside just isn't great. He'll probably be okay, but more of a really quality backup. He's not a ballhawk, he's not a great tackler and he's kind of just good but not great at most things.

Guys like Bucannon, Bailey, Ward, etc.. offer more upside in that draft range.
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Learn about all of them here.
We better take at least one of these guys.

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