Green Bay Packers Discussion

[TitleTown088]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3792518

Rodgers might have off-season shoulder surgery. Not good news but it can't be overly serious if they let him play through it all season, especially when the Packers were not longer in playoff contention.

[TitleTown088]

Originally Posted by GB12

Awesome. I don't like Colledge much at RT, but I'm excited to see Sitton play and Moll has been horrible.

I'm excited to see how the guys do, but whenever you're shuffling your O-line in week 17 it's not good news. Regardless of tauscher's injury. I expect something big on the O-line to be done this off season.

[tjsunstein]

Originally Posted by TitleTown088

I'm excited to see how the guys do, but whenever you're shuffling your O-line in week 17 it's not good news. Regardless of tauscher's injury. I expect something big on the O-line to be done this off season.

Jordan Gross. I'm calling it.

[TitleTown088]

We can only hope.

[PACKmanN]

Originally Posted by tjsunstein

Jordan Gross. I'm calling it.

if we put him at LT, then we will still have some problems. He a better linemen at the RT spot.

[TitleTown088]

Then put him at RT colledge at LT... It's also not a given that Cliffy is done.

Imagine if the Packers signed Gross then an LT fell in the draft. Or traded back an got Dukes Robinson. Sexy Oline.

[umphrey]

Shuffling the OL is just a try out for next year I'm sure.

If we draft OL I'm all about Jason Smith.

Smith - Colledge - Wells - Spitz - Gross

That would make for a damn good ZBS line. Colledge stays at LG in that scenario, but the final product is a slam dunk.

Otherwise I want a beastly pass rusher. Orakpo would be perfect. I think come April Orakpo will be pegged as going #2 or #3 and definitely out of our range without a trade.

Depending on what juniors declare this could be a really good year to get an awesome pass rusher for good value with our second rounder.

[princefielder28]

Justin Harrell is gonna require another back surgery after a recent setback.

What a waste!

[bigbuc]

Whats up with him guys? I loved him coming out... he was lights out. Just seems so ordinary now...

[The Legend]

Not in the right postion for the system

[TitleTown088]

Hawk has not played well that season, but you have to wonder how much of that has to do with the **** D line play. Good DT's would go along way helping him out.

Damn you Harrell.

[TitleTown088]

Meow...

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[Boston]

Can we all just ignore him?

[Smokey Joe]

I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you packer fans, but...

[AtariBigby]

We don't care about the Bears this week. They play Houston. I'd actually love to see the Bears win and the Vikings lose, but once again the Vikings get lucky.
They get the Giants on their one 'bye' week with nothing to play for.

Maybe the Vikings can win another game on a blocked FG that bounces right to Antoine Winfield for a return TD.
Or maybe win a game on a blindside sack by Winfield that knocks the ball from the QB and bounces right up to Winfield who returns it for another TD.
Or maybe they can win a game when the opposing kicker misses a FG just wide at the end of the game that saves the game.

I love the Bears compared to the Vikings, so fine, go Bears this week.

[Jpack18]

Originally Posted by AtariBigby

Did I tell the Bears fan not to come in here?
Or did I ask him WHY he was in here all the time?
You must still be a student, college or high school.

If you want more of the same, then fine, keep the same system again..... tell Bob Sanders to coach a little better.
Tell his players to try a little harder and be a little smarter. Perhaps, if he yells more, it will all be fixed next year.
Good idea. We'd hate to have to jettison guys like Brady Poppinga, Colin Cole, Justin Harrell, Brandon Chillar, Mike Montgomery because they're such good guys. I'd hate to replace them with some new blood fit for the 3-4. Bring em all back and cross your fingers that Jenkins doesn't get hurt again, because remember our defense was great in weeks 1-4 when CJ was still healthy, right?

I like that idea better

[tjsunstein]

Harrell and Jarret Bush continue to fight it out for least liked Packer this year.

[TitleTown088]

Originally Posted by AtariBigby

but once again the Vikings get lucky.

Are you referring to the Minnesota Vikings ? This scenario has a classic Viking implosion written all over it.

[PACKmanN]

Originally Posted by tjsunstein

Harrell and Jarret Bush continue to fight it out for least liked Packer this year.

you can add Tony Moll to that list.

[AtariBigby]

Justin Harrell is the 2nd highest pick that Thompson has made in his 4 years of drafting for this franchise.
AJ Hawk is the highest.

Tony Moll isn't in the same paragraph as those 2 picks.

Harrell is Ted Thompson's Jamal Reynolds/Joe Johnson. A total, 100% high waste. It's hard to recover from blunders like that, when his other highest pick, Hawk at #5, hasn't brought anything special either.

[TitleTown088]

I dislike Harell as well, but its too hard to call him a full bust yet. He surely has been disappointing. I think a certain (Al) DT who went to Tenn had similar struggles in the beginning of his career. Hopefully he can pt together a healthy off season and try to do soemthing next year.

[Yatta!]

Originally Posted by AtariBigby

Harrell is Ted Thompson's Jamal Reynolds/Joe Johnson. A total, 100% high waste. It's hard to recover from blunders like that, when his other highest pick, Hawk at #5, hasn't brought anything special either.

Are you suggesting that TT should go? TT's draft record is very solid overall, now I know that does not excuse the Harrell pick (who looks very much like a bust to me) but he has found some good players in the mid and late rounds.

[Twiddler]

Originally Posted by AtariBigby

Did I tell the Bears fan not to come in here?
Or did I ask him WHY he was in here all the time?
You must still be a student, college or high school.

Yes, you asked him why he was in here all the time, but in the same question you were essentially telling him to stay out of the Packers section. Its called reading between the lines, and that's what I did. Got a problem with it?

And what was the point of you posting the Harrell article? You highlighted that Packer fans didn't like the pick and that he has had some injuries, what's your point? Seriously, the fans will object some picks, and many times they will be wrong, because they are just fans (I bet most fans didn't like the Greg Jennings pick because he wasn't well known, that makes it a bad pick right?). Much like all of us, just fans, no matter how much you think you know. Seriously, who do you think you are? You talk about how you "knew better than our GM" in that situation, which is pretty ridiculous. Knew better? Compared to GM's, coaches, scouts, and many others in the Packers organization you knew better? How exactly did you know better? Seriously, I'd like to know. Then we could make you the GM of the Green Bay Packers where from what it sounds you would never miss on a pick and never have to deal with busts. Because you know everything.

And what's your deal with high picks? You ***** about how Hawk isn't amazing at this point (which he isn't) and Harrell isn't looking good but do you choose to ignore the many other players he has brought in in the later rounds? Is it because they aren't high picks that they're obviously worth less?

[tjsunstein]

There hasnt been very many picks that I have been exactly upset with in TT's time. Only ones that come to mind are Harrell [so far] and Brohm. Still don't know what the thought process was with Brohm.

[TitleTown088]

Brohm? Easy,the plan was to find a good backup.