Green Bay Packers Discussion - Page 450

02-26-2009, 09:10 PM

I have a problem with trading down. 1st we only fell out of the playoffs because our defense fell apart(i mean favre wasn't there). we can be right back in it this year if we win a couple of those close ones we lost last year. we also have the oppertunity to grab a imediate impact player while being a quality team. I haven't see other perinial playoff teams picking in the top ten of a strong draft. and 2nd there are quality guys to build lines that are not tony party mandrach, and atractive playmakers on defense in later rounds. Start sure early in the draft, and grab some giants out there. Size and Speed kill, we can teach awarness and technike. must have guys are mathews, usc safty, travis becham(home town hero, always need one), big ot, kick returner

PACKmanN · 02-26-2009, 09:17 PM

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I wish Jarrett Bush would **** off. Martin is a gazillion times better than him.

hopefully the secondary coach we got while Bush was in College can help him. He has talent but he needs to stop screwing up so much.

02-26-2009, 09:26 PM

i am so glad there is a chance to see jared bush go. he has been a no good waste of space the last two years. i think i saw frank walker in the superbowl playing dime corner or something. we got him as a FA and let him go for bush? TT just can't let go of his picks. o well

TitleTown088 · 02-26-2009, 09:51 PM

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I wish Jarrett Bush would **** off. Martin is a gazillion times better than him.

You can't pay a 5h wr that much money. Its more than Jennings or Jones makes.

jackalope · 02-26-2009, 10:23 PM

I love Ruvy, but he deserves the chance to go somewhere where he can get more time. I wouldn't be surprised to see him compete for a starting job somewhere. He's probably as good as anyone on the Bears' roster.

Yatta! · 02-27-2009, 06:14 AM

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You can't pay a 5h wr that much money. Its more than Jennings or Jones makes.

I agree but Bush is also not worth that money. I would be trying to get Martin signed to a longer deal or at least tender him so that we'd get something in return for him, there are plenty of teams who would be interested.

PACKmanN · 02-27-2009, 07:52 AM

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i am so glad there is a chance to see jared bush go. he has been a no good waste of space the last two years. i think i saw frank walker in the superbowl playing dime corner or something. we got him as a FA and let him go for bush? TT just can't let go of his picks. o well

lol, did you just make up that post to bash TT?

cuzifelt1ikeit · 02-27-2009, 10:09 AM

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This is as far back as I'm going. I think the OLBs (English Johnson, Barwin, matthews))available in round 2 aren't that far behind those in round 1. And we can pick up an OT in round 2 as well that can develop for a year (Kropog, Loadholt).

If we can get a DE, OLB, & OT in the first two rounds I can use the next 4 (2 in 3, 2 in 4), on a developmental CB, TE, NT, maybe a RB. Beyond that maybe the best available punter and then BPA.

I'm hoping Jackson will be there at 19 but if not then perhaps I'll go early on the OLB (Cushing) or the OT (Britton or Beatty). An oversized DE or undersized DT can then be grabbed in round 2 for the end opposite Jenkins.

cushing will play inside in a 3-4 i thought

Smokey · 02-27-2009, 10:20 AM

He played ILB, OLB, & DE at USC and is projected to be able to play any of the LB spots in a 4-3 or 3-4 - best suited as a SLb or 3-4 OLB. His combine numbers were very good. Scott Wright, however, doesn't seem too high on him.

02-27-2009, 10:28 AM

I really did see frank walker in the bowl. maybe for pitt. or the champ for balt. i forget. but i can't tell you how badly we need an impact player at 9. we should draft baji if they really think he can play. if hes not the next warren sapp then we should go ot. second and third round we get the tyson jackson type guys and the english or definatly can't miss on mathews. we need a playmaking saftey to make our d backfeild the best in the leage.

I think ian johnson would be a good pick in later rounds and so would travis becham. Ian is a great player for the city of GB. and travis becham is from Mil and that would be a great extra thing to the season. we make the playoffs this year and compete for a bowl next. come on capers lets make the city historic agian

PACKmanN · 02-27-2009, 10:33 AM

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I really did see frank walker in the bowl. maybe for pitt. or the champ for balt. i forget. but i can't tell you how badly we need an impact player at 9. we should draft baji if they really think he can play. if hes not the next warren sapp then we should go ot. second and third round we get the tyson jackson type guys and the english or definatly can't miss on mathews. we need a playmaking saftey to make our d backfeild the best in the leage.

I think ian johnson would be a good pick in later rounds and so would travis becham. Ian is a great player for the city of GB. and travis becham is from Mil and that would be a great extra thing to the season. we make the playoffs this year and compete for a bowl next. come on capers lets make the city historic agian

Frank Walker was playing for the Ravens and had a below average season. Bush was never drafted by TT, he was taken from the Panthers pratice squad.

- Our playmaking saftey is Collins
- Raji would be our Wilfork, we have no need for a Sapp type in the middle, even though it would be nice if he can get those sack numbers
- Harrell>Jackson. Tyson is getting so much hype for doing not much. English isn't someone I would take over Raji or Brown.

02-27-2009, 10:39 AM

i woud love raji. maybin , mathews, jenkins, michel johnson, orakpo, just not brown.

ImBrotherCain · 02-27-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by greenbaysurf

i woud love raji. maybin , mathews, jenkins, michel johnson, orakpo, just not brown.

See i personally think that Maybin is over rated...

I honestly see TT going OT in the first. I hope i am wrong seeing as the OT class is deep this year.

We could really use defensive help as you all know

02-27-2009, 10:51 AM

going ot or jenkins at nine is alright with me only if the next pick will be immidiate impact defensivly. and there are some targets in the 2nd that can be immidiate impact players. hope tt trys to get canty although it doesn't look good. that would help alot to have a provent three foour end in there.

Whistler6 · 02-27-2009, 12:02 PM

So I think it's quite obvious Ted won't overspend on overrated or aging players hit free agency.. I think he waits until later on in the summer when cuts happen. That or I think using one of Green Bay's 3rd rounders and a couple others to try and trade for a Tony Gonzalez, maybe even Shaun Rogers who wants out of Cleveland. That would be best scenario in my opinion. Although you never really know when Rogers will want to show up and play or not

Smokey · 02-27-2009, 12:59 PM

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So I think it's quite obvious Ted won't overspend on overrated or aging players hit free agency.. I think he waits until later on in the summer when cuts happen. That or I think using one of Green Bay's 3rd rounders and a couple others to try and trade for a Tony Gonzalez, maybe even Shaun Rogers who wants out of Cleveland. That would be best scenario in my opinion. Although you never really know when Rogers will want to show up and play or not

Don't know that KC will give up Gonzalez for a 3rd. TT offered that last year and was rebuffed. For what he would do for our offense I think he's well worth a 2nd.

Shaun Rogers I don't think will be moved. His vocalization on this brands him as a bit of a selfish player anyway.

I'd love to make a run at Jim Leonard as a starter and Igor Olshansky and Kevin Burnett as potential starters or backups.

mqtirishfan · 02-27-2009, 03:20 PM

My dream would be:

1) Brian Orakpo
2) Jarron Gilbert
3) Best DT available.

TitleTown088 · 02-27-2009, 03:21 PM

Apparently Packers are interested in Canty and have contacted his agent.

princefielder28 · 02-27-2009, 03:25 PM

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Apparently Packers are interested in Canty and have contacted his agent.

Great news! Let's see if it goes anywhere.

PACKmanN · 02-27-2009, 04:15 PM

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Apparently Packers are interested in Canty and have contacted his agent.

nnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooo, save the money for Jason Taylor!

TitleTown088 · 02-27-2009, 04:15 PM

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Great news! Let's see if it goes anywhere.

haha, probably not.

GB12 · 02-27-2009, 04:19 PM

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nnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooo, save the money for Jason Taylor!

That'd be incredibly stupid. Canty would be a much better signing. Out of all the free agents that actually hit the market Canty is the best player for us.

PACKmanN · 02-27-2009, 04:21 PM

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That'd be incredibly stupid. Canty would be a much better signing. Out of all the free agents that actually hit the market Canty is the best player for us.

Canty is going to get 50-60 million. A 3-4 DE shouldn't make that much.

TitleTown088 · 02-27-2009, 04:39 PM

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nnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooo, save the money for Jason Taylor!

Jason taylor is old as hell and played in like 3 games last season. Canty would be a much better signing.

umphrey · 02-27-2009, 04:43 PM

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Canty is going to get 50-60 million. A 3-4 DE shouldn't make that much.

I doubt it. Probably 5 years 40 mil, and you have to consider that payroll has gone up considerably the last few years. Every year there is a new highest paid player in the league.

SALARY CAP - MOST
Tampa Bay — $61 million
Kansas City — $57 million
Philadelphia — $48 million
Denver — $37 million
Green Bay — $34 million

We are the only team on that list to not sign anyone. We haven't even written extensions since long before the end of the season outside of small RFA tenders. I'd be happy if we just extended Jennings and signed a middle tier FA like C.C. Brown.