Green Bay Packers Discussion - Page 492

ChezPower4 · 07-28-2009, 01:23 AM

I also think that with the new o-line changes that Grant has a great chance to bounce back and have a very productive season. TT088 was on to something when he said the Packers like to pass.

TitleTown088 · 07-28-2009, 04:08 PM

No Favre to Vikings? Excellent.

Boston · 07-28-2009, 04:24 PM

Good. Maybe now the healing can begin.

cvv84 · 07-28-2009, 04:40 PM

I'll believe it when the season is over. Never say never with Favre.

ChezPower4 · 07-28-2009, 07:47 PM

I really hope that this is for good. Favre would have lost a lot of points in my book had he gone and played for the Vikings.

GB12 · 07-28-2009, 09:00 PM

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I really hope that this is for good. Favre would have lost a lot of points in my book had he gone and played for the Vikings.

He already did lose a lot of points in my book for pulling this **** in the first place. Actually going to the Vikings would have made it worse, but a ton of damage has been done already.

princefielder28 · 07-28-2009, 10:55 PM

What was/is the big deal about Favre going to the Vikings? He was a free agent who wanted to be in a situation where he could have one last chance at winning a Super Bowl. So what if it was the Vikings that he was going to. Last year the Packers made an obligation to Aaron Rodgers and that leaves Favre to do what he wants. But it's the Vikings!!! Who gives a damn! Yes the Vikings are a rival but there have been plenty of players who have switched to teams to their rival. (Johnny Damon went to the Evil Empire but look at it now, no one cares). The whole losing points in various people's books is really laughable. It's a big decision whether or not to continue a way of life that you've known for over 20 years and turning the book to retirement. Has it been drawn out too much? Of course but ESPN and other media networks are just as much to blame as Favre himself; they cover him because he sells even if he's not making any noise. I know this is a bit of a rant but it's annoying to come on here and continually read stupid **** like that.

Let's remember Favre as the player that brought relevance in football back to Green Bay and over that course of time he was one of the greatest to ever play the position of quarterback.

TitleTown088 · 07-29-2009, 12:24 AM

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What was/is the big deal about Favre going to the Vikings? He was a free agent who wanted to be in a situation where he could have one last chance at winning a Super Bowl. So what if it was the Vikings that he was going to. Last year the Packers made an obligation to Aaron Rodgers and that leaves Favre to do what he wants. But it's the Vikings!!! Who gives a damn! Yes the Vikings are a rival but there have been plenty of players who have switched to teams to their rival. (Johnny Damon went to the Evil Empire but look at it now, no one cares). The whole losing points in various people's books is really laughable. It's a big decision whether or not to continue a way of life that you've known for over 20 years and turning the book to retirement. Has it been drawn out too much? Of course but ESPN and other media networks are just as much to blame as Favre himself; they cover him because he sells even if he's not making any noise. I know this is a bit of a rant but it's annoying to come on here and continually read stupid **** like that.

Let's remember Favre as the player that brought relevance in football back to Green Bay and over that course of time he was one of the greatest to ever play the position of quarterback.

Valid point, but Johnny Damon is no Brett Favre.

ChezPower4 · 07-29-2009, 02:29 AM

Most Red Soxs fans don't like Johnny Damon anymore.

princefielder28 · 07-29-2009, 09:24 AM

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Valid point, but Johnny Damon is no Brett Favre.

It shouldn't matter that it's Brett Favre. Yeah he was the face of the franchise for a decade and a half, but after last offseason he had no obligation to the Packers after they shut the door on him. The Packers moved on and it's not fair to say where he can and can't play. Whether it's the best player on the roster or the 53rd man, if a team moves on and thinks they're better off without you, you have no reason to limit where you may play in the future because of your past connections.

Another thing, I hope they don't sign him to a one day contract so he can retire as a Packer. It's one of the stupidest things in sport, having a player "retire" with THEIR team.

jackalope · 07-29-2009, 11:17 AM

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It shouldn't matter that it's Brett Favre. Yeah he was the face of the franchise for a decade and a half, but after last offseason he had no obligation to the Packers after they shut the door on him. The Packers moved on and it's not fair to say where he can and can't play. Whether it's the best player on the roster or the 53rd man, if a team moves on and thinks they're better off without you, you have no reason to limit where you may play in the future because of your past connections.

Another thing, I hope they don't sign him to a one day contract so he can retire as a Packer. It's one of the stupidest things in sport, having a player "retire" with THEIR team.

You don't think Favre wanted to play specifically for the Vikings so he could stick it to Ted Thompson? I think the fact that he seems to want to get back at the organization is a large part of why people lost respect for him.

ChezPower4 · 07-29-2009, 12:46 PM

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You don't think Favre wanted to play specifically for the Vikings so he could stick it to Ted Thompson?

That is why I was upset about the Favre thing. If he just didn't say anything about it I really wouldn't have cared.

cvv84 · 07-29-2009, 01:01 PM

I know it would never happen, but I think it would be awesome to sign Favre as a backup. Flynn and Brohm are iffy if we ever have to resort to them and we could trot Favre out there to take the final snaps of wins like they did when Doug Peterson was ending his career.

princefielder28 · 07-29-2009, 01:17 PM

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You don't think Favre wanted to play specifically for the Vikings so he could stick it to Ted Thompson? I think the fact that he seems to want to get back at the organization is a large part of why people lost respect for him.

Part of Brett's motivation was to stick it to Ted Thompson but I would not say the main reason to play was based off revenge. Brett was treated unkindly by the organization before he left and I can not fault him for some of his ill will towards Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy.

ChezPower4 · 07-29-2009, 03:08 PM

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I know it would never happen, but I think it would be awesome to sign Favre as a backup. Flynn and Brohm are iffy if we ever have to resort to them and we could trot Favre out there to take the final snaps of wins like they did when Doug Peterson was ending his career.

Brett would never except a backup role with the Packers. Plus that would be a media nightmare.

GB12 · 07-29-2009, 04:52 PM

I guess no matter what Favre does there will always be a group of fans sucking on his nuts.

JF4 · 07-29-2009, 05:13 PM

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Part of Brett's motivation was to stick it to Ted Thompson but I would not say the main reason to play was based off revenge. Brett was treated unkindly by the organization before he left and I can not fault him for some of his ill will towards Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy.

Brett Favre brought that treatment upon himself by leaving the organization in a no win situation. If he would've handled the whole ordeal with some class and not hid behind all the rumors/******** that were flying around this would've been a much less tense situation.

cvv84 · 07-29-2009, 09:09 PM

Michael Oher signed which is good news for the Packers. Oher was the 23rd overall pick while Clay Matthews was the 26th.

princefielder28 · 07-29-2009, 09:31 PM

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I guess no matter what Favre does there will always be a group of fans sucking on his nuts.

Think what you want

Ryan Grant made an appearance with Colin Cowherd recently, sounds pretty optimistic about the season

http://sports.espn.go.com/stations/player?id=4345672

ChezPower4 · 07-29-2009, 09:35 PM

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Michael Oher signed which is good news for the Packers. Oher was the 23rd overall pick while Clay Matthews was the 26th.

It's amazing how many first rounders are still unsigned. I think we can get Raji signed pretty quickly once someone around him signs. It seem like no one in the Top 10 want to be the first to flinch and sign first.

cvv84 · 07-30-2009, 10:58 AM

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It's amazing how many first rounders are still unsigned. I think we can get Raji signed pretty quickly once someone around him signs. It seem like no one in the Top 10 want to be the first to flinch and sign first.

Heyward-Bey finally signed and Jason Smith is rumored to be close to a deal. I'm not that concerned with getting Raji in camp on time, its Matthews that I want in camp ASAP.

Josh Freeman has been also rumored to have signed. Luckily we don't have an early camp this year.

TitleTown088 · 07-30-2009, 11:25 AM

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Heyward-Bey finally signed and Jason Smith is rumored to be close to a deal. I'm not that concerned with getting Raji in camp on time, its Matthews that I want in camp ASAP.

Josh Freeman has been also rumored to have signed. Luckily we don't have an early camp this year.

Raji needs to learn two positions and Matthews isn't even starting as of now...

umphrey · 07-30-2009, 12:21 PM

Matthews was signed per JSOnline blog.

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According to an NFL source with knowledge of the deal, the base portion of the five-year deal is worth $10 million and there will be an opportunity for him to earn $13.275 million overall.

Those numbers sound really good for us

cvv84 · 07-30-2009, 12:23 PM

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Raji needs to learn two positions and Matthews isn't even starting as of now...

Raji just eats up blockers and he's been practicing primarily at end - which is where he's going to play the majority of the season. Matthews missed a ton of time at the OTAs and yes, he isn't a starter, all the more reason to get into camp on time.

cvv84 · 07-30-2009, 12:24 PM

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Matthews was signed per JSOnline blog.

Those numbers sound really good for us

I'm just glad they got him signed in time. 1 to go!