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Old 12-19-2010, 04:33 PM    (permalink
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Didn't really matter assuming we beat the Giants next week (which we need to to even have a prayer, regardless.)

Giants, Bucs, AND Saints all lost. Wow. I do believe as of this moment we technically control our wild-card destiny. GOOO FLYYNNN!
Even if we lose tonight, we will control our own destiny for the wildcard. Hopefully the Giants have all the air taken out of them for our matchup next week after giving up a three touchdown lead to the Eagles today.
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no gameday thread? don't quote me on this, but I think the Packers actually pull out a hard fought upset, 13-3. The Pats lack a pass rush, Spikes is suspended i believe, so lets test the front 7's sideline-to-sideline speed in the run game and passing game. Also, lets go back old school with quick slants, it's a zone team with DBs that play away from the receivers.

Burn the clock, keep the ball out of Flynn's hands and lets hope Collins, Williams, and Woodson can do some special stuff for us. Collins always has some big takeaways late in the season that builds momentum.
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It was:
1. Favre
2. Manning
3. Manning
4. Rivers
5. Rodgers

Of course 1 and 5 are done now.

It was much better for us to have the Giants lose. We get to play them next week, and if we win we'll have the same record (unless Flynn magically beats New England) and we'll have the tiebreaker.

And it's nice of the Lions to help us out after last week.

All of a sudden things aren't looking as bad, but damn we could have been in complete control.
Yup. With the way things look now.. had we beat the Lions we probably would have only needed 1 of the last three. Now we need at least 2. Sigh.
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What's Nick Collins' status?
Have we lost yet another defensive stud?
Another safety?
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What's Nick Collins' status?
Have we lost yet another defensive stud?Another safety?
If only that were true this season :\


Last I heard he was getting x-rays on his ribs.
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If only that were true this season :\
Last I heard he was getting x-rays on his ribs.
Fortunately, x-rays came back negative.

Maybe we won't have to IR anyone this week!
Things might be turning around.
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Okay. So. The Bears win tonight and have clinched the division.

If we win our last two, we will make the playoffs as a wild card.

However, the Giants will be playing for their playoff life next week and the Bears will be playing for a bye week 17 (unless they win and the Eagles lose next week, in which case the Bears will have clinched the #2 seed thanks to head-to-head win; thusly this is the scenario we must root for as they would be very likely to rest starters.)

The key is we control our own destiny thanks to a game against the Giants this week and better tie-breakers across the board then the Bucs.

It's also possible we make the playoffs if we win this week and lose against the Bears, but we will be eliminated from contention with a loss this week.

We will play either the Eagles or Bears if we make it, although it won't be a situation of playing the Bears resting starters then full strength ala Arizona last year as the only way the Bears rest starters week 17 is if they've clinched the bye. It's more likely we play the Eagles at this point, which scares the piss out of me.

So key points;
Root for us.
Root against the Giants.
Root against the Eagles.
Root against the Bucs.
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Eagles fan here. We're not going to lose the next two games, so we'll (98% likelihood, at least) end up 12-4 and looking for a #2 seed.

We need your team to knock off the Bears in Week 17 so they'll finish with an 11-5 record and allow us to secure that playoff bye. Do we have a deal?
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just wondering what everyone else thinks, and something to discuss before the next game, but should Rodgers be placed on the IR for the rest of the season just so he doesn't suffer a 3rd concussion in such little time? It's bad weather in December and January which causes the grass to freeze, one hit and he could suffer another one(knock on wood.) We all know he isn't safe behind this teams offensive line, so why risk possibly losing a franchise qb over the playoffs?
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Eagles fan here. We're not going to lose the next two games, so we'll (98% likelihood, at least) end up 12-4 and looking for a #2 seed.

We need your team to knock off the Bears in Week 17 so they'll finish with an 11-5 record and allow us to secure that playoff bye. Do we have a deal?
Should have taken care of your own dirty work back in week 12.
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Isn't there a chance we can slide up to the #5 seed?
If we win both games, both key NFC games, while they lose both games (to Atlanta & Tampa Bay)?
Long shot I know... but we'd both be 10-6 with an 8-4 NFC record.

The #5 seed will get to play the horse schit NFC West winner whereas the #6 seed will have to play the Bears (or Eagles unlikely).

It was weird last night early watching the Vikings and rooting for them... actually bitching at big fat lazy Bryant McKinnie for letting the guy go around and crush Favre.

More luck for the Bears that they didn't even have to face Adrian Peterson, who has killed them in the past. And then getting Joe Webb too.

We failed our one time against a 3rd string QB in Detroit, but the Bears are like 5-0 this year playing against teams missing their #1 QB.
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Eagles fan here. We're not going to lose the next two games, so we'll (98% likelihood, at least) end up 12-4 and looking for a #2 seed.

We need your team to knock off the Bears in Week 17 so they'll finish with an 11-5 record and allow us to secure that playoff bye. Do we have a deal?
You're right.... you have 2 homes games in Philly there, against 2 teams that are dead. Minnesota is basically a bye for you. They are terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible now. What the hell happened to their defense? And now a terrible athletic QB there.

Then you get Dallas who you killed in Dallas 2 weeks ago.

I'm still pissed off that the Bears, and refs, beat us back in week 3.
Watch this and pause it at exactly the 1:03 mark. Focus on Hawk. He is running forward.
The Bears guy blocks him from the back-left, and Hawk goes flying 5 yards. Forward.

How is that not an illegal block in the back, other than the fact that it's the Bears?
Those damn refs took away 2 Ints for us and 1 TD for us. But they let that go? We always get called for special teams blocking penalties.

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Should have taken care of your own dirty work back in week 12.
Yeah, Way to go Eagles! You let a team that didn't have a signature win all season beat you when your team is better on both sides of the ball.

Bears are a house of cards that has gotten very lucky this season. However they have won the games they were supposed to and the Packers couldn't take care of biz against Miami, Washington, and Det.
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Yeah, Way to go Eagles! You let a team that didn't have a signature win all season beat you when your team is better on both sides of the ball.
Trust me, it wasn't easy watching Cutler carve up our pitiful secondary and have himself a "career day" either.

That's why I would like nothing more than to see Cutler sacked into oblivion by your defense in Week 17, and to see Lovie Smith's team forced to play in the wild-card round this year and, hopefully, lose to the Saints/Packers/Giants at home in the first round.
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Maybe beat the Lions first.
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Maybe beat the Lions first.
chances TT hires Tony Sparano, if he's fired, as the o-line this offseason since the original coaches haven't done a good job developing the talent he's brought in? That alone could do wonders for us.
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They aren't going to fire him and no coach can help this offensive line. I don't understand what some of you are thinking - thats is the players and not the scheme. The scheme uses certain types of players and those are the players that we have. You aren't going to find some brute, agile offensive lineman just laying around. Its generally one or the other. Brute strength doesn't mean **** when you're cutting a defenders legs.
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They aren't going to fire him and no coach can help this offensive line. I don't understand what some of you are thinking - thats is the players and not the scheme. The scheme uses certain types of players and those are the players that we have. You aren't going to find some brute, agile offensive lineman just laying around. Its generally one or the other. Brute strength doesn't mean **** when you're cutting a defenders legs.
I'm pretty sure they cut the ZBS and went with more of a power attack. Not only that, but who could you say that has really developed to what we excepted out of them? Sitton came out of the blue, Colledge/Spitz both look like busts, Bagula is always having his moments where he shines and than makes a mistake, and Lang/Newhouse are question marks.

I think the team has the future tackles in place with Baugla and Lang and with Sitton as the future LG, but the team needs depth and 2 starters at C and RG.

It's either the talent or coaches and honestly, I would rather rebuild both at once
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I'm pretty sure they cut the ZBS and went with more of a power attack. Not only that, but who could you say that has really developed to what we excepted out of them? Sitton came out of the blue, Colledge/Spitz both look like busts, Bagula is always having his moments where he shines and than makes a mistake, and Lang/Newhouse are question marks.

I think the team has the future tackles in place with Baugla and Lang and with Sitton as the future LG, but the team needs depth and 2 starters at C and RG.

It's either the talent or coaches and honestly, I would rather rebuild both at once
They're running more power schemes but primarily its the ZBS.

I kind of expected Sitton to become something. He fits that mold of a guy who can play in both a power and ZBS. Spitz would be a solid starter if he could stay healthy. Colledge was a poor pick at the time considering Marcus McNeil was available.

The only position I feel satisfied with is at RG with Sitton. It would be foolish to start moving him around IMO. We need to lock Bulaga into a position at either LT or RT.
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Hawk is blocked at the Packers 40 yard line, while Hester is at the Bears 40 yard line, so 20 yards difference.
Hawk goes flying forward 5 yards.

It may not have been in the spine area of the back, but that's an illegal block in the back.

I've seen the Packers called for that same penalty dozens of times, less obvious than this one.

Bitter? Of course.
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Maybe beat the Lions first.
hey, we can't all pay off the refs twice a year :)



















*hoping 51 senses the lack of seriousness in my typing..don't wanna be the '***** about the refs guy'*
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god damn right *************.


I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.
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god damn right *************.


I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.
Hopefully Rodgers is clear and he isn't hiding it off
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I wish we weren't facing a Giants team with their backs against the wall this week. Make no mistake about it this is absolutely a playoff game. It's essentially the play in for the 6th seed because both teams are win and in, lose and out, no exceptions. Well the exception is that we still have to win week 17 and the Giants could still possibly get in with a loss and a win with help, but I guarantee you neither side is looking at it like that in any way shape or form.
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