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Old 02-09-2008, 05:46 PM    (permalink
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Interesting. I thought it would be Fassel.
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Interesting. I thought it would be Fassel.
Same here I really dont get it..Did Fassel not have alot to do with the hireing of the O and D cordnaters?
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Well that's......interesting. Another extension of the Holmgren (via Bill Walsh) coaching tree
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I can see that..
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Seems like there was pretty slim pickings this year with all the big time assistants staying with their teams.
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Wow a promotion from Offensive Coordinator to Head Coach in 2 weeks? Thats special.........
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Honestly, I'm left wondering if/when Snyder pulls the hook on Zorn a year from now, for a flashier head coach (Cowher at the top of the list). Meanwhile, credit waste of space Vinny Cerrato for succeeding in installing a head coach who won't be a threat to him.
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I think it's a little unfair to immediately write the guy off. He's worked with smart people. I'll reserve judgement until I see his press conference.
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Hey maybe it's just me, but I'm hella happier with him that Jim Fassell. I wanted to go after Meeks but lets wait and see on Zorn.
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Yea i hated Fassell in NY, i forget why, but i know that you're probably better off with Zorn. I remember when Fassell got fired last year i think from the Raven's OC job, and Billick took over play calling.
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Well, Mike Smith is no Spags but I feel better about Smith than I would about Zorn.
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Well, Mike Smith is no Spags but I feel better about Smith than I would about Zorn.
I wouldn't....I think Zorn is really an underestimated coach. I was hoping for the past year or two to see him get a coordinator's spot and give him that platform to maybe test head coaching waters one day, and two weeks ago he got that chance, and now today he's the head coach of the Washington Redskins.

When Matt Hasselbeck arrived in Seattle Mike Holmgren knew that he had a QB with potential and someone he saw as a reliable starter. With the work of Jim Zorn Hasselbeck has become a Pro Bowl caliber QB and one hell of a QB. I'm very interested to see what he can do with Jason Campbell; who I believe could have a higher ceiling that what Hasselbeck has achieved.

I'm happy for the man and I think Redskins fans should be joyous with their head coach.
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anyone think theres an outside shot of fassell somehow being named o-coordinator now?

i think itd be weird as all hell but i wouldn't rule it out....
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I wouldn't....I think Zorn is really an underestimated coach. I was hoping for the past year or two to see him get a coordinator's spot and give him that platform to maybe test head coaching waters one day, and two weeks ago he got that chance, and now today he's the head coach of the Washington Redskins.

When Matt Hasselbeck arrived in Seattle Mike Holmgren knew that he had a QB with potential and someone he saw as a reliable starter. With the work of Jim Zorn Hasselbeck has become a Pro Bowl caliber QB and one hell of a QB. I'm very interested to see what he can do with Jason Campbell; who I believe could have a higher ceiling that what Hasselbeck has achieved.

I'm happy for the man and I think Redskins fans should be joyous with their head coach.
When Smith arrived the Jaguars defense went from bad to good. It was in the top-12 more often than not. The defense was good even with injuries. He was responsible for the defense, Zorn for a QB. Holmgren was a QB guru and given credit. Jack Del Rio was a defensive guy and given credit.

There are similarities but all in all I think Smith is more experienced and he was responsible for more of a team than Zorn. He also has a Superbowl ring from when he was with the Ravens as the defensive line coach.
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When Smith arrived the Jaguars defense went from bad to good. It was in the top-12 more often than not. The defense was good even with injuries. He was responsible for the defense, Zorn for a QB. Holmgren was a QB guru and given credit. Jack Del Rio was a defensive guy and given credit.

There are similarities but all in all I think Smith is more experienced and he was responsible for more of a team than Zorn. He also has a Superbowl ring from when he was with the Ravens.
I'm not knocking Smith's ability to coach, but the pieces that he was given to work with in Jacksonville were pretty solid, and now he heads to Atlanta where there are glaring holes throughout the team. Jim Zorn walks into a situation where the pieces on offense are very good and he has the chance to be successful right away. Mike Smith will help improve the Falcons organization, but he's not the coach that'll get them to the a playoff caliber team again.
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I'm not knocking Smith's ability to coach, but the pieces that he was given to work with in Jacksonville were pretty solid, and now he heads to Atlanta where there are glaring holes throughout the team. Jim Zorn walks into a situation where the pieces on offense are very good and he has the chance to be successful right away. Mike Smith will help improve the Falcons organization, but he's not the coach that'll get them to the a playoff caliber team again.
That is not the point, the point is who would be better stepping in to the same job. I would take Joe Somebody in New England for 2008 over Bill Belichick in Miami for 2008.

Also, the past two years the Jaguars have had some injuries at MLB, DT, etc etc. He has had some pieces but I would not say there are many standout players on that defense outside of Rashean Mathis and the defensive tackles.
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Here is my opinion. Snyder did not want to get rid of the staff of coaches they currently have because to do so would mean a great deal of buy-outs ($'s). So none of the "candidates" they interviewed until now (Steve Mariucci, Ron Meeks, Pete Carroll , Jim Schwartz, Gregg Williams, Jim Mora and Steve Spagnuolo) would agree to come in and keep the current staff and not bring in their own guys. Snyder seems to not want to to hire someone who will run the show - he seems to want to hire someone who will run his show. With that in mind, this was the first coach that agreed to keep the same staff - "we will hire you but you cannot make GM decisions or coach decisions" - sounds alot like AL DAVIS.... Thus - as he agreed to the terms of being a lame duck coach - they hired him. It sounds a lot like Dan Snyder will be wearing Elvis glasses and Members club jackets in about 40 years just like AL. This NFC East just got a lot weaker tonight!
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Ive been reading that Snyder may have cooled on Fassel after hearing the public reaction, which was pretty unanimous as not wanting him to be the coach. There must have been some bad blood to choose Jim Zorn over Gregg Williams as head coach though, but lets se how he does first,he has a talented team to work with...
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Truly a WTF moment.

Has this guy even called plays before?
He was offensive coordinator at Utah State from 1992-1994.

Calling plays is not the only requirement for being a head coach, however. And as a rookie head coach, he's probably not going to call plays anyways, so it doesn't really matter.
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