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Old 02-23-2008, 01:38 PM    (permalink
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As a Browns fan, I am willing to part with him if we can get good draft picks. Anyone out there not a Browns fan, and needs a QB, would you want DA? And what would you give up for him?!....
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Does he really want a 6 year $68 million dollar deal? That is just absurd. He thinks he deserves a Romo eqsue contract which is laughable at this point.
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If im Cleveland, I don't extend him. I think he's a one year wonder. Quinn will be the better qb, and cheaper too.

Trade Anderson while his stock is still high.
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id sign him to a 2 year deal prolly and shop him next year if he still does above average, if i was the the browns
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If they can get anywhere in the neighborhood of what Atlanta got for Schaub then take it. Quinn is going to be more consistent over the future and like some others have said he may be a one-year wonder.

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Derek Anderson is a Restricted Free Agent, correct? Give him the highest possible tender, and make a team who wants him have to give you 1st and 3rd RD picks in order to sign him, or work out a deal similar to Schaub's deal like PF28 said.

If no team bites or is willing to trade what you're looking for, you keep Anderson for one more year and let him walk next offseason. You keep the good QB for one more season, and allow Quinn to keep learning. Probably slip Quinn into some games at the end of the season, or in the course of the season if a game is already in the bag or if the team is being blown out in the 4th QTR.

If I'm Savage, I'm trying to trade Derek Anderson. I think he was exposed in the latter 2nd half of the season, and likely will be exposed again next season. The only thing is, will an inexperienced Brady Quinn hamper the chances of the Browns making the Playoffs?
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Anderson started out the season looking as if he would finish a top 5 QB but his 2nd half #s were very average at best. He threw many ints and was not nearly the player he had been. some people may think it would be crazy to trade him because he is a 'proven thing'- but Quinn def has more potential, a bigger arm. The browns should trade him and get the most value for him right now, because next year he could be an unknown
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The Browns problem is that regardless of what they're "officially" saying they are trying to move him on and everbody knows it. If I'm another team I'm not going to offer too much and get stung. They also cant really tender him with a 1st and 3rd because the ask is simply too great. The deal is going to have to be a more win : win in my mind for both teams
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I'd give both Atlanta's second round picks for Brady Quinn, but not Derek Anderson.
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but Anderson could have starting playoff quarterback on his resume had the officails not blown that end of game winning Winslow TD against Arizona. The play that was a force-out but wasn't called.

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I think they are legitimately willing to let him play one more year, give Quinn another year to groom, and let him walk if need be.

The biggest concern the Browns have right now is the huge PR hit they will take if BA isn't the system QB everyone thinks he is, and Quinn turns out to be a dud. The Browns have been back for almost a decade and have essentially sucked in each of those years, they can't roll the dice too much for fear of sinking the whole ship.
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I think they are legitimately willing to let him play one more year, give Quinn another year to groom, and let him walk if need be.

The biggest concern the Browns have right now is the huge PR hit they will take if BA isn't the system QB everyone thinks he is, and Quinn turns out to be a dud. The Browns have been back for almost a decade and have essentially sucked in each of those years, they can't roll the dice too much for fear of sinking the whole ship.
slippery road no doubt. Everyone kind of looks to the chargers as the blue print and says that everything turned out okay for them, then it should for the Browns, which is definitely not a gaurentee. In addition, the salary figures of the players involved are very different, and that is something that people tend to overlook.

One thing Quinn would have on his side are the talented skill position players surrounding him. But needless to say, that doesn't gaurentee success.
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If im Cleveland, I don't extend him. I think he's a one year wonder. Quinn will be the better qb, and cheaper too.

Trade Anderson while his stock is still high.
Agreed right now Cleveland cold probably get 2 second round picks and a second day pick for him.

If he bombs next season they won't get much more than a pittance.
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I think taking it slow with another year is probably the best bet. You tender him as already suggested with the highest tender and if someone ends up giving him a massive contract, so be it. If not, you play out the 2008 season and you'll get more of a chance to see if Anderson is for real or not. I would guess he's not. And if he does come out and flop, then Cleveland will clamber for Quinn. If, however, he shows improvement on this season, you extend him with a long term deal and find a trade partner for Quinn.
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I'd take Carl Nicks and Josh Johnson and trump Brady Quinn...or I'd take Philip Wheeler and Ray Rice and trump Brady...too many good players to give up 2 2nd round picks this year, especially since one of them is like #35 overall...no thanks to that.
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I'd say Anderson's resume is a little more impressive than what Schaub's was last year. Schaub was entirely unproven, Anderson's not. If he's traded it will be for a better deal then what Schaub was traded for.
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Brady would be our pick if he was in this draft. And if not he would go top-10. Two seconds for him is a steal. Josh Johnson would be a joke compared to him, and Nicks is a right tackle. Wheeler and Rice? Where does that leave us at QB?

Brady would be a steal for two second round picks.
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would i take him? yeah sure, why not. its hard to be worse that grossman.

is it gonna happen? no....because cleveland wants too much for him and he wants too much money. those are no no's in my book
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I dont think they should get anxious and trade him now, keeping him is more important. Stability at the qb position, Quinn sitting another year and learning the offense, and giving your franchise qb two years to sit can only help him...Just tender DA, you may not get a team to bite, and you may not get to trade him, but either way your franchise is in a good position this way, unless they want to roll the dice and trade him now and build the defense to help Quinn.
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Anderson and the Browns want too much, no incentive for another team to go after him when you have to overpay twice.
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Anderson's whole season was terribly inconsistent. He padded his stats against poor defenses - 109+ QB ratings against the Rams, Dolphins, Bengals and Baltimore (who didn't have a good pass D), and other decent ratings against the Texans and Jets. In fact, the *only* team he even had a 80+ rating against that was any good last season was the Steelers. And then of course he finished terribly against the Bills and Bengals which cost the Browns a playoff spot.

He's young and has loads of potential, but he's nothing more than an average QB with awesome surrounding talent and a great pass blocking OL right now IMO. If you can get a 1st for that, the Browns should jump at it like crazy.
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Vikings, Ravens, Falcons, Bears

Vikings - Brad Childress seems to love Travis Jackson
Ravens - Dont see them giving up a 2nd Round and they dont have a 3 and 5
Falcons - Maybe could happen if they want to get back on track quick, cost?
Bears - They have two 3rd round picks, but i think the browns hold him to high
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I remember when the chargers were in the same position and let brees go in favor of phil rivers. imo brees is a better qb than rivers so the browns are in a slippery spot. if im phil savage i try to trade anderson... i agree with oz, andersons season was terribly inconsistent so i dont think hes as valuable as schaub. maybe a low 1st round pick and a second but i dont think hes as valuable as the browns seem to think. b quinn will eventually get a chance so i try to trade anderson...
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Old 02-26-2008, 06:47 PM    (permalink
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ugh the Vikes better not trade for him. Hes a complete one year wonder, and wasn't even as good last year as people make him out to be. He was good, not great.
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Sell, sell, sell. Anderson is a one-year-wonder. Send him back to Baltimore or somewhere.
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