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Old 02-26-2008, 01:02 AM    (permalink
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Am I the only one who finds it a bit funny that last year the Jags signed an older quick/deep threat who had trouble catching the ball in Dennis Northcutt, only to now trade for a younger quick/deep threat who has trouble catching the ball in Williamson?

Jags fans ribbing aside, I'm intrigued if a team could develop Williamson further. That would be great if they could. I would have been very interested to see what the Colts could have done, but to be honest, I'm content with them picking up Courtney Roby who wasn't a fit with in Norm Chow's offense in Tennessee. I think they picked up a sleeper there.

Also, forget this noise about Williamson anyways. Mike Walker arrives this season, pls blv.
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They also drafted Derek "I'm going to throw the ball into the DB's hands" Hagan from ASU. =D
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Old 02-26-2008, 01:06 AM    (permalink
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Right state, wrong team, TP. That would be the Miami Dolphins.
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In his defense he has a very good work ethic the same things were said about Chris Carter at one time. "ALl he catches is TDS" but uhm Troy doesnt really do that either. he has to be active to do that. The guy runs like the wind and catches the football as though it were water the ball just seems to slide through his hands.
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The Vikings should of traded him him for Jones then maybe hed a beat Jackson out at qb again.
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Right state, wrong team, TP. That would be the Miami Dolphins.
I was thinking of Dirk Koetter for a second. Man, ASU is taking over Florida. Koetter at Jacksonville, Hagan in Miami, Jake the Snake at Tampa Bay (sort of). I would laugh if the Jags draft Sam Keller.
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The Vikings should of traded him him for Jones then maybe hed a beat Jackson out at qb again.
Confirmed, they can run the Wing T offense ftw.
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I believe the rule of wrs is that you can work on their hands and develop their catching skills.

I also believe Troy Williamson is an exception to that rule.
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I lol'ed. Nice job, rook.
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Maybe they just want to look after MJD a bit more and use him as a kick returner. 1mill salary for a guy with his speed runningback kicks and maybe doing something as a receiver isn't THAT bad.
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IS MJD going to hand him the freaking ball. Cause he sure as hell isnt going to catch it.
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Guys, let's not forget that it's not only his hands that suck, he can not adjust to the ball at all and lacks awareness. Hence balls bouncing off of his shoulder pads. Even with all the speed he had, he really didn't add much in terms of returning either. I was actually pretty excited when we drafted him and thought he would start to develop in a year or two, and even was happy that he was getting another chance this year.

For reasons said above, I'm ecstatic he's on his way out, and that we even managed to pick up a draft pick for him. I know the chances of a late 6th round pick (speculated) panning out isn't high, but there was no chance that Troy was going to turn things around in Minnesota. If he can somehow acquire body control to go with his blazing speed then he could be a very nice deep threat, until then he'll continue to disappoint and have fans wanting to hurt themselves. No more heart palpitations for when the ball is coming towards him or he's fielding a kick.

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All in all, this is a solid move. 6th rounder that can upgrade a round? It's a worthy gamble for a team looking for speed. They'll get Mike Walker back, but how much he can help is unknown. I wouldn't be surprised if they still drafted a WR early.

But for a 6th rounder? Solid gamble, provided Troy still top speed.
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well....the jaguars now have four former first round picks catching the ball or trying to at least...

Williams (9th overall)
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I pray to jesus we go WR in the first round again..............................not
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Which can be as high as a 3rd rounder now, and if its anything higher than a 5th than thats a pathetic trade for the Jaguars to make.
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If his salary is low and he can be had for cheap I don't see why not. I think he has more potential than most players you can grab in round six or seven. Sometimes players just need a change in scenery.
i agree. williamson still has potential he was a top 15 pick. maybe with some better coaching he can evolve.
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this is an interesting move and it has alot of angles to be considered...

like stated above, the jags now have 4 former 1st rounders (2 top 10 picks) in their reciveing core, along with mike walker, dennis northcutt and ernest wilford (who i think is a FA anyways). So it isnt like there isnt talent there. that said, they are all extremely raw or are for some reason not living up to their potential. I think this is an interesting scenario and i wanna see how it plays out.


That said, Troy williamson is a ****ing tool lol. He doesnt adjust well when the ball is in the air, and i have personally seen at least 5 balls hit has facemask since he came into the leauge (to put it in perspecitve, i watch maybe 3 minnesota games a season). He has NO hands at all, little awareness, and i thought he was a terrible pick at #7 that year. Just think, they traded randy freaking moss for troy williamson and napoleon harris. Damn, the vikes have made some real bad personel decisions in recent history. Then they traded their star QB for ryan cook. huh...oh well anyways, i guess williamson has potential and this could work out well for the jags if they can develop him properly, although i doubt it. AS ERU stated though, it says second day pick which is all the way up to the 3rd round now, so Jags fans better hope this is like a 5th rounder.
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In his defense he has a very good work ethic the same things were said about Chris Carter at one time. "ALl he catches is TDS" but uhm Troy doesnt really do that either. he has to be active to do that. The guy runs like the wind and catches the football as though it were water the ball just seems to slide through his hands.
Does anyone realize that Troy Williamson is a walking talking football cliche? How many football movies include a superfast wide receiver who can't catch the football?

At what point is Scott Bakula or Keanu Reaves going to play QB for the Jaguars and throw a touchdown to a wide open Troy Williamson who manages to miraculously catch it while dramatic music is playing in the background? I want to know so I can tune in. Will Rob Schneider and John Madden be calling the game?
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well...thats....interesting....
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AS ERU stated though, it says second day pick which is all the way up to the 3rd round now, so Jags fans better hope this is like a 5th rounder.
I think I read somewhere it was a 6th round pick. Might just have been rumors though.
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For sure a 7th round pick.
Just watched it on ESPN.
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Personally, I like this move...it means we don't have to use a first day pick or even a second day pick on a speedy unproven with no experience WR...he'll be competition in training camp and worst case scenario is he's the fourth or fifth WR on the depth chart...
4th or 5th on the depth chart, and then he'll get wide open on 3rd down or a well designed play, and completely whiff on a ball with nobody within 15 yards of him. Like I said, he's the ultimate drive killer and offensive cancer.

I don't think you guys understand just how bad he is. He is so uncoordinated and confused when trying to catch a ball, that you might actually be able to argue that he has down syndrome or mentally retardation. Balls have bounced off his chest, his face mask, the top of his helmet, his shoulder, etc. When he drops balls his arms or hands rarely make physical contact... that's how f'in far off he is.

Good luck! Have fun with him, that's all I'll say. Some of you will look back to this day when you lauded (however subtly) the Williamson trade in embarrassment.

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For a 7th round pick? Worth a flier.
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Well, for a 7th you can't go wrong. The question is, is Minnesota that disgusted with him that they were willing to let him go for a 7th?

Wow...
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