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Old 02-29-2008, 09:10 AM    (permalink) 
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well, i like this trade for both teams. the browns get a great young player that can step in immediately (which is more than they probably would've gotten with that draft pick) and the packers were 6 deep at DT, so they'd be foolish NOT to trade somebody. good trade all around.
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IMO, it's a foregone conclusion DA is gone. That, of course, means a 1st and 3rd if we choose to let him sign elsewhere.
I doubt any team is going to fork over that much in compensation. That said, is an RFA tender like a franchise tag in that teams can work out different levels of compensation than specified by the rules? If so, he could get a 1st or high 2nd.
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I like this deal a lot for Corey, the Tommy Kelly deal didn't effect this, and he doesn't have to live up to ridiculous expectations of a huge deal. This is an extremely fair contract for both sides.
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I doubt any team is going to fork over that much in compensation. That said, is an RFA tender like a franchise tag in that teams can work out different levels of compensation than specified by the rules? If so, he could get a 1st or high 2nd.
There are 4 different RFA tenders. Not sure the exact numbers but each carries a different pick compensation.
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Yes, this trade worked out great for both parties so far. Green Bay can add a nice young prospect with the 56th overall pick, and the Browns get a very good young DT to play left end in their 3-4 which fills their biggest need by far.
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Is there a cap penalty for trading a big-money player in exchange for a draft pick? If not, Madden once again falls short.
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Is there a cap penalty for trading a big-money player in exchange for a draft pick? If not, Madden once again falls short.
Williams' contract was the Franchise Tag which doesn't include a signing bonus so there is no penalty.
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Late 6th Round Late 4th Round
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thats pretty bad
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Old 03-01-2008, 12:38 AM    (permalink) 
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I guess it's how you look at it. The premise of the offseason, in terms of free agency and the Draft, is talent acquisition. For the Browns, they have the cap space and the willingness to pull the trigger on acquiring experienced players in the league.
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thats pretty bad
Well they did pick up two defensive players still in their 20's, and their offense is already at the top half of the league, so i wouldnt be concerned about the picks...Although, with no picks in the first 3 rounds, I would of been trying to shop Anderson for his tender.
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its not about th picks. its about our quarterback situation. if we want to go further with anderson we are going to put vets around him and see what he can really do. if we draft players that take a couple years to develop then you wont get a good understanding of da as a qb. with quinn waiting in the wings we wanna see what da can do with a solid team before we make a franchise descion and go to quinn
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Last year, the work and the investment that went into the offensive line, capped off by the drafting of Joe Thomas, paid off and the Browns offense exploded because of it. Edwards, Winslow, and Lewis are big reasons for success, but don't overlook the importance of Cleveland's OL imo in making Anderson look as good as he did. They definitely deserve credit for the offense finally living up to potential.

Maybe the Browns aim to do the same thing this year, with the defensive line. Plus with a 3-4, a lot of success is predicated on the effectiveness of the front three.
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I really doubt teams will be able to run on us as easy with:
Shaun Smith 6'2 325
Shaun Rogers 6'4 360
Corey Williams 6'4 320

As apposed to last year with:
Robaire Smith
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:40 AM    (permalink) 
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thats pretty bad
Not as bad as the Browns' draft history up until recently...
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:42 AM    (permalink) 
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I really doubt teams will be able to run on us as easy with:
Shaun Smith 6'2 325
Shaun Rogers 6'4 360
Corey Williams 6'4 320

As apposed to last year with:
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Ya that line is really good, if rodgers come to play he can dominate. Im just realyl hoping this is the trade that lights his fires
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thats pretty bad
actually

Rd 1 - Brady Quinn
Rd 2 - Corey Williams
Rd 3 - Shaun Rogers
Late 4th Round
Late 6th Round Late 4th Round
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id be pretty pleased with that as a browns fan.
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I dont mind losing our picks one bit.

We gauranteed instant upgrades, something the draft cannot do.
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I dont mind losing our picks one bit.

We gauranteed instant upgrades, something the draft cannot do.
Well, there isn't anything guaranteeing that Rodgers and Williams will be great successes in Cleveland. Brady Quinn for that matter too. I'm not saying that these are bad trades for the Browns, because I think they all are good deals one way or another but only time will tell if they were the right moves and if they resulted in instant upgrades.
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Williams said in his press conference that he couldnt wait to get out of Green Bay. When they asked him why he said that topic was for another day. He mentioned he was really dissapointed when he was tendered becaue he didnt want to play for that team anymore.

Any clue what this was about Green Bay fans?
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i have no idea, because last month he said he liked Green Bay
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Williams said in his press conference that he couldnt wait to get out of Green Bay. When they asked him why he said that topic was for another day. He mentioned he was really dissapointed when he was tendered becaue he didnt want to play for that team anymore.

Any clue what this was about Green Bay fans?
He was just talking stupid....right after the Giants game he said how much he would love to be a part of this organization and stay in Green Bay
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He was just talking stupid....right after the Giants game he said how much he would love to be a part of this organization and stay in Green Bay
Isnt that what your supposed to say when your on a great team and you dont want to disrupt it?
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