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Old 03-03-2008, 02:24 PM    (permalink
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1999 Warren Sapp, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive tackle
2000 Ray Lewis, Baltimore Ravens Linebacker
2001 Michael Strahan, New York Giants Defensive end
2002 Derrick Brooks, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Linebacker
2003 Ray Lewis, Baltimore Ravens Linebacker
2004 Ed Reed, Baltimore Ravens Safety
2005 Brian Urlacher, Chicago Bears, Linebacker
2006 Jason Taylor, Miami Dolphins, Defensive end
2007 Bob Sanders, Indianapolis Colts, Safety

just looking back to me it seems like the last few people who have won it
didnt do the same things as the past players did

Lews geting 160 Tackles, 6 Picks, forceng fumbles everywhere
Derrick Brook with like 300 total return yards and 4 tds 120 tackles and 5 picks
Strahan breaking the Sack Record
Sapp just destorying lines not letting the runner get anywere
Ed Reed forcing 12 turnovers 400 return yards 2 tds just owned

seem like there has not been anything like that the past 3 years
maybe its just me but it didnt seem like just one player owning
past years you didnt debet who was the best that year you knew

just my 2 cents like to see what you guys think
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bob sanders was pretty ridiculous this year. Didnt show up as much in the stats i guess, but his impact was just as good. Taylor and Urlacher weren't quite as good but again I think the impact they made (Urlacher especially) was just as important.

Hard to say, i voted no mainly because Bob Sanders was phenomenal last year, but i definitely see the point that can be made on past guys doing better because statistically it isnt even close but in terms of impact i think it's a little closer.
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I hate Jason Taylor, but I can't deny his 06 season was incredible. 62 Tackles, 13.5 Sacks, 7 TFL, 2 INT's (returned both for TD's), 10 FF's, and 11 PD's. Definately worthy of the award, but I agree Sanders was not that great.
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Sanders didn't deserve it in my opinion. He's like an undersized linebacker with some speed who they stick back at safety. I don't think his coverage skills are that good.
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champ bailey should of won it last year. i don't remember the numbers exactly but he was targeted about 35 times and only gave up 4 completions while making 10 picks. best season a cornerback has ever had. last season didn't really have a stand out player, haynesworth most likely being the clear cut choice if he had stayed healthy.
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champ bailey should of won it last year. i don't remember the numbers exactly but he was targeted about 35 times and only gave up 4 completions while making 10 picks. best season a cornerback has ever had. last season didn't really have a stand out player, haynesworth most likely being the clear cut choice if he had stayed healthy.
did you forget the year Deion Sanders had with the 49ers?
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Maybe this season, but last year had some great performances. Taylor and Bailey were absolutely dominant and changed games. I thought Bailey should have won but I don't mean that taking anything away from Taylor. Bailey just cemented himself as one of the great cb's of all time.
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did you forget the year Deion Sanders had with the 49ers?
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no i didn't
deion had 6picks for over 300 yards 3 tds i belive 5 catches all season and played another sport

so im gonna give it to him not to metion the year Woodson had before that
the year the both won DPOY were amazing

not say champdidnt have one of the greatest years ever and should have one the mvp

but deion didnt even play the whole year and won the MVP and help get his team a ring

and it was one of the only year that people threw his way

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Bob Sanders was undeserving, but I have no problem with Taylor or Urlacher.
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its not that i had problems with the winners i just feel like we havent had years life the past players

Champ should have beat Taylor
Brian had greatgreat year but imo not same to people b4 him
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deion had 6picks for over 300 yards 3 tds i belive 5 catches all season and played another sport

so im gonna give it to him not to metion the year Woodson had before that
the year the both won DPOY were amazing

not say champdidnt have one of the greatest years ever and should have one the mvp

but deion didnt even play the whole year and won the MVP and help get his team a ring

and it was one of the only year that people threw his way
it was a great season for deion but champ's was more impressive when you consider it was played under modern rules and he was surrounded by a considerably less talented team.

there's actually an article about this exact topic that i'll try to dig up.
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No disrespect to Willis but in no way did he deserve to be the DPOY. Sure he had a hell of a season but not that good.
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Haynesworth wouldve got it had he played all 16 games.
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Urlacher played on one of the best defenses in the league. I think they were also on pace to break some records if Harris had stayed healthy (I think that was the year he got hurt). He was the heart of the best defense that year. It makes sense.

Taylor also had a great year. His 10 FFs and 2 interceptions were the most impressive. Playing on a team that didnt even go to playoffs or have any other defensive talent. He was good.

Sanders didnt deserve it this year, I think, but he also was the heart of a great defense this year. Though I think Freeney is more vital, but whatever.
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his injury prove to me that should have won it
when he was out that defence look way worst
then when Sanders was hurt and didnt play
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Taylor and Sanders really stick out as being unimpressive.

Taylor played great yeah, but when I think of DPOY I associate it with a dominant defense and a winning team. Taylor was part of neither. This is debatable, but to me it just made it seem unimpressive.

Sanders kind of fell into the same category. There was no doubt that the defense played a lot better when he was on the field. Still he's undersized and part of a defense that is merely good and completely overshadowed by the offense. Also he wasn't very noticeable when I watched the colts. Again debatable but it's the impression I got.

Guys in the past were part of legendary defenses and when you watched them play you couldn't help but watch them and marvel. I don't feel that way about Taylor or Sanders, but I did about Urlacher, Reed, and others.
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Anyone else think Sean Taylor played very well untill he got hurt and we all know what happened after that RIP sad

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Bob Sanders is everything to the Colts D IMO.
But also I agree with Legend. Taylor wouldve won had he not be killed. He really dominated this year
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can you tell me why sanders was undeserving...? Who do you think should have gotten it instead.
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I would have to strongly disagree, especially concernign the Bob Sanders as MVP last year. He arguably made the biggest impact out of all of them. Without him, the Indy defense is in shambles, especially when it comes to the running game. If it wouldn't have been for him, the Colts wouldn't have made it to the Superbowl, let alone win it last year. I'm not bashing Indy, I really like them a lot and Tony Dungy, but the defense would be horrible without Bob Sanders.
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I would have to strongly disagree, especially concernign the Bob Sanders as MVP last year. He arguably made the biggest impact out of all of them. Without him, the Indy defense is in shambles, especially when it comes to the running game. If it wouldn't have been for him, the Colts wouldn't have made it to the Superbowl, let alone win it last year. I'm not bashing Indy, I really like them a lot and Tony Dungy, but the defense would be horrible without Bob Sanders.
100% agree I dont understand how anyone can say Sanders was undeserving.... Without Sanders Indys D wouldnt have been nearly as good as it was.
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Taylor and Sanders really stick out as being unimpressive.

Taylor played great yeah, but when I think of DPOY I associate it with a dominant defense and a winning team. Taylor was part of neither. This is debatable, but to me it just made it seem unimpressive.

Sanders kind of fell into the same category. There was no doubt that the defense played a lot better when he was on the field. Still he's undersized and part of a defense that is merely good and completely overshadowed by the offense. Also he wasn't very noticeable when I watched the colts. Again debatable but it's the impression I got.

Guys in the past were part of legendary defenses and when you watched them play you couldn't help but watch them and marvel. I don't feel that way about Taylor or Sanders, but I did about Urlacher, Reed, and others.

There is a reason it is called DPOY and not Defensive Player on a Winning Team and Great Defense Of the Year (DPWTGDOY) award.
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