Hall Of Fame 2013 - Page 2

scottyboy · 03-05-2008, 06:52 PM

Strahan no doubt, if he retires that is

The Legend · 03-05-2008, 07:44 PM

QB - Brett Favre
DT - Warren Sapp
FB - Lorenzo Neal
DE - Michael Strahan
LB - Junior Seau
OG - Larry Allen
OT - Jonathan Odgen

T-RICH49 · 03-05-2008, 08:33 PM

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when Willie Roaf Tackle of the Chiefs?
also did Larry Allen Retire?

IIRC Roaf retired in 2007 but maybe someone can correct me on that

LonghornsLegend · 03-05-2008, 08:37 PM

Deion, Marshall, and Jerry Rice in the same class? Wow...Cant wait for that to roll around.

bored of education · 03-05-2008, 08:38 PM

If Derrick Thomas is not in the HoF by then I will kill myself.

DaBear89 · 03-05-2008, 10:25 PM

^ditto for Richard Dent

BlindSite · 03-06-2008, 06:41 AM

Rod Smith?

Jughead10 · 03-06-2008, 06:58 AM

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Martin deserves first-ballot. He's the fourth in career rushing yards and carries an impressive record in 10 straight 1,000+ yard rushing seasons. The argument that he doesn't have a 'signature moment' is bogus... it's about the body of work.

It isn't bogus. It is a legit argument. Curtis Martin just never got hurt. That is why he rushed for so much. His career ypc isn't very impressive and at no time in his career was he ever a top 3 RB in the game.

bucpimpin · 03-06-2008, 08:05 AM

Mike Alstott

boknows34 · 03-06-2008, 08:36 AM

Jerry Rice is 2010 with Emmitt. His last season was 2004 and he retired while at camp with Denver just before the 2005 season.

2009: Bruce Smith, Rod Woodson, Shannon Sharpe, John Randle.

2010: Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, Tim Brown, Aeneas Williams, Gary Anderson.

2011: Deion Sanders, Curtis Martin, Marshall Faulk, Jerome Bettis, Willie Roaf.

2012: Will Shields.

2013: Brett Favre, Larry Allen, Warren Sapp, Bryant Young.

Wait and see: Junior Seau, Orlando Pace, Jon Ogden, Michael Strahan, Morten Andersen.

The Legend · 03-06-2008, 11:06 AM

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Mike Alstott

not even a chance but was a great person/player

Gay Ork Wang · 03-06-2008, 11:16 AM

Keyshawn 2012?

03-06-2008, 11:58 AM

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It isn't bogus. It is a legit argument. Curtis Martin just never got hurt. That is why he rushed for so much. His career ypc isn't very impressive and at no time in his career was he ever a top 3 RB in the game.

And Jerome Bettis was? (dont know ur specific opinion on if JB should make it in or not). The fact that Curtis Martin stayed healthy for most of his career is a testament to the type of football player he is(particularly when you consider that he was labeled "injury prone" coming out of Pittsburgh. It seems that there are quite a few players who make it into the HOF based on being consistently good, over a long period of time (Art Monk comes to mind). ANd the fact that he wasnt in the top 3-5 at his position doesnt say much, considering he was playing alongside a few all time greats during his career.

Jughead10 · 03-06-2008, 12:02 PM

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And Jerome Bettis was? (dont know ur specific opinion on if JB should make it in or not). The fact that Curtis Martin stayed healthy for most of his career is a testament to the type of football player he is(particularly when you consider that he was labeled "injury prone" coming out of Pittsburgh. It seems that there are quite a few players who make it into the HOF based on being consistently good, over a long period of time (Art Monk comes to mind). ANd the fact that he wasnt in the top 3-5 at his position doesnt say much, considering he was playing alongside a few all time greats during his career.

I acutally said earlier in the thread I pray Bettis doesn't get in on the first shot. I also don't think Art Monk should have ever made it. We are starting to water down the HOF.

Vikes99ej · 03-06-2008, 12:06 PM

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Keyshawn 2012?

I wouldn't give him any chance at all.

The Legend · 03-06-2008, 12:10 PM

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I acutally said earlier in the thread I pray Bettis doesn't get in on the first shot. I also don't think Art Monk should have ever made it. We are starting to water down the HOF.

Hall of Fame is starting to mean less and less, soon if you win a award
your going to go into the hall of fame

Finsfan79 · 03-07-2008, 08:28 AM

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Martin deserves first-ballot. He's the fourth in career rushing yards and carries an impressive record in 10 straight 1,000+ yard rushing seasons. The argument that he doesn't have a 'signature moment' is bogus... it's about the body of work.

it is the same arguement they will use against Zach Thomas

Both should be in

Jughead10 · 03-07-2008, 08:38 AM

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it is the same arguement they will use against Zach Thomas

Both should be in

Although I'd say at their peaks Zach was more dominant at his position than Curtis was.

jth1331 · 03-07-2008, 12:47 PM

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Hall of Fame is starting to mean less and less, soon if you win a award
your going to go into the hall of fame

I feel the same way, and proven guys like Gradishar, Derrick Thomas, Cris Carter get passed for joke guys.
This is the Hall of FAME, not Hall of Very Good

Martin and Bettis were BOTH very good, but neither are deserving of the HoF IMO. ESPECIALLY Bettis, but he will get in because of his later seasons push and getting that Super Bowl victory thanks to the refs. Martin was never a top RB IMO, and is like Monk. Both decent guys who played for a long time to pile up the stats, but never really "struck fear" into the defenses.

Jughead10 · 03-07-2008, 12:50 PM

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I feel the same way, and proven guys like Gradishar, Derrick Thomas, Cris Carter get passed for joke guys.
This is the Hall of FAME, not Hall of Very Good

Martin and Bettis were BOTH very good, but neither are deserving of the HoF IMO. ESPECIALLY Bettis, but he will get in because of his later seasons push and getting that Super Bowl victory thanks to the refs. Martin was never a top RB IMO, and is like Monk. Both decent guys who played for a long time to pile up the stats, but never really "struck fear" into the defenses.

Agreed. I have no idea how Gradishar didn't get in this year. He should be in. I can see making Derrick Thomas wait a bit longer. Carter I guess should have been a first ballot but I have no problem making him wait one more year. The only problem I had was Monk getting in and Carter not.

Turtlepower · 03-07-2008, 01:03 PM

When would Parcells be eligible for the hall? He probably deserves it more than most people in there.

Geo · 03-07-2008, 02:00 PM

That's the problem with letting Monk into the Hall of Fame. It's opened the door to players like Bettis and Martin.

EvilMonkey · 03-07-2008, 02:00 PM

yeah the new era of running backs is tough to project. I think Martin and Bettis will eventually get in, but hopefully not first-ballot.

The more he plays at such a high level, the better his chances, but Fred Taylor could be in the same boat in the future too due to the whole "never one of the top 3 RB in the NFL arguement." If he can go another 2 years over 1000 yards it definately helps his case, but i cant say for sure he isnt a guy who was just very, very good for a long time, not necessarily one of the greatest.

Geo · 03-07-2008, 02:03 PM

I like Freddie T a great deal, but he doesn't belong in the Hall. He was never among the best runningbacks of his era imo, but he's been an exceptional pro and will stand as one of the greats in Jags franchise history.

I don't think Bettis belongs either, at all. Curtis Martin is borderline imo, and I might lean towards yes. At this moment, anyway.

Jughead10 · 03-07-2008, 02:04 PM

Wasn't this just Taylor's first pro bowl?