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Old 03-06-2008, 08:35 PM    (permalink
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I'm rather "meh" about this. If he stays healthy he'll be a contributer, but the problem is that he won't stay healthy.
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They signing every injured linebacker they can?

Also, why can't Detroit get any of these guys?
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Well now Vilma and Morgan are reunited i think.. I know both went to the U. I think this is a nice move, he could do well as a good backup/possible starter.
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Dont both guys play Mike?
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do you guys still draft Rivers?
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Morgan has been a Mike for his entire career but they're apparently going to slot him at the Weakside spot.

As for Rivers..I don't know. I think we'll just sit back and hopefully let Sedrick Ellis or Glenn Dorsey fall to 10. If they're not there, they may well trade back and pick up some extra picks.

I'd like to see them trade down and take Rogers-Cromartie or something.
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Morgan will play weakside in place of Shanle I like this move and yes I would still like to take Rivers. But it looks like we will take a CB IMO.
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oh nooo....i hope he doesn't get hurt, particular another concussion.

just let it go Dan. your life is more important.
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Ya doubt they will go LB inthe draft now. They have clearly addressed the need of LB. CB is the next need.
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theyd be foolish to pass on Rivers. im an advocate of implementing the Tampa 2 in NO, and having Vilma, Rivers, Smith and Grant on the dline would give them a formidable Tampa 2 front 7.

They already have 1 CB thats a Tampa 2 guy. Now draft another Tampa 2 CB in a later round, draft Laws as your penetrator up the gut, and poof, you got yourself a pretty good Tampa 2 defense in one offseason.
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I hope he can stay on the field he is one heck of a player when he does play.
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Purely a depth signing. Nothing more.
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theyd be foolish to pass on Rivers. im an advocate of implementing the Tampa 2 in NO, and having Vilma, Rivers, Smith and Grant on the dline would give them a formidable Tampa 2 front 7.

They already have 1 CB thats a Tampa 2 guy. Now draft another Tampa 2 CB in a later round, draft Laws as your penetrator up the gut, and poof, you got yourself a pretty good Tampa 2 defense in one offseason.
That's not going to happen anytime soon with Gary Gibbs at the helm.
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but it makes perfect sense. you know much better the Saints will be with this change? that simple offseason blueprint will make them serious contenders.
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They signing every injured linebacker they can?

Also, why can't Detroit get any of these guys?
I'm glad we didn't land Dan Morgan..The only thing he would've brought to us is an eventual 10 minute game stoppage because he suffered another concussion.
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Good signing. I have been an advocate of moving Morgan from the middle and away from the trash. The more he minimizes contact, the better off he will be. I still wouldn't bet on him being healthy though. Really too bad, bc he was a great player before injuries.
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theyd be foolish to pass on Rivers.
I like Rivers. I really do, but I think with the addition of Vilma & Morgan and resigning Mark Simeoneau, the FO is content with the depth and players. I'm an advocate for Rivers at 10, though. We really want a DT and wanting Ellis or Dorsey and I hear we're willing to trade up to land either of them so that would be my first guess. My second guess is that if none is there we're going to target a CB. If we're not enamored with the CBs (Jenkins, McKelvin or DRC) then it becomes BPA excluding QB. Don't be surprised to see us take Ryan Clady, but I get the feeling we're going to add Rashard Mendenhall.
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Did you really want him? I mean, he'll probably play 3-4 games max...
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Did you really want him? I mean, he'll probably play 3-4 games max...
I doubt he makes it out of training camp...
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If they could find the D-Line they could have a pretty good 3-4 Defense. But that's pretty far from reality. Did they sign Morgan for insurance/depth purposes because he's been pretty banged up himself.

Smith - Vilma - Morgan - Grant
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I like Rivers. I really do, but I think with the addition of Vilma & Morgan and resigning Mark Simeoneau, the FO is content with the depth and players. I'm an advocate for Rivers at 10, though. We really want a DT and wanting Ellis or Dorsey and I hear we're willing to trade up to land either of them so that would be my first guess. My second guess is that if none is there we're going to target a CB. If we're not enamored with the CBs (Jenkins, McKelvin or DRC) then it becomes BPA excluding QB. Don't be surprised to see us take Ryan Clady, but I get the feeling we're going to add Rashard Mendenhall.
its just real hard to have so much money invested in the offense, and also try to build a conventional 4-3 defense on the other side thats good enough to win a championship with.

usually the blueprint for teams built on offense is to compliment that with a cheap effective Tampa 2. I think the Saints are making a mistake trying to mix and match parts on defense. Thats what has been holding the Bengals back for so long now. No direction on defense.

Theyre really not that far off. They can really make a nice Tampa 2 with one offseason. A simple mock off the top of my head

1. Rivers
2. Laws
3. Best available CB that slipped

that right there gives them a solid Tampa 2 to build off of. You have the ends, youd have the LBs, with Laws youd have a decent 1,2 DT punch, and you'd have the CBs.
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You're preaching to the choir here, bbd.
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You're preaching to the choir here, bbd.
let's call Payton and make it happen. lol :)

if you think about it, even if they took that approach without having the Tampa 2 in mind, it would still be a pretty good idea.

this draft is built for NO to really address some issues...if they handle it appropriately.

even their "offensive" issues, like RB and OT.
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Rivers is a late first round pick at best.
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I'm telling you, bbd. We're taking Mendenhall at 10. You heard it here first.
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