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Old 03-08-2008, 12:29 PM    (permalink
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aren't they 20 mill over the cap? where's all the cuts?

and i heard they can get Hall? How? Theyre 20 mill over the cap. Can someone fill me in on this. It doesn't make any sense.
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i think they are 8 million under right now give me a sec to find the link.... for as dumb as snyder is at spending money the one thing he is great at is working around the salary cap
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i think they are 8 million under right now give me a sec to find the link.... for as dumb as snyder is at spending money the one thing he is great at is working around the salary cap
so they were never 20 mill over? or did they make cuts to get under?
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so they were never 20 mill over? or did they make cuts to get under?
We re-did the contracts like we always do to get under. We were 20 mill over though.
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ya i thought they were over too id like to see that link. thats a lot of cuts to get under.
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so they were never 20 mill over? or did they make cuts to get under?
i think they were, we really didnt make any huge cuts but brunell gave us something like 7 or 8 off and snyder is just really good at renegotiating contracts with players and they are willing cause they get more gauranteed money from him

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"The Skins officially saved $2.4 million on Clinton Portis's new deal and are now $7.7 million under the cap, plenty of room to make a big move. Vinny Cerrato is telling everyone and anyone that the team is doing nothing. They have gone from one extreme to the other, and even with the draft as a priority now, they'd better add a quality player at either CB or WR this off season outside of the draft. Just my opinion."
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I don't know what Sean Taylor's contract was worht, but obviously they won't be paying him anymore. Morbid, but cap-wise that did help them.
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so they were never 20 mill over? or did they make cuts to get under?
I think we only cut 1 person
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wow. the man knows his dollars, i'll give him that.
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aren't they 20 mill over the cap? where's all the cuts?

and i heard they can get Hall? How? Theyre 20 mill over the cap. Can someone fill me in on this. It doesn't make any sense.

hall as in.. deangelo?!?! :)
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hall as in.. deangelo?!?! :)
haha. it wouldn't shock me. you'll probably lose your 1st for him though.
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I don't know what Sean Taylor's contract was worht, but obviously they won't be paying him anymore. Morbid, but cap-wise that did help them.
well whenever a great player retires/dies, they always give one last gift to their team. its still doesnt make up for the loss of Sean Taylor though (or in my case Brett Favre)
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They cut one player in Brandon Lloyd who will be a June 1st Cut.

They voided Rock Cartwright(who re-signed today) and Mark Brunell.

The re-structured Chris Cooley's 11 million roster bonus over the life of his contract, that turned an 12.2 million cap hit into a 4.4 million hit.

Portis, Samuels, Jansen, Carter, Thomas and Daniels also restructured their deals.

Moss and Griffin are also likely to restructure their deals

That is how you get from 20 million over to 8 million under.
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haha. it wouldn't shock me. you'll probably lose your 1st for him though.
i wouldnt care if we lost a 1st for him, he's better than any corner you're going to get in the draft and he is younger than some as well.
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well whenever a great player retires/dies, they always give one last gift to their team. its still doesnt make up for the loss of Sean Taylor though (or in my case Brett Favre)
Except Brett Favre isn't DEAD.
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Hey guys, this is my first post and I just wanted to say that I love what I read around nfldc. Quality forum you've got going here.

Anyway, there's a common misconception that the Redskins are in "cap hell" every offseason because of the massive contracts they give out. Really, Dan Snyder has found a clever way to get around the cap system for the most part.

The Redskins' contracts are almost always six or seven year deals where the money is backloaded to the last three or four years to minimize short-term cap numbers. If the player makes it to the last few years of his contract, Snyder tells them he will restructure their contract, converting the base salary (that counts against the cap) into gauranteed money that doesn't count against the cap. The players almost always accept the restructured contracts because they are of equal value.

Basically, because Snyder is willing to throw around gauranteed money he is able to circumvent the cap. This is how the Skins get out of cap hell and sign so many free agents every year. As a skins fan, it took me about three years of fearing "cap hell" before I realized that snyder knew what he was doing (with money at least)
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I'm still surprised the Redskins haven't made a move for DJ Hackett, considering there isn't much of a market out there for him right now. He seems to be a perfect fit (bigger receiver, knows the system).
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Hey guys, this is my first post and I just wanted to say that I love what I read around nfldc. Quality forum you've got going here.

Anyway, there's a common misconception that the Redskins are in "cap hell" every offseason because of the massive contracts they give out. Really, Dan Snyder has found a clever way to get around the cap system for the most part.

The Redskins' contracts are almost always six or seven year deals where the money is backloaded to the last three or four years to minimize short-term cap numbers. If the player makes it to the last few years of his contract, Snyder tells them he will restructure their contract, converting the base salary (that counts against the cap) into gauranteed money that doesn't count against the cap. The players almost always accept the restructured contracts because they are of equal value.

Basically, because Snyder is willing to throw around gauranteed money he is able to circumvent the cap. This is how the Skins get out of cap hell and sign so many free agents every year. As a skins fan, it took me about three years of fearing "cap hell" before I realized that snyder knew what he was doing (with money at least)
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I think he is to injury prone for us
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Hey guys, this is my first post and I just wanted to say that I love what I read around nfldc. Quality forum you've got going here.

Anyway, there's a common misconception that the Redskins are in "cap hell" every offseason because of the massive contracts they give out. Really, Dan Snyder has found a clever way to get around the cap system for the most part.

The Redskins' contracts are almost always six or seven year deals where the money is backloaded to the last three or four years to minimize short-term cap numbers. If the player makes it to the last few years of his contract, Snyder tells them he will restructure their contract, converting the base salary (that counts against the cap) into gauranteed money that doesn't count against the cap. The players almost always accept the restructured contracts because they are of equal value.

Basically, because Snyder is willing to throw around gauranteed money he is able to circumvent the cap. This is how the Skins get out of cap hell and sign so many free agents every year. As a skins fan, it took me about three years of fearing "cap hell" before I realized that snyder knew what he was doing (with money at least)
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i wouldnt care if we lost a 1st for him, he's better than any corner you're going to get in the draft and he is younger than some as well.
better? we won't know that for another 4 years. what we do know is though, he'll be more expensive than any of the rookie CBs.

thats the reason why im hoping my Giants draft best available CB opposed to trading for Hall. Although i wouldn't mind Hall at all, i think financially its a smarter move to draft CB in our position.
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I would have no problem giving up our first for hall. He is the only corner that we can get that would be an automatic upgrade.
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Hey guys, this is my first post and I just wanted to say that I love what I read around nfldc. Quality forum you've got going here.

Anyway, there's a common misconception that the Redskins are in "cap hell" every offseason because of the massive contracts they give out. Really, Dan Snyder has found a clever way to get around the cap system for the most part.

The Redskins' contracts are almost always six or seven year deals where the money is backloaded to the last three or four years to minimize short-term cap numbers. If the player makes it to the last few years of his contract, Snyder tells them he will restructure their contract, converting the base salary (that counts against the cap) into gauranteed money that doesn't count against the cap. The players almost always accept the restructured contracts because they are of equal value.

Basically, because Snyder is willing to throw around gauranteed money he is able to circumvent the cap. This is how the Skins get out of cap hell and sign so many free agents every year. As a skins fan, it took me about three years of fearing "cap hell" before I realized that snyder knew what he was doing (with money at least)
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