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Old 03-09-2008, 11:40 PM    (permalink
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With the draft getting closer i will be making more ravens mocks so heres the first one

1) Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie | CB | Tennessee St.
There isnt much to knock the kid on he has great size, great feet, long arms and a good vert. What impresses me most is his ability to sink his hips and flip them in his backpedal and coming out of breaks especially for such a lanky guy. Is a true playmaker in the mold of his cousin and the only flaws i can see in his game are his level of competition and this he is frail. He will be given time to grow under Rolle and will be allowed to develop much like Antonio Cromartie did in SD. Could be a dynamic playmaker in our defense and ive fallen in love with his potential, not many small school players go this high and theres a reason for that, Cromartie could be something special.

2) James Hardy | WR | Indiana
If there is one thing we need to capitilize on in this draft it is the talented big recievers in this draft and is a dimension our offense does not have and could find great value in the second..This pick could be any of James Hardy, Malcolm Kelly who seeems to be dropping fast, Limas Sweed or devin Thomas..i would be happy with any of the four i just mentioned and all would bring something unique to our offense that really isnt there right now and i expect of all of them for Hardy to be the one there. they can all be legitamates no.1 targets and all are terrors in the red zone especially Hardy. His size will cause matchup terrors and Cam Cameron loves using big guys in the red zone and all over the field. This will allow for the eventual retirement/cut of Mason and complete our offense which already has tons of potential and with good coaching and some luck in the next 3 years we could be among the best. other ideas would be to take a DL like Calais Campbell, Kentwan Balmer (falling once again), Dre Moore. Ive always liked the idea of Erin henderson also.

Comp. 3rd) Mike Pollack | C | Arizona St.
Isnt spectacular at anything but is good at everything. is a natural football player on the offensive line. Is one of the quicker inside linemen in the draft and shows great knee bender which is one thing that is beyond difficult to teach. Can play G or C and is smart enough to pick up both positions. A technician of the game and leader on the offensive line, his intangibles are great and could be a consistent leader for an offensive line for the next decade. An underrated prospect and is the best C in the draft and would allow us to add depth to the interior of our line which is needed and justifies the release of Flynn. Also to be honest if it is him vs. Chester for the starting C spot i would give it to Pollack.One of my favourite prospects.

Comp. 4th) Dominique Barber | S | Minnesota
I have fallen in love with the way this kid plays defense. It is seriously with reckless abondonement and reminds me alot of Bob sanders, not saying he will be as good but both play a very aggressive game. Will be an immediate special teams contributor and will be a terror there throughout his career. Has more potential then guys like Jamar Adams and Jonathon Hafney and i expect alot of coaches and scouts to fall in love with his style of play. Is still raw and has tons of potential but may be destined to ST with his chaotic playing style. Needs to show discipline towards the play and not outrun and aggressively take himself out of plays.

5th) Cory Boyd | HB | South Carolina
Has great hands out of the backfield and is very experienced in catching the ball. Is a perfect 3rd down back and spell to McGahee. Has good size and will be able develop into a better blocker in time. With the talent in the draft at RB we could see a better prospect at this point but we will see on draft day.

6th) Brian Johnston | DE | Gardner-Webb
tremendous sleeper prospect. Shows a nice combination of size and speed at 6'5, 280lbs and a 4.8, 40 time. Small school prospect that reminds me of Jason Hatcher who was drafted by the Cowboys. Would fit well in a 34 defense and would provide for depth at a position of need. Has been extremely prodctive throughout his career and not many players can say theyve had 261 tackles 21 sacks and most impressive 52 TFL. Could develop into a great backup for us and is a great role player.

7th) Shane Longest | K | St. Xavier
Well im not gonna lie Srover is getting up there in age and can really make anything past a 45 yarder. We could use a youth injection here, Longest has a strong leg not as good as Coutu's but i expect him to go higher. Will immediately take over on kickoffs and would allow us to try further FG's. Smart decision for the future, i do like Coutu and Mehlhalff more but as said before think they will go earlier

Thoughts and such...

Might as well add my rankings to get some more talk in the ravens forum
Rankings

QB
1.Matt Ryan Boston College
2.Brian Brohm Louisville
3.Joe Flacco Deleware
4.Erik Ainge Tennessee
5.Dennis Dixon Oregan
6.Chad Henne Michigan
7.John David Booty USC
8.Colt Brennan Hawaii
9.Kvin O'Connell San Diego St.
10.Andre Woodson Kentucky
11.Anthony Morelli Penn St.
12.Josh Johnson San Diego
13.Kyle Wright Miami (Fl.)
14.Matt Flynn LSU
15.Sam Keller Nebraska

RB
1.Jonathon Stewart Oregan
2.Rashard Mendenhall Illinois
3.Darren McFadden Arkansas
4.Jamaal Charles Texas
5.Chris Johnson East Carolina
6.Kevin Smith Central Florida
7.Felix Jones Arkansas
8.Ray Rice Rutgers
9.Matt Forte Tulane
10.Jacob Hester LSU
11.Steve Slaton West Virginia
12.Xavier Omon NW Missouri St.
13.Chauncey Washington USC
14.Mike Hart Michigan
15.Allen Patrick Oklahoma
16.Tashard Choice Georgia Tech.
17.Amir Pinnix Minnesota
18.Ryan Torian Arizona St.
19.Justin Forsett California
20.Dantrell Savage Oklahoma St.
21.Rafael Little Kentucky
22.Thomas Brown Georgia Tech.
23.Tony Temple Missouri
24.Albert Young Iowa
25.BenJarvus Green-Ellis Ole Miss
26.Tim Hightower Richmound
27.Chris Markey UCLA
28.Herschel Dennis USC
29.Alley Broussard Missouri Southern
30.Lynell Hamilton San Diego St.

WR
1.Devin Thomas Michigan St.
2.Malcolm Kelly Oklahoma
3.James Hardy Indiana
4.Limas Sweed Texas
5.Desean Jackson Cal
6.Mario Manningham Michigan
7.Jordy Nelson Kansas St.
8.Early Doucet LSU
9.Adarius Bowman Oklahoma St.
10.William Franklin Missori
11.Harry Douglas Louisville
12.Eddie Royal VT
13.Andre Caldwell Florida
14.Earl Bennet Vanderbilt
15.DJ Hall Alabama
16.Jerome Simpson Coustal Carolina
17.Keenan Burton Kentucky
18.Dorien Bryant Purdue
19.Lavelle Hawkins Cal
20.Josh Morgan VT
21.Adrian Arrington Michigan
22.Marcus Monk Arkansas
23.Marrio Urritia Louisville
24.Justin Harper VT
25.Todd Blythe Iowa St.
26.Taj Smith Syracus
27.Davone Bess Hawaii
28.Dexter Jackson Appalachin St.
29.Maurice Purify Nebraska
30.Darnell Jenkins Miami (Fl.)
31.Lance Leggett Miami (Fl.)
32.Cameron Colvin Oregon
33.De'Coddy Fagg Florida St.
34.Brandon Breazell UCLA


TE
1.John Carlson Notre Dame
2.Brad Cottam Tennessee
3.Fred Davis USC
4.Dustin Keller Purdue
5.Jermichael Finley Texas
6.Craig Stevens Cal
7.Kellen Davis Michigan St.
8.Martellus Bennet Texas A&M
9.Murtin Rucker Missouri
10.Jacob Tamme Kentucky
11.Adam Bishop Nevada
12.Darrell Strong Pitt.
13.Joey Haynos Maryland
14.Kolo Kapanui West Texas A&M
15.Matt Sherry Vilanova
16.Brad Listorti Umass

OT
1.Jake Long Michigan
2.Ryan Clady Boise
3.Jeff Ottah Pitt.
4.Chris Williams Vanderbilt
5.Gosder Cherlius Boston College
6.Anthony Collins Kansas
7.Sam Baker USC
8.Carl Nicks Nebraska
9.Tony Hills Texas
10.Barry Richardson Clemson
11.Heath Benedict Newberry
12.Kirk Barton Ohio St.
13.King Dunlap Auburn
14.Geoff Schwartz Oregon

OG
1.Brandon Albert Virginia
2.Eric Young Tennessee
3.Jeremy Zuttah Rutgers
4.Chilo Rachal USC
5.Oniel Cousins UTEP
6.Drew Radovich USC
7.Roy Schuening Oregon St.
8.Mackenzy Bernadeau Bentley College
9.Duane Brown VT
10.Robert Felton Arkansas
11.Chad Rinehart Northern Iowa
12.Mike McGlynn Pitt.
13.Kerry Brown Appalachin St.
14.Shannon Tevaga UCLA
15.Andrew Crummey Maryland
16.Adam Kraus Michigan
17.Will Arnold LSU
18.Jordan Grimes Purdue
19.Chris McDuffie Clemson
20.Andrew Bain Miami (Fl.)

C
1.Mike Pollack Arizona St.
2.John Sullivan Notre Dame
3.Steve Pollack Wake Forest
4.Fernando Velasco Georgia
5.Adam Speiker Missouri
6.Korey Lichtensteiger Bowling Greeb
7.Matt Spanos USC
8.Cody Wallace Texas A&M
9.Jamey Richard Buffalo
10.Doug Legursky Marshall


DE
1.Chris Long Virginia
2.Vernon Gholston Ohio St.
3.Phillip Merling Clemson
4.Calias Campbell Miami (Fl.)
5.Derrick Harvey Florida
6.Marcus Howard Georgia
7.Cliff Avril Purdue
8.Quentin Groves Auburn
9.Jason Jones Eastern Michigan
10.Lawrence Jackson USC
11.Chris Ellis VT
12.Darrell Robertson Georgia Tech.
13.Kendall Langford Hampton
14.Kenny Iwebema Iowa
15.Wallace Gilberry Alabama
16.Brian Johnston Gerdner Webb
17.Jeremy Thomspson Wake Forest
18.Johnny Dingle West Virginia
19.Louis Holmes Arizona
20.Jonal Saint-Dic Michigan St.
21.Chris Harrington Texas A&M
22.Marcus Dixon Hampton
23.Angelo Craig Cincinnati
24.Bryan Mattison Iowa
25.Eric Fosters Rutgers

DT
1.Glenn Dorsey LSU
2.Sedrick Ellis USC
3.Trevor Laws Notre Dame
4.Dre Moore Maryland
5.Kentwan Balmer North Carolina
6.Pat Sims Auburn
7.Marcus Harrison Arkansas
8.Ahtyba Rubin Iowa St.
9.Red Bryant Texas A&M
10.DeMario Pressley North Carolina St.
11.Nick Hayden Wisconsin
12.Andre Fluellen Florida St.
13.Letroy Guion Florida St.
14.Lionel Dotson Arizona
15.James McClinton Kansas
16.Frank Okam Texas
17.Maurice Murray New Mexico St.
18.Barry Booker VT
19.Carlton Powell VT
20.Keilen Dykes West Virginia
21.Jason Shirley Fresno St.
22.Frank Morton Tulane
23.Brigham Hartwell UCLA
24.Derek Lokey Texas

OLB
1.Keith Rivers USC
2.Erin Henderson Maryland
3.Tavares Gooden Miami (Fl.)
4.Ali Highsmith LSU
5.Xavier Abidi VT
6.Geno Hayes Florida St.
7.Shawn Crable Michigan
8.Bruce Davis UCLA
9.Jordan Dizon Colorado
10.Ezra Butler Nevada
11.Wesley Woodyard Kentucky
12.Robert James Arizona St.
13.Steve Octavien Nebraska
14.Robert Killebrew Texas
15.Curtis Johnson Clark-Atlanta
16.Larry Grant Ohio St.
17.Thomas Williams USC
18.Alvin Bowen Iowa St.
19.Gary Guton Georgia Tech
20.Curtis Gatewood Vanderbilt
21.Gryan Kehl BYU
22.Stanford Keglar Purdue
23.Nick Watkins Clemson
24.Mike Humpal Iowa
25.Marcus Richardson Troy

ILB
1.Phillip Wheeler Georgia Tech
2.Dan Connor Penn St.
3.Jerod Mayo Tennessee
4.Jonathon Goff Vanderbilt
5.Curtis Lofton Oklahoma
6.Beau Bell UNLV
7.Spencer Larsen Arizona
8.Jo Lonn Dunbar Boston College
9.Ben Moffitt USF
10.Vince Hall VT
11.Jeremy Leman Arizona
12.Jameel MacClain Syracuse
13.Steve Allen West Texas A&M
14.Corey Mckeon Nebraska

CB
1.Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Tennessee St.
2.Mike Jenkins USF
3.Leodis Mckelvin Troy
4.Justin King Penn St.
5.Brandon Flowers VT
6.Patrick Lee Auburn
7.Aqib Talib Kansas
8.Charles Godfrey Iowa
9.Tracy Porter Indiana
10.Antoine Cason Arizona
11.Chevis Jackson LSU
12.Tarrell Thomas USC
13.Dwight Lowery San Jose St.
14.DeJuan Tribble Boston College
15.Terrence Wheatley Colorado
16.Trae Williams USF
17.Jack Williams Kent St.
18.Zack Bowman Nebraska
19.Glenn Sharpe Miami (Fl.)
20.Simeon Castille Alabama
21.Orlando Scandrick Boise St.
22.Jack Ikegwuonu Wisconsin
23.Tyvon Branch Conneticut
24.Darnell Tarrell Missouri
25.Antwaun Molden Eastern Kentucky
26.Marcus Walker Oklahoma
27.Jonathon Zenon LSU
28.Brain Witherspoon Stillman
29.Materrall Richardson Arkansas

S
1.Kenny Phillips Miami (Fl.)
2.DaJuan Morgan North Carolina St.
3.Reggie Smith Oklahoma
4.Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame
5.Tyrell Johnson Arkansas St.
6.Thomas DeCoud California
7.Marcus Griffin Texas
8.Jonathon Hefney Tennessee
9.Josh Barrett Arizona St.
10.Craig Seltz LSU
11.Jamar Adams Michigan
12.DJ Wolfe Oklahoma
13.Jamie Silvia Boston College
14.Quentin Demps UTEP
15.Chris Horton UCLA
16.Darien Williams Oklahoma
17.Nehemiah Warrick Michigan St.
18.Dominique Barber Minnesota
19.DJ Parker VT
20.Ryan Mundy West Virginia
21.Michael Grant Arkansas
22.Joe Fields Syracuse
23.David Roach TCU
24.Caleb Campbell Army

And yes i know that the rankings are in the wrong forum but i dont post here much and thought might as well just leave it within the ravens board where i will be able to respond to any questions
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Who on earth did y'all lose last offseason to make you think your getting Comp picks in both the 3rd and 4th rounds, all I can think of is Thomas.

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Heres the projected ravens compensation picks;

Third: (Adalius Thomas, $6.9 million, 16/15)
Fourth: (Tony Pashos, $4.7 million, 15/15)
Sixth: (Ovie Mughelli, $3 million, 16/7)
Seventh: (Aubrayo Franklin, $2 million, 14/13)
*could turn into 6th

remember its all about what they get salary wise
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Heres the projected ravens compensation picks;

Third: (Adalius Thomas, $6.9 million, 16/15)
Fourth: (Tony Pashos, $4.7 million, 15/15)
Sixth: (Ovie Mughelli, $3 million, 16/7)
Seventh: (Aubrayo Franklin, $2 million, 14/13)
*could turn into 6th

remember its all about what they get salary wise
Do you know the salary brackets that determine these picks. I've been trying to find out forever.
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not a fan of any of the picks, TBH...cromartie is a huge reach at #8...im a big fan of his, and he has the look, but the fact that he hasnt played against premier or even good competition worries me greatly...

hardy- i still dont think that WR is a need that needs to be addresssed at the top of teh 2nd, considering we have sunk alot of resources into the position lately and we have solid depth there.

pollack- really? not only is it bad value there, but we just cut our starting centre so we can let chester play. not to mention if he goes down, brown can step in at centre and yanda can step in at G. dont like this pick at all, not sure if we will get a 3rd for adalius i think its more likely we get a 4th.

barber-i like the barber pick...although i might be a little more icnlined to take someone like hefney, who can slide into the nickel spot and play a little man. I view barber as a more in the box safety.

cory boyd- at this point, id be fine taking someone like adrian arrington here, i dont think investing a high pick in a WR is required but if its goode value down here, i think we go BPA we have a habit of doing that in the draft, especially in later rounds.

overall doobie, i will + rep you for your effort (the rankings are key) but overall, i do not like this draft you have given us. i think we hit on 2/7 of those picks (and although i dont like hardy, i guess he could make 3/7)
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well imo i do think DMC is of good value at #8 and could even see the patriots looking hard at him at #7. He has everything you look for and only knock on him is competition level and he showed to be more then able at the senior bowl having a great week and was the most impressive CB at the combine in almost every on field drill and test against the top competition in the draft, he is a player who i see making the transition rather smoothly from small school to NFL
Going Wr in the second is risky when guys there are other less risky picks available like on the DL. But he can add something to our offense that is needed, we have been looking for that big reciever for a while now and have gone through too many late round busts for me to want us to try that method again. Hardy is a guy who will help our redzone offense tremendously and imo that is the worst part of our offense we could never get a TD, we can move the ball just fine and Hardy paired with Heap will make S come out the box and open up the field for running when it gets to the goal line, and obviously we can throw it to him..I just think it is a great value pick along with the fact it helps our offense where it needs it most in the redzone.
My reasoning behind Pollack is that im not sold at all on Chris Chester, yes i love his potential and ability but Pollack brings insurane behind him and could be a potential starter should Chester falter. Also im not even sure we have a backup G or C under contract and we need to address that because one injury in the interior can really derail a whole season and injuries along the line and with our depth a player like Pollack is needed in the interior
While i agree that it may be more beneficial to get a roamer in the draft at S over Barber, id rather a guy who is going to contribute more on ST and with DRC picked early on we have enought depth to have nickel and dime packages in their without having to have a S come down and cover.
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