Arizona Cardinals Discussion Thread

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by Jensen

Does anybody know if Fitz or Q will play Sunday? Not going to be easy to beat Seattle if both of them are out.

Both are questionable and game time decisions, looks like we will be relying on Edge, Johnson, Pope and Breaston for most of our offense, I could see both of them playing but as more of a decoy role

[fenikz]

umm booo we lost bad, lol a week after saying Warner is our MVP, I completely regret it. I want Leinart back, no matter the stats he puts up atleast he can manage a game and we were 4-2 with him playing

[georgiafan]

Any news on how bad Pope is hurt ?

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by georgiafan

Any news on how bad Pope is hurt ?

dislocated ankle, done for the season

We have so many injuries to key players I'll be happy if we finish 7-9

Green(IR)
Wilson(IR)
Berry(IR)
Pope(IR)
Boldin
Leinart(IR)

[georgiafan]

Originally Posted by fenikz

dislocated ankle, done for the season

It looked like he was starting to improve atleast compared to his rookie year. Will TE be a need this offseason or will he be able to hang on to the starting job?

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by georgiafan

It looked like he was starting to improve atleast compared to his rookie year. Will TE be a need this offseason or will he be able to hang on to the starting job?

no we are set at TE, besides maybe a pure blocking one

Both Pope and Patrick look like huge steals at this point and both could blossom into very good players

[georgiafan]

Originally Posted by fenikz

no we are set at TE, besides maybe a pure blocking one

Both Pope and Patrick look like huge steals at this point and both could blossom into very good players

That's good to hear as I was a huge Pope fan and thought he would be one of the steals of the draft. It took him a year or two to make a impact in college also. He has never been the best blocker and was always good for one false start a game. But if he can fix those things he will be a quality starter.

[fenikz]

hey we actually beat a crappy team for once

[Jensen]

Originally Posted by fenikz

hey we actually beat a crappy team for once

The Cards tried as hard as they could to give it away.

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by Jensen

The Cards tried as hard as they could to give it away.

yep, the play calling in the second half was just terrible for both the offense and defense, if we are gonna go pass happy at least let Warner call the plays from a no huddle/hurry offense

[brat316]

at least the cards are going to finish 8-8

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

at least the cards are going to finish 8-8

if we can beat the Rams that is, which for us isn't a sure thing, because we are the Arizona Cardinals

[brat316]

yeah true that, i don't know what is going to happen next season with Warner and Linert. I want Matt to do good but he is from USC and part of the Pete Carol area. Most players drafted from their usually are ending up bust. Hopefully Matt doesn't, mainly because i just want him to be better than Young

[fenikz]

Right now Warner may be the better QB but Matt's style of managing a game works better with what Whis is doing, if we can get a consistent running game and build and elite defense we have the Talent for a superbowl run.

[d34ng3l021]

So I am pretty pissed off at how well Warner did against us. Not only that, I was facing him in FF championships. He dropped 37 points on me.

And now I am left with Tony Scheffler and San Diego defense against LaDainian Tomlinson.

Have a good day sir.

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by d34ng3l021

So I am pretty pissed off at how well Warner did against us. Not only that, I was facing him in FF championships. He dropped 37 points on me.

And now I am left with Tony Scheffler and San Diego defense against LaDainian Tomlinson.

Have a good day sir.

That's funny I have Warner on my team and I am left with LT and San Diego vs Tony Scheffler

and I am already up 100 to 71

[d34ng3l021]

Nice. You pretty much got it in the bag.

[fenikz]

through the season so far these are the overall rankings

Offense
YPG 338.9 (11th)
Rush YPG 88.4 (29th)
Pass YPG 250.5 (6th)
Pts/G 23.7 (9th)

Defense
YPG 336.6 (20th)
Rush YPG 99.5 (9th)
Pass YPG 237.1 (28th)
Pts/G 25.3 (28th)

Takeaways
INT 14 (17th)
FUM 11 (13th)
Total 25 (14th)

Turnovers
INT 22 (31st)
FUM 12 (19th)
Total 34 (T/31st)

+/- -9 (26th)

[Hines]

Cardinals GM Rod Graves indicated Thursday that he may consider slapping LB Karlos Dansby with the franchise tag this offseason.

"It's our intent to do everything we can to try to keep him here," Graves said. Contract talks have gone nowhere with Dansby, and he's open to the idea of wearing the tag. "I think it would be an honor," he said. "If that's the steps I have to take in order to get where I want to go, that's fine."

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

Cardinals GM Rod Graves indicated Thursday that he may consider slapping LB Karlos Dansby with the franchise tag this offseason.

"It's our intent to do everything we can to try to keep him here," Graves said. Contract talks have gone nowhere with Dansby, and he's open to the idea of wearing the tag. "I think it would be an honor," he said. "If that's the steps I have to take in order to get where I want to go, that's fine."

I figured that if we couldn't get him signed he would be franchised, whats the price for the tag something like 7 mil?

[Hines]

Originally Posted by fenikz

I figured that if we couldn't get him signed he would be franchised, whats the price for the tag something like 7 mil?

I am not quite sure. Who is the highest payed middle linebacker?

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by HinesWardJr

I am not quite sure. Who is the highest payed middle linebacker?

Ray Lewis is the highest at 8.4 Mil

Last year when Briggs was franchised he got 7.2 mil so it will probably be a little more than that

[Hines]

Cardinals GM Rod Graves says re-signing impending free agent LB Calvin Pace is his No. 1 priority this offseason.

The sides have been talking for the last few months. Pace, a former first-round draft pick, finally lived up to expectations in Arizona's new hybrid 3-4 defense. He can play both inside and outside linebacker.







Cardinals CB Antrel Rolle may be moved to free safety in 2008.

The move has been speculated about for years and makes sense if Arizona hadn't signed Terrence Holt to a pricy deal last offseason. Rolle is great on the ball and has the build, but he's more likely to stay at corner in 2008.



I like the idea of moving Rolle to saftey, as his agressivness kind of gets to him a little bit. He would be a great saftey to pair with Wilson.

[fenikz]

Pace wants to remain a Cardinal — “I don’t want to be the guy chasing money. I’m very comfortable here,” he said Sunday — and it’s unlikely he’ll attract top dollar in free agency, so chances are good he’ll be re-signed."


Dansby is likely to get the franchise tag slapped on him. The Cardinals last used the franchise designation in 2002 on safety Kwame Lassiter, but Dansby is a prime candidate, given Arizona likely can’t give both he and Pace long-term deals in the same offseason.


The wild card in the Cardinals’ plans?

Edgerrin James.

Don’t be shocked if James is wearing a different uniform next season. His salary cap number will be $5 million, and Whisenhunt is mindful of the fact that his former employer, the Pittsburgh Steelers, have an undrafted free agent in Willie Parker who is the NFL’s third-leading rusher.

Now, the Cardinals aren’t going to be stupid and dump James if they don’t have a capable replacement. They saw how well that worked out with Pete Kendall.

But if Arizona can find a quality running back in the draft, moving James for salary cap relief would make sense. The Indianapolis Colts did it, and they won a Super Bowl with his replacement, Joseph Addai.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/105560

[Jensen]

I'd only move James if we got McFadden in the draft, which we won't. I'd rather slap the franchise on Dansby, fill a position of need in the 1st round, and keep Edge than trade Edge to draft Stewart and sign Dansby long term. And it's not like we couldn't sign Dansby after next year either. The only way I would trade Edge is if we get a #1 CB or another good player in a position of need, which Edge probably wouldn't fetch at this point in his career.