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Old 03-21-2008, 04:21 PM    (permalink
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3305560

6 years-40 million-16 million in guarantees.

Clayton (for those that don't want to read it), said that he "knew he could have demanded more money", which I don't agree with at all. It's a fine deal for the Seahawks, but he still had 2 full years left on his rookie contract, and is now making more than Lance Briggs (6 years-36 million), who was on the open market. Linebackers that don't get sacks aren't worth as much in today's market.
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if i was a ruthless GM with no loyalty, i wouldn't resign a MIKE after his rookie contract unless he had Urlacher/Willis like physical ability.

Instinctual smart 4-3 MIKEs are dime a dozen really. I rather get one in the 2nd round than extend one for a lot more.

Easier said then done of course.
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Great, this means Al Davis will sign Kirk Morrison to an 8 year, 64 million dollar contract with 25 guaranteed. Thanks a lot Seattle.
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In light of recent contracts for players like Javon Walker, Tommy Kelly, Damien Woody, etc. that were all way overpaid how can people actually complain about a team retaining it's own pro bowl player at a reasonable contract? It's rediculous IMO.
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Who is complaining about it? And it's ridiculous.
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Great, this means Al Davis will sign Kirk Morrison to an 8 year, 64 million dollar contract with 25 guaranteed. Thanks a lot Seattle.
And Thomas Howard is a free agent in the same offseason.

I'm sure i'm not the only one praying for a solution to the salary cap so teams like the Raiders are screwed when the salary cap is still there in a couple of years.

But not sure why this means Morrison would get that much when Lofa Tatupu is the better player.
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Who is complaining about it? And it's ridiculous.
Complaining, disagreeing, however you want to put it. People are trying to say this is a bad contract when it pales in comparison to the contracts lesser players have signed with other teams.
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wow thank god we got Nick Barnett locked up last year. I wonder how much it will take to resign AJ Hawk now, oh no.
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Didn't AJ sign a 5 or 6 year deal two years ago?
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Complaining, disagreeing, however you want to put it. People are trying to say this is a bad contract when it pales in comparison to the contracts lesser players have signed with other teams.
I don't think it's a bad contract, I just disagree with Clayton that he could have gotten more. He signed it with two full years left on his original deal, and is still making more than Lance Briggs (who is at worst his equal). It's a fine deal, but in comparing him to someone like Julian Peterson, Peterson is a more valuable player, and was a free agent. It's just sad that Clayton wouldn't take any of that into account.
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Didn't AJ sign a 5 or 6 year deal two years ago?
yeah and with contracts going up, I am getting worried about the day we have to extend it.
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6 years-40 million-16 million in guarantees.

Clayton (for those that don't want to read it), said that he "knew he could have demanded more money", which I don't agree with at all. It's a fine deal for the Seahawks, but he still had 2 full years left on his rookie contract, and is now making more than Lance Briggs (6 years-36 million), who was on the open market. Linebackers that don't get sacks aren't worth as much in today's market.
Great signing for the seachickens. And I do think that he could have signed for more. I have to disagree that LB's who don't get sacks aren't worth that much, because he is a MLB in the 4-3 and he can make plays in other areas. He's not really utilized as a blitzer bc he has other responsibilities and they have players who already fit that role, so to say that he doesn't get sacks, doesn't mean that he couldn't if they used him more in that role. But the seahawks already have Peterson, Tapp Kearney and Rocky Bernard to rush the passer.

Tatupu averaged 115 tackles, nearly 10 pd's, 2 sacks a year, to go along with 5 ff's and 8 ints in the last 3 years. Those are a lot of game changing plays. I'll take his turn over and pass defensed numbers in the last 3 years over a high sack total any day.
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They aren't financially worth much, I'm not talking about on the field value. The #'s back that up. Calvin Pace got more money this year than Lance Briggs, why do you think that is?
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I'm sure i'm not the only one praying for a solution to the salary cap so teams like the Raiders are screwed when the salary cap is still there in a couple of years.
I honestly think that Al Davis thinks he'll be dead before the cap hit cripples the Raiders, and ergo wants to go out with the team on top.
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I honestly think that Al Davis thinks he'll be dead before the cap hit cripples the Raiders, and ergo wants to go out with the team on top.
Unfortunately for them they are still not the best team in the division much less the NFL. San Diego has actually been able to draft their talent and therefore is paying less for players that are better.
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6 years-40 million-16 million in guarantees.

Clayton (for those that don't want to read it), said that he "knew he could have demanded more money", which I don't agree with at all. It's a fine deal for the Seahawks, but he still had 2 full years left on his rookie contract, and is now making more than Lance Briggs (6 years-36 million), who was on the open market. Linebackers that don't get sacks aren't worth as much in today's market.

The fact that Lofa isn't even the highest paid LB on his team make sme think he could have demanded a lot more money, and Ruskell would have given it to him. He's making less money than a guy that signed his contract 2 years ago (Julian Peterson.)
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IMO he is worth more money. But what a steal for the seahawks. Great move.
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I wish the Falcons could hurry up and sign Boley. I am getting scared.
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Merriman is going to get an insane deal in a couple years. The Chargers will have to re-sign him, McNeil, Rivers, Cromartie, Castillo and Jackson among others so I think they might have to tag him if he's asking for too much.
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wow thank god we got Nick Barnett locked up last year. I wonder how much it will take to resign AJ Hawk now, oh no.
Hawk's already making $37.5 and we have him under contract for 4 more years. It's not like this signing affects us in anyway what so ever.
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6 years-40 million-16 million in guarantees.

Clayton (for those that don't want to read it), said that he "knew he could have demanded more money", which I don't agree with at all. It's a fine deal for the Seahawks, but he still had 2 full years left on his rookie contract, and is now making more than Lance Briggs (6 years-36 million), who was on the open market. Linebackers that don't get sacks aren't worth as much in today's market.
Not sure he's making more than Briggs, considering it being an extension and the last two years of his rookie contract remain - although surely money was moved around, namely him receiving right now new money from this extension. Let's say the total is 8 years, 41.5M .. that's less than Briggs on a per average level. Which is fitting.

Either way, good deal for the Seahawks. And for Tatupu, who I am a big big fan of. Ever since 2005, when I was in favor of him being ROTY over Merriman. He's been a big addition to the Seahawks defense, as the starting MLB since day one and as a leader, though he doesn't get the pub thanks to playing in Seattle. He's started for three years, proved himself, and the Seahawks wisely rewarded him.
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Not sure he's making more than Briggs, considering it being an extension and the last two years of his rookie contract remain - although surely money was moved around, namely him receiving right now new money from this extension. Let's say the total is 8 years, 41.5M .. that's less than Briggs on a per average level. Which is fitting.

Either way, good deal for the Seahawks. And for Tatupu, who I am a big big fan of. Ever since 2005, when I was in favor of him being ROTY over Merriman. He's been a big addition to the Seahawks defense, as the starting MLB since day one and as a leader, though he doesn't get the pub thanks to playing in Seattle. He's started for three years, proved himself, and the Seahawks wisely rewarded him.
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Um, no? :p

Playing in Seattle hurts him and almost every other player, except for maybe a few you can count with one hand (ex. Hasselbeck, Alexander). They're almost non-existant in terms of recognition, the Seahawks might have the best starting linebacker core in the league and who on Earth would know it.

Because they play for a team way out there in the midwest who don't really do anything of incredible merit to overcome that, and to be fair, the Seahawks were frauds last year - I hope I am remembering this right, but they didn't beat a team with a winning record since Arizona in Week 2 until the playoff win against the Redskins. And despite getting two gift Ryan Grant fumbles turned into an early two touchdown lead, the Packers smoked them in the playoffs.

You don't think this is true, GB?
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Well they don't get mentioned a lot in articles and tv shows, but if we're talking popularity Lofa's made 3 Pro Bowls already and Peterson's there almost every year. If anything you could say a team like Green Bay has been getting a low amount of attention. Nick Barnett arguably should've made te Pro Bowl over Tatupu each year, but he hasn't.
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