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Old 03-22-2008, 12:29 AM    (permalink
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Joe Thomas, Brady Quinn, Eric Wright, Brandon McDonald. Best class....so far.


Actually so far its the Giants. And for all you know Brady Quinn is the next Ryan Leaf.
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THE RAIDERS HAD BY FAR THE BEST CLASS........


i wish :(
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The Rams did pretty well with Carriker, Clifton Ryan, and Brian Leonard. Those guys should be good for years to come.

My Raiders whole draft hangs on Russell, but he will do well.
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The Rams did pretty well with Carriker, Clifton Ryan, and Brian Leonard. Those guys should be good for years to come.

My Raiders whole draft hangs on Russell, but he will do well.
Yes it does. Unless Miller somehow becomes a Hall of Famer, the pick that will define the draft will be Russell. If he does well, everyone will see it as a good draft. If he busts, the whole draft will be looked at as bad.
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Every time we talk about Russell i get a sickishly nervous feeling.
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The Titans' draft is almost impossible to grade; most of their draft picks never saw the field.

1.) S Michael Griffin - looks like a star in the making....a true playmaker. Funs like a corner, but hits like a safety. He was an immediate standout on ST, and when he finally broke into the lineup halfway through the season, he ended up with three INT's and at least one forced fumble, along with some very solid plays in coverage. I haven't been this impressed with a young safety since Bob Sanders.

2.) RB Chris Henry - hard to say. He demonstrated remarkable upside at times, but other times he showed a serious lack of vision and questionable instincts. If nothing else, he was very effective as a receiver out of the backfield, and was surprisingly good in pass protection. I have no idea whether he'll be a big part of the running game, but at the very least, he could be the biggest and most physical 3rd down back in the league.

3.) WR Paul Willliams - was inactive for every game. He supposedly stepped things up in practice toward the end of the season, but he didn't play special teams...and the Titans were fighting for a playoff berth, they weren't taking any chances.

4a.) OL Leroy Harris - was inactive for every game. The coaches supposedly love the kid, and fully expect he'll be ready to start this year. Probably could have seen the field last year, but the OL stayed relatively healthy most of the season, and they never needed Harris.

4b.) WR Chris Davis - small and not particularly fast, but with terrific quickness and lateral movement. Davis showed promise and the ability to move well in traffic, but coughed the ball up several times, and was as green as he could possibly be. He could develop into another Derrick Mason, or he could wash out in a year or two.

5.) DT Antonio Johnson - tore his achilles' early in camp. Not many guys come back from an achilles, especially not in a single year; sad to say, he'll be lucky just to make the roster.

6a.) WR Joel Filani - cut
6b.) DE Jacob Ford - torn ACL in camp....tough injury for a guy whose primary strengths are his burst and speed off the edge.
6c.) CB Ryan Smith - cut

7.) OT Mike Otto - signed to PS. Supposedly a very good pass blocker, but with the Titans depth along the OL and the depth in the draft, he'll have to fight for a roster spot.

All in all, I guess I'd give the Titans a C+. It would be a D, but Griffin's performance raises it a letter and a half.
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Yes it does. Unless Miller somehow becomes a Hall of Famer, the pick that will define the draft will be Russell. If he does well, everyone will see it as a good draft. If he busts, the whole draft will be looked at as bad.
I liked what I saw in his start, I like that he showed up to the voluntary workouts two weeks early, that does not sound like some one who is taking things for granted. He said at the end of the season he looked forward to it and to putting in the extra work needed. People can talk smack, he's gonna be a player in this league for years to come.
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The Titans will be lucky if there are 3 players from this class still on the team in 3 years.
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Lynch- looked really good
Poz- injured early, but looked good
Edwards- new starting QB
Wright- 3rd string HB
Schouman- IR
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Pretty much.

The only player who I would say looks like a long time contributer for the Falcons is Laurent Robinson, who was third in rookie receiving yards as a fourth, fifth if you count Crumpler, receiver. And he was raw, being out of Illinois State. He just needs to work on his concentration and not fumbling.

But we got a ton of players who got playing time and will have roles with the team, so that is good.
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I would say D becouse of P.Thomas but that is the only good thing out of or draft.
he WASNT drafted ;)
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Not saying the Texans had a great draft by any means....but were fairly solid

1) Amobi Okoye- Started from game 1, produced, and then seemed to hit a bit of a wall....very promising prospect

2) Traded for Schaub- who was good when he played, got hurt tho

3) Jacoby Jones- Promising preseason, didnt see field much during the year....also hurt shoulder

4) Fred Bennett- Started the year as a backup but was a starter at the end of the year due to Dunta's Injury and Petey Faggins sucking

5) Brandon Harrison- Got hurt in TC and was on IR

5) Brandon Frye- PS, but is said to have a future

6) Kasey Studdard- Got some PT towards the end of the year, Kubiak likes him

7) Zac Diles- played a bit towards the end of the year, has a great shot at starting this year

FA: Darius Walker stepped in a did a good job at the end of the year....Could be solid
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I give the Broncos draft in 2007 a F- times infinity.
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Round 1 : WR Robert Meachem : didnt even dressed for gameday , while i still like the pick , you looking forward to see some sort of impact from your first round guy
Round 2 : traded down to pick G Andy Alleman and CB Usama Young
alleman right now is a undersized OL who fits best as a center , were loudmouthing before the season , was getting pushed around by 3rd stringers in pre-season.

Young , was a workout warrior who went two rounds to early , payton seems to start a trend with small school guys, while it was successfull with jahri evans and colston the year before , in 07 it was all about wanting to be extra-cute and we missed some real good players. i doubt that young will ever get start for us , without a starter getting hurt.

4th round : we threw out two picks for antonio pittman , who is the third RB for the rams right now , after having a real weak camp with us. the pick makes no sense in two ways :
first he would never been starter or even backup , while deuce and reggie both were healthy and stecker was the third RB. second we got pierre thomas as an UDFA who completely outplayed him in camp , i would have a better feeling if we had spent the original 4th round pick on this guy and letting antonio pittman free fall ( for some reason )

5th rounder CB David Jones got cut after pre-season , despite looking more polished than usama young

6th round OT jermon bushrod is a capable backup , pushing for RT spot next year.

all and all pretty bad : D- ( only because meachem has great potential )
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Packers 2007

2007 1 16 Justin Harrell DT - C+
2007 2 63 Brandon Jackson RB - C-
2007 3 78 James Jones WR - B+
2007 3 89 Aaron Rouse S - B
2007 4 119 Allen Barbre T/G - C-
2007 5 157 David Clowney WR - F
2007 6 191 Korey Hall FB - A
2007 6 192 Desmond Bishop LB - C-
2007 6 193 Mason Crosby K - A-
2007 7 228 DeShawn Wynn RB - C+
2007 7 243 Clark Harris TE - F

Looks about right I think, 9 of 11 players still here. A couple players were already solid contributers this year and will have bigger roles next year. Some were hard to give a grade because we havent really seen alot of them yet.
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Way too early to grade this, teams like Atlanta who didn't let rookies get much PT other than Anderson who needs more time to develop, but Houston and Robinson show promise, Blalock played well, then Nicholas when he wasn't injured played very well. Datish showed promise before injury in camp and could really make an impact. It's going to be a great class for the Falcons, but it'll take a little while.
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Way too early to grade this, teams like Atlanta who didn't let rookies get much PT other than Anderson who needs more time to develop, but Houston and Robinson show promise, Blalock played well, then Nicholas when he wasn't injured played very well. Datish showed promise before injury in camp and could really make an impact. It's going to be a great class for the Falcons, but it'll take a little while.
Most of our top rookies got tons of experience this year. Laurent Robinson, Jamaal Anderson, Chris Houston, and Justin Blalock all saw the majority of the offensive or defensive snaps, whichever side of the ball they play. Stephen Nicholas saw significant action, as did Martrez Milner before injury. Daren Stone was the primary backup at strong safety, which is good for a sixth round pick, and David Irons was our dime or quarter most of the time. Jason Snelling saw short yardage situations. Trey Lewis started after Grady Jackson was released and did so and did so well until his ACL tear injury. Then undrafted players like the Louisville offensive tackle we brought in, Foster I think, saw playing time and even started a game or two.

Our rookies saw more action than the average, by a good bit I would say.
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I liked what I saw in his start, I like that he showed up to the voluntary workouts two weeks early, that does not sound like some one who is taking things for granted. He said at the end of the season he looked forward to it and to putting in the extra work needed. People can talk smack, he's gonna be a player in this league for years to come.
His first couple games were fine, but I really like these two things. What makes a great QB is their dedication and determination. You can say "I want to be great" all you want, but it's those players showing up weeks early, working out/working with coaches 2-3 hours early and then staying hours later to do position drills, working out again and watching film.

When I was coaching track, everyone said they wanted to be fast. Everyone set a goal of how much they wanted to drop their time in each event. But the ones who showed they actually wanted to do it were the ones who ran extra sprints, did plyos, did ab workouts 1-2 hours after each practice. The ones who actually reached their goal were the ones who actually put in the extra effort in every practice to see that goal realized.

Russell said that he wanted to be great, him showing up early and putting in all that time with Knapp right now is what speaks volumes to me.
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I posted this a little while back in the Rams forum

2007 (A little early to grade, but I'll give it a shot)
1 13 13 Adam Carriker DE ............People who watched the Rams were impressed by his play, I'm very excited about him, A
2 20 52 Brian Leonard RB .............Could develop into an excellent weapon and dual threat, B
3 21 84 Jonathan Wade DB ..........I am really high on him, when you question who is faster between Tye Hill and Wade you know Wade must be electrifyingly fast. Still a little raw, but he could develop into a very good CB, B
5 2 139 Dustin Fry C ...................It's probably too early to judge him because he hasn't had a chance to play, but that is because he didn't outperform Romberg and McCullum, so I'll hold that against him a little, C-
5 17 154 Clifton Ryan DT .............Many, including me, are very high on Ryan. When he was in he seemed to dominate. Best case scenario is that he and Carriker can anchor the line, A
6 16 190 Ken Shackleford T .........When a team has as many injuries on the O-line as the Rams did and you still don't see the field you must not be very good at all, F
7 38 248 Keith Jackson DT ...........No longer with the team, didn't get to see him very much, F
7 39 249 Derek Stanley WR ..........Dominated D-II or D-III, which ever he was in. It's too early to tell so I'm not grading him

So early in their careers I would give this draft a B or B+. It could rise if Clifton Ryan continues to play like he did last year.
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I HATED the Cardinals' draft on draft weekend, and now I am still against it.

Russ Grimm is a great OL coach, but as for talent evaluations... Levi Brown? At 5? Better than Joe Thomas Russ Grimm thought!!! Teams that make such picks tend to have lots more high picks. It's not that Brown is a bad player, he will be a good RT for 10+ years, but in the top 5, you want a superstar, a franchise kind of guy. Not just a guy. I was well down on Brown before the draft, and he has shown me nothing since to inspire me. A good RT, yes, but that's it folks.

Alan Branch was decent value at #34, but for a team with so many holes, why give up our 4th round pick as well? To be fair, we could not have predicted Gabe Watson finally getting into shape and giving a damn, but now we are left with our 2nd and 4th round picks being likely backups. Sure, he can spell Watson and be a reasonable DE to spell Darnell Dockett and Antonio Smith, but that is a luxury we cannot afford.

Our 3rd round pick, Buster Davis, didn't make it out of Training Camp. Great scouting!

Our 5th round pick, Steve Breaston, is a decent return man (Although after seeing Antrel Rolle's INT returns this year, I'd love for him to get a shot as well) but he won't be confused with Josh Cribbs / Devin Hester. He does have a chance to be our #3 this season tho, so I'll see how that goes.

I loved our 7th round pick, Ben Patrick, who is a very good receiving TE and was excellent value. He started slow, but came on late and looks to have a load of potential. However, when your 7th round pick is your best...
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The best first day picks was by the Bills.

Marshawn Lynch- Absolute beast. He is going to be amazing for years to come.

Paul Posluszny- Lead our team in tackles before he got injured. Just is a tackling machine.

Trent Edwards- Smart and accurate QB. Going to be our starter.

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I give the Broncos draft in 2007 a F- times infinity.
Tim Crowder wasn't bad this season, Jarvis Moss pick was awful, Ryan Harris has been talked up by people in the organization, and Marcus Thomas showed some potential.


But ya I give them an F because they traded up for two Florida players.
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John Holmes is a better and more productive penetrator than Jamaal Anderson.
I'd say Ron Jeremy owns both of them in the penetration departement.
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Pretty much.

The only player who I would say looks like a long time contributer for the Falcons is Laurent Robinson, who was third in rookie receiving yards as a fourth, fifth if you count Crumpler, receiver. And he was raw, being out of Illinois State. He just needs to work on his concentration and not fumbling.

But we got a ton of players who got playing time and will have roles with the team, so that is good.

I disagree. At the very least Blalock is going to be a decent guard for us. I also really like Houston's potential.
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