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Old 03-24-2008, 05:25 PM    (permalink
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Default San Fransisco Penalized for Briggs Tampering

just herd per ESPN that San Fran has to give up there 5th round pick and swap third round picks with the Bears
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Default 49ers penalized for tampering with Lance Briggs

49ers will be penalized a 5th round pick and have to swap 3rds with Chicago due to tampering with Lance Briggs. Just on sportscenter no link yet.
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Default Per ESPN Breaking News: 49ers caught w/ Briggs tampering

Per ESPN Breaking news, the 49ers have been charged with tampering by talking with Briggs before the season had ended.

As result, the 49ers loose their 5th round draft pick and must swap their 3rd rounder with the Bears 3rd rounder.

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Hahaha...thanks Niners. We get to keep Briggs and get a much better 3rd rounder.

And everyone said it was foolish for the Bears to even challenge...

That's 4 picks in the first 75 picks now. Should be a pretty good draft.
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That is rediculous, almost every team does it.
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Hahaha 3 within a minute, we needa merge :P

But yes Bama, I agree.
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Well as far i heard he didnt really fit their scheme, but tampering is done all the time, idk if they should be taking away draft picks or switching them or whatever
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Yea they were found guilty of tampering charges.

Changing spots in the 3rd basically amounts to another 4th round pick as that's the value they would have to give up value wise to move up that high in the 3rd.

I know they are low picks but I think it's pretty steep for just talking to the guy when the Pats only gave up a low 1st for flat out blatant cheating.

If the price for talking to a player that isn't part of your team is a 4th and a 5th then the price for flat out getting caught cheating needs to be much higher then just a very, very low 1st.

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Aw nuts, I forgot that our pick was the 75th pick, not the 90th (which we got from the Chargers). Oh well, it really works out to the Niners losing a 5th and a 6th, not a big deal.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7...iggs-tampering

just a source. man this popped up a few places here.....anyway, ill take it. though i wish they gave us that 5th rounder too......
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Good thing the 49ers don't have many needs.
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Aw nuts, I forgot that our pick was the 75th pick, not the 90th (which we got from the Chargers). Oh well, it really works out to the Niners losing a 5th and a 6th, not a big deal.
Check your math. The difference between the 39 and 44 overall picks is 50 points. That amounts to a mid 4th rounder. That's a steep price.

A mid 4th and a fairly high 5th is really steep.

Basically added all together the Niners gave up a high 4th round pick (value wise) for talking to a player.

The Pats gave up a really really low 1st for getting caught cheating. Something doesn't add up in my book. Maybe it's just me but what the Pats did was so much worse then what the Niners did and I don't think the punishment is adding up. Either the Niners got hit way too hard or the Pats got hit way, way too easy.

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Check your math. The difference between the 39 and 44 overall picks is 50 points. That amounts to a mid 4th rounder. That's a steep price.

A mid 4th and a fairly high 5th is really steep.

Basically added all together the Niners gave up a high 4th round pick (value wise) for talking to a player.

The Pats gave up a really really low 1st for getting caught cheating. Something doesn't add up in my book. Maybe it's just me but what the Pats did was so much worse then what the Niners did and I don't think the punishment is adding up. Either the Niners got hit way too hard or the Pats got hit way, way too easy.
They switched 3rds, not 2nds. The difference is 25 points.
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Check your math. The difference between the 39 and 44 overall picks is 50 points. That amounts to a mid 4th rounder. That's a steep price.

A mid 4th and a fairly high 5th is really steep.

Basically added all together the Niners gave up a high 4th round pick (value wise) for talking to a player.

The Pats gave up a really really low 1st for getting caught cheating. Something doesn't add up in my book. Maybe it's just me but what the Pats did was so much worse then what the Niners did and I don't think the punishment is adding up. Either the Niners got hit way too hard or the Pats got hit way, way too easy.
Check your math, we swapped the 70th and the 75th picks.
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Lost out on the player and lost a pick lame for them great for the Bears.
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The penalty is not such a huge loss, although I do think it sets a precedent for teams moaning about tampering every time it happens in the hopes that they may get to switch draft positions with a team with a higher pick.

IMO the league should have just penalized the 49ers the 5th and been done with it, rather, than giving the bears the 3rd round pick it sets up a dumb precedent for something that doesn't even really help the bears all to much.

The thing that makes this such a mess is that reports say that the 49ers contacted Drew Rosenhaus... who is also the agent of Frank Gore who is already on our team. It's very easy for a team to contact an agent who they already work with and just be like "so how about (insert potential free agents name)" and that would be considered tampering.
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I wonder if we will get a pick for the Dolphins tampering with Smiley.
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I'm actually quite pleased with sliding up in the 3rd. This does offer more flexibility. With the 2nd day now starting in the 3rd round, there stands a possibility that teams will revisit their boards after the first 2 rounds and target specific players at the start of day 2. Or if the Bears feel like moving up to secure someone, it makes that possibility a bit easier now.

Overall, this is big news. Very big. The picks may not be much, but it's the "Goodell Doctrine" for the NFL essentially. He's going to come down hard on things. I could see teams targeting other teams next offseason as a result to try and gain any sort of advantage.
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Well....we cheated and got caught.

Just cause everyone does it doesn't make it right. The sad part is teams will continue to tamper...just hide it better and nobody else will be penalized.

Heck...I'm sure the Bears have even tampered plenty of times. Its a d*** move by the bears, but whats done is done and the penalty isn't horrible.
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good news for the nfc west i guess, but not that big of deal im sure everyone does it
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