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Old 04-14-2008, 08:39 PM    (permalink
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AD and Marion Barber III would be a great tandem.
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Honestly guys, and this is coming from a Giants fan...Brandon Jacobs isn't that great.

He's too big to fit through holes that aren't huge, he has poor vision, no first step, and no cutback ability. He's a glorified goalline back. I honestly rather start Bradshaw over him.
i completely agree, but i think jacobs will get better if he can stay healthy, he really wears down defenses. I would too start Bradshaw.
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right now id say AD and Bradshaw, they both have great speed and power, both good in run and passing game, not sure how good AD is in pass protection but Bradshaw is pretty good for his size. Really nice young combo IMO
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Steve Jackson and LT, or AP... Power and speed
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AP and LT would be the best one hands down

but my sleeper tandem would be Brandon Jacobs and Willie Parker, itd be tough to beat that combo of speed and power
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Ahmed Bradshaw would be part of the perfect 2 back system? I think we're stretching just a little bit now ;)
It would be for my personal preference of a two back system, yes.

As BBD eluded to, what's the point of everyone just saying AD and Tomlinson, or Tomlinson and Westbrook?
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if i really wanted a good two back system it would be LT and westbrook, but if i wanted a young and less expensive duo, it would definately be AD and Bradshaw. I like youth so AD and Bradshaw would be my picks
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I think that I would have to go with Adrian Peterson and Brian Westbrook which seems to be a pretty popular selection.

I just can't see how you wouldn't want AD's dynamic ground work and Westbrooks amazing pass catching ability in a two back system.
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I honestly see no way how anyone can go any other way than LT and AD.
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I dont really think that Jacobs is overrated, by who is he overrated? No one says hes a top 10 back. In 11 games last year he averaged 91.7 yards per game, 3rd place behind LDT with 92.1 and Peterson with 95.8 yards per game. Not to mention he only played in the first quarter of the 1st game of the year (Dallas game), if you factored only .25 for that game it would be something like 98.4 yards per game (dont know what Petersons would be if he didnt get hurt in a few games) but even so 91.7 isnt too shabby at all. He was 13th in the league with 18.4 attempts per game, with 7 players that were in the top 10 yards per game statistic having more attempts per game then him.

He was also 5th in the league with 5.0 yards per carry (backs with over 150 carries) while only having 4 runs go 20+ yards, makes that stat even more impressive since he was not breaking off 50 yarders every other game. Sure hes not a threat to break the long one a lot but he gets you consistant yardage (I think he had the least stops for loss out of any RB last year).

While he is not the ideal number 1 back he sure does well in his role, he is a great RB for a 2 back system, pair him with Westbrook and thats one SCARY backfield. He wasnt that great in the begining of the year at blocking but he was fantastic in the middle and towards the end of the year at blocking (he never really had to block with Tiki here). Watch the Superbowl and see how many key blocks he made (check out the block on the Burress TD where he goes from the left side, slides all the way right and picks up Harrison giving Eli enough time to throw the TD pass).
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I love Marion Barber. LT is my all-time favorite behind Barry Sanders, so I think him and Barber would be a fun backfield. LT can do anything and everything and Barber will run you over play after play. I have a feeling there is more than one DB in the NFL that is afraid to tackle Barber?
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There's a reason Bettis was drafted in the top ten.
Bettis was a beast in his early days after the Rams. He had a solid fast time at his combine, but was just as quick on the field. I dont think Jacobs plays as fast on the field as Bettis could.

I really respect Jamal Lewis' footwork as a big running back, even Jacobs, but Bettis wrote the book.
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Shoot, the Chargers had it with LT and Michael Turner. Their games just compliment each other perfectly.
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Assuming that we're trying to pair two backs who's skills compliment each other, not just sticking two very awesome and well rounded backs in the same backfield together, I'd say that Jamal Lewis from before he was sent for jail and Brian Westbrook would have made a tandem that would give defenses complete nightmares.
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I dont really think that Jacobs is overrated, by who is he overrated? No one says hes a top 10 back. In 11 games last year he averaged 91.7 yards per game, 3rd place behind LDT with 92.1 and Peterson with 95.8 yards per game. Not to mention he only played in the first quarter of the 1st game of the year (Dallas game), if you factored only .25 for that game it would be something like 98.4 yards per game (dont know what Petersons would be if he didnt get hurt in a few games) but even so 91.7 isnt too shabby at all. He was 13th in the league with 18.4 attempts per game, with 7 players that were in the top 10 yards per game statistic having more attempts per game then him.

He was also 5th in the league with 5.0 yards per carry (backs with over 150 carries) while only having 4 runs go 20+ yards, makes that stat even more impressive since he was not breaking off 50 yarders every other game. Sure hes not a threat to break the long one a lot but he gets you consistant yardage (I think he had the least stops for loss out of any RB last year).

While he is not the ideal number 1 back he sure does well in his role, he is a great RB for a 2 back system, pair him with Westbrook and thats one SCARY backfield. He wasnt that great in the begining of the year at blocking but he was fantastic in the middle and towards the end of the year at blocking (he never really had to block with Tiki here). Watch the Superbowl and see how many key blocks he made (check out the block on the Burress TD where he goes from the left side, slides all the way right and picks up Harrison giving Eli enough time to throw the TD pass).
I think he's overrated in the sense that some people view him as the top sheer power back in the league, or close to it. He basically just a big body to fall over the goal line.

I think Bradshaw and Barber are both tougher runners (meaning they keep the legs churning), have better vision, both cut much better, and Barber is a very dependable receiver (not sure about Bradshaw)

Jacobs vision leaves a lot to be desired, he doesn't seem to cut well, and he isn't nearly the truck people make him out to be.

I think his style works against him. Everyone predicted he would have trouble staying healthy since his big frame takes so many hits. He doesn't offer much in the pass game either.
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They compliment the hell out of each other perfectly...

I can't picture Tomlinson in a true 2 back system just because he's such a friggin workhorse...

LJ and Westbrook wouldn't be bad either, but I'm not an LJ fan...
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Larry Johnson with Marion Barber III and Steven Jackson + Brandon Jacobs.

Could you imagine how ****** it would be to play defense against these guys? Or these guys:

LaDainian Tomlinson with Brian Westbrook and a dose of Jerious Norwood.

Or just this:

Ladainian Tomlinson with Adrian Peterson.
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Mendenhall or Stewarts thunder with DeAngelo Williams would be an amazing duo imo.
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Would you really look to draft one of those guys with your top pick? The only reason I dont give RBs to the Panthers in my mocks is because I was a huge fan of DeAngelo coming out. You think he cant handle the load?
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I dont really think that Jacobs is overrated, by who is he overrated? No one says hes a top 10 back. In 11 games last year he averaged 91.7 yards per game, 3rd place behind LDT with 92.1 and Peterson with 95.8 yards per game. Not to mention he only played in the first quarter of the 1st game of the year (Dallas game), if you factored only .25 for that game it would be something like 98.4 yards per game (dont know what Petersons would be if he didnt get hurt in a few games) but even so 91.7 isnt too shabby at all. He was 13th in the league with 18.4 attempts per game, with 7 players that were in the top 10 yards per game statistic having more attempts per game then him.

He was also 5th in the league with 5.0 yards per carry (backs with over 150 carries) while only having 4 runs go 20+ yards, makes that stat even more impressive since he was not breaking off 50 yarders every other game. Sure hes not a threat to break the long one a lot but he gets you consistant yardage (I think he had the least stops for loss out of any RB last year).

While he is not the ideal number 1 back he sure does well in his role, he is a great RB for a 2 back system, pair him with Westbrook and thats one SCARY backfield. He wasnt that great in the begining of the year at blocking but he was fantastic in the middle and towards the end of the year at blocking (he never really had to block with Tiki here). Watch the Superbowl and see how many key blocks he made (check out the block on the Burress TD where he goes from the left side, slides all the way right and picks up Harrison giving Eli enough time to throw the TD pass).
that is very true. that is probably one of the more overlooked aspects of that SB.

The numbers make him sound like a beast, but i dunno. When i see him play, im just not that impressed. I like him as part of a 2 back system, but i rather give majority carries to Bradshaw.

I also firmly believe that our oline is the real reason why our run game is so good. You can plug anyone in back there and they produce. The only reason why i wouldn't give Bradshaw the majority carries next year is because his small frame will wear down. If he was capable of carrying the ball 20 times a game for a whole season, Bradshaw would be one of the best backs in the league behind our oline. Of course however, thats wishful thinking, because I don't think he can withstand that kind of punishment. But give him 12-13 carries a game, and watch what he can do. Remember, he only averaged like 8 carries a game in the postseason.
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