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Old 04-17-2008, 11:49 AM    (permalink
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we did players, why not coaches?

They have to be head coaches btw. Going into DCs and OCs would be overkill.


My list:

1. Wade Phillips: Gave no credit to the Giants after losing, was more worried about stats during the season then being ready for the playoffs, took veiled shots at Parcells when he hasn't accomplished a thing in his career, took a sack away from Osi bc he wanted Ware to finish with more sacks, and just not a very good leader of men. Everytime they interview him he sounds like a dope, i feel like going to sleep every time he talks.

2. Mike Nolan: just a bad head coach. I like his attitude, but the decisions he's made since the day he's become coach, i don't think ive disagreed with a coach more than Mike Nolan. he needs to go.

3. Romeo Crennel: he's just a tool really. the success they had was because of an offensive wake up, not bc of Crennell. This guy needed a coin toss to decide who his qb was going to be? He just rode Bellichick's coattails to a HC position.

4. Marvin Lewis: just comes off as a phony guy to me. and has never really done anything. anyone couldve coached that Ravens defense. what has he done since? i give him making the Bengals meaningful again, but he also made the mess that is the Bengals today. Didn't do a damn thing with that defense. Shouldve already been fired.

I know some expected Coughlin in there. We have a love/hate relationship. We're in the love phase right now.
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1. Wade Phillips: Gave no credit to the Giants after losing, was more worried about stats during the season then being ready for the playoffs, took veiled shots at Parcells when he hasn't accomplished a thing in his career, took a sack away from Osi bc he wanted Ware to finish with more sacks, and just not a very good leader of men.
I despise Wade Phillips. He looks lost and confused on the sidelines and he has no idea what's going on. Bill Parcells and Jerry Jones made that team, Phillips had nothing to do with their success, and the talk last year of him getting Coach of the Year was ridiculous.

I also don't have a lot of love for Belicheck, Lovie Smith, and Mike Shanahan.
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2. Mike Nolan: just a bad head coach. I like his attitude, but the decisions he's made since the day he's become coach, i don't think ive disagreed with a coach more than Mike Nolan. he needs to go.
I don't think he's terrible...but i have a worse opinion of him today than i did at this time last year.

I hate his game management though...he is either way too conservative (not going for it on 4th and inches, kicking a field goal with less than 2 minutes in a game after being down by 7) or too stupidely agressive (going for it on 4th and 3 at the opponent 20 yard line when down 17-0 in the 3rd quarter). And he holds on to starters too long...Trent Dilfer should not have started 7 games this season, Darrell Jackson shouldn't have started 15, etc..

The real problem of this team has been revolving doors for OC's. Say what you will, but not many head coaches know offense and defense. An offensive HC will need a stable DC, and vice versa.
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I despise Wade Phillips. He looks lost and confused on the sidelines and he has no idea what's going on. Bill Parcells and Jerry Jones made that team, Phillips had nothing to do with their success, and the talk last year of him getting Coach of the Year was ridiculous.

I also don't have a lot of love for Belicheck, Lovie Smith, and Mike Shanahan.
well, while i think his "improvements" on defense have been exaggerated, we do have to give him some credit. he did improve in some ways, but the same issues in my eyes remained the same: they still couldn't stop teams from throwing on them, despite increased sack numbers. they were always good against the run.

as for their record, i think that was a combination of 3 things.

1. Romo growing into his own and playing a whole season
2. Garrett taking the offense to the next step
3. Phillip's personality being a breathe of fresh air

so while i think Phillips is not a good coach and is primarily just riding a ready made team, i will give him some credit, although not as much as others do.

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I don't think he's terrible...but i have a worse opinion of him today than i did at this time last year.

I hate his game management though...he is either way too conservative (not going for it on 4th and inches, kicking a field goal with less than 2 minutes in a game after being down by 7) or too stupidely agressive (going for it on 4th and 3 at the opponent 20 yard line when down 17-0 in the 3rd quarter). And he holds on to starters too long...Trent Dilfer should not have started 7 games this season, Darrell Jackson shouldn't have started 15, etc..

The real problem of this team has been revolving doors for OC's. Say what you will, but not many head coaches know offense and defense. An offensive HC will need a stable DC, and vice versa.
that is true. Coughlin is an example of this. but personell decisions are poor in my eyes too. Does he honestly think Martz is going to work for him? thats a terrible fit. a lot of player personnel decisions i disagree with too.

I like his attitude, i think he's a decent DC, but he's just not a HC in my eyes.
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Romeo is not a great coach, but he's one of the most likable head coaches in the NFL. Everyone hates Belicheck, Shanahan, and Norv Turner. Personally I don't like Wade Phillips, Marvin Lewis, or Bam Childress too much.
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You know I just can't figure Marvin Lewis out. I think he helped assemble that Raven's Defense. He also helped rebuild the city of New Orleans, I mean the Bengals. Unfortunately the defense that he built was made on the bulwarks of bad character guys that Marvin Lewis did not want to bring there in the first place. Chad Johnson was on of those guys, and look what's happening with that. I feel that if Marvin Lewis is given three more years, he will have that team back on track, but I am not sure he is going to get that.
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I cant really argue with the Wade Phillip comments, because I pretty much agree...The 2nd half of the Giants game he looked like a Deer in front of headlights, he's also not a great motivator, thats why I was so happy we over paid Garrett, Im pretty sure he will take over our 1st season in the new stadium.


But I dislike Marvin Lewis, dont understand why he's been given so many chances, and he has yet to turn around that defense, Crennel is finally getting his defense together as a DC that should be priority, why has Cincy been consistently so bad on that side of the ball? This is his last year anyway and he's gone.
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Good thing he is with the Bears now.


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I hate Wade Phillips.

He's Jerry's little puppet and acts like he has credentials. The only think he's managed to do was take what Parcells set up for him, and still not win jack squat.

I also hate Norv Turner because he's Norv Turner.
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Wade Phillips is easily #1 for me. I remember before the 2nd eagles-cowboys game I saw a press conference for him and he was talking about how the lions were a good team and how they were 6-2 for a reason and stuff, then a reporter asked him if he thought the eagles were good and he laughed and said no with a smug look on his face and the whole room started laughing. Then the eagles proceeded to beat them a few days later and the look on his face was priceless. It's also funny how he thought the lions were good and the eagles weren't yet the eagles beat the lions 56-21 earlier in the season.
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