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Old 04-21-2008, 08:09 PM    (permalink
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Yeah, look how well they got that type of deal last year when Calvin Johnson fell to their pick.
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Is he supposed to sign Willams (a FA after 08) long-term, BBD? You never struck me as a guy who would spend big money on two receivers at once.
good question.

Me personally, I feel that the WR position is the most overrated position in football, and I wouldn't even draft one in the first round. Id get mine exclusively through later rounds and FA.

However, in Detroit's case, I think they need to hold onto as much talent as they can long term as possible. Let's face it, this is not a good drafting team, its not like we can assume theyll be fine without him by spending their money and drafting well to accommodate his absence.

Also, lets not forget that you have a qb waiting in the wings. Why get rid of what is at the moment his most consistent playmaker on offense? I think you can spend big money on 2 WRs in today's league if you want to, if you allot your money wisely in other places.

You have a Tampa 2 defense, that saves a lot of money which allows you to spend more offensively. Now if they can just draft talent at oline, and save money by getting quality mid round RBs used in an RBC tandem, thats good enough.

The money has to be spent wisely to pull it off, and Detroit has the schemes in place to do it, they just have to be better at management to pull it off. Can Millen of all ppl be the one to do this? I don't know, i doubt it honestly. But it can be done.
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Yeah, look how well they got that type of deal last year when Calvin Johnson fell to their pick.
exactly. i bet gruden was letting f-bombs fly in the buccaneers war room that day....

if i were the lions i would have jumped down just for a 3rd rounder even. the browns werent going to take gaines adams and getting any player at 4 would have been cheaper than any player at 2....
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not gonna happen....get those pickles in your pockets under control NFC east fans, lol

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But the talk persists. In the latest episode, Eagles radio analyst Mike Quick says there will be news on Williams before the week is out. GCobb.com — a Web site run by former Lions, Eagles and Cowboys linebacker Garry Cobb, now a Philadelphia media personality — reports “that means the Cowboys, Redskins or the Eagles will probably wind up with the receiver.”

At the Lions’ pre-draft news conference today, Millen was asked if there was any way the Lions would trade Williams. He just laughed.

Seated next to Millen, Marinelli said: “Don’t even ask me.” Asked if that meant no, Millen continued to laugh and said: “That thing is brutal.”
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id love me some ocho but id have no problems with roy either. ultimately i dont care if its ocho, roy, or anquan. as long as its one of them. and im getting more and more confident that one of the three will be a skin by week 1.
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id love me some ocho but id have no problems with roy either. ultimately i dont care if its ocho, roy, or anquan. as long as its one of them. and im getting more and more confident that one of the three will be a skin by week 1.
based on the skins past, id say your most likely to have CJ out of that crew....id personally prefer anquan but hes beastly, and that could just be me, lol
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That would just be weird if Dallas had 2 Roy Williams'.
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I hope the Eagles get him, Lito is a non need and would be a waste just having him at nickel.

That is pretty funny that Millen never managed to trade Charles Rogers, or Mike Williams (even though they all ended up cut) but he tries to trade his one good draft pick.
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I hope the Eagles get him, Lito is a non need and would be a waste just having him at nickel.

That is pretty funny that Millen never managed to trade Charles Rogers, or Mike Williams (even though they all ended up cut) but he tries to trade his one good draft pick.
Except Lito would be the #2, not the nickel.
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The way to look at it, I think, is like this. The Lions could have:
  • Roy Williams signed long-term + DE Gaines Adams + whatever else Tampa Bay was willing to offer last year; or
  • Calvin Johnson, the best WR prospect ever and years younger than Roy Williams, signed long-term + whatever they get this year (or next) for Roy
To be honest, I like the second option better, especially if they can land DE Derrick Harvey at #15 and RB Jonathan Stewart with another first round pick. It's not like Adams was a once-in-a-decade prospect or anything, he was a good prospect though.
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Trading Roy is just not a good idea. I hope the old dad can push away these suitors for one more week. We will have the money to resign Roy next offseason. Why? Because we have no one else good to resign. We don't have to worry about Sims until 2011, Calvin is locked up, Redding is locked up, nobody else is worth it besides maybe Bodden but he is signed for 2008 and 2009. Furrey and McDonald need to prove something without Martz IMO and they better work on their run blocking. If Furrey/McDonald prove something then maybe franchise Roy and trade him on draft day in 2009. They'll be a market. We've got the entire NFC East drooling this year. Think about Roy playing in a contract year. He's going to be working hard all year to earn that money, he better do it in a Lions uniform.

And screw any NFC team. Lets just fix the Eagles and Cowboys one weakness. Find your own receiver, I refuse to use 3 WRs in a row and not have one on the roster. If you're going to trade him send him to the AFC.
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wow i just realized that would be crazy if skins took phillips at 21
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Eh. I love Roy but I would trade him for the right price.. It'd take a lot, though.
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Washington should grab Chad, and let us take over Roy...I really dont think Boldin will be traded, he was the team captain for them this year, I'd imagine the fans would start a sh*t storm if he was traded, but I can only imagine the punishment we could inflict on DB's with Boldin and TO split out wide.
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Eh. I love Roy but I would trade him for the right price.. It'd take a lot, though.
My sentiments exactly. A 1st year and a 1st next year sounds right.
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That's asking for too much imo. But if the Lions can somehow get that, great.
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That's asking for too much imo. But if the Lions can somehow get that, great.
Oh it is definitely asking too much. But if it is there... do it damn it. But then again... we got a 3rd and a starting CB for Rogers.... so maybe Millen has turned a corner.








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Maybe an offensive coach from the back of the room will say "Trade for two high picks from Washington"
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The Lions have to get rid of him whether they like it or not.

He's not gonna re-sign with them, and he's gonna command a huge contract.
They have enough live and dead money wasted in the WR position to be handing out 20 million dollar signing bonuses.

He's gonna become a Cowboy, either this off-season or next. He's coming back home to Texas boys, you better believe it.
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The Lions have to get rid of him whether they like it or not.

He's not gonna re-sign with them, and he's gonna command a huge contract.
They have enough live and dead money wasted in the WR position to be handing out 20 million dollar signing bonuses.

He's gonna become a Cowboy, either this off-season or next. He's coming back home to Texas boys, you better believe it.
He will be franchised next off-season most likely. Probably hes dealt a la Corey Williams.
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