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I'd have to think that, at the very minimum, it would at least involve the first this year for the Vikings. I can't see the Chiefs agreeing to a deal without getting a first this year. I mean, I'd imagine a team like Jacksonville would be willing to ship their first rounder (and more).
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That is certainly a possibility, but I think the odds are in KC's favor that at least one of the top five is there at 17.

If not, then you take BPA again at 17. KC needs help just about everywhere.
Definately not in their favor, though still a possibility.

Long will go in the top 3.

The Pats and Ravens could both consider a lineman in the top 10. Let's say that either Albert or Clady go in the top 10. I think there is a good chance that one of them will.

Then there is the Broncos, Panthers, Bears, and Lions that would all strongly consider Williams, Otah, and Albert/Clady.

I'd say, at best, there is a 30-40% chance that one of those 5 drops through, and I'm not sure the Chiefs can risk that. Then again they are going to suck for the next year or two anyway, so BPA isn't a terrible idea.
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17th overall pick and Bryant McKinnie!
I knew it wouldn't be long before his name was brought up but there is no way that would happen. That leaves us without a 1st round pick and a huge hole at LT(good ones aren't easy to find) and still a need at RT too.
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I'd say, at best, there is a 30-40% chance that one of those 5 drops through, and I'm not sure the Chiefs can risk that. Then again they are going to suck for the next year or two anyway, so BPA isn't a terrible idea.
It's impossible to know for sure when we can't see every team's draft board. That said, the Chiefs are horrible and have many needs. It's not like they are a playoff contender if Chris Williams is there at 17.

Grab top talent with the two 1st round picks and then hopefully get an elite player when we have a top three pick next year.

This is the best strategy - Allen is not willing to resign here and is one strike away from sitting out for an entire season. Sell high on him now.
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I knew it wouldn't be long before his name was brought up but there is no way that would happen. That leaves us without a 1st round pick and a huge hole at LT(good ones aren't easy to find) and still a need at RT too.
Oh I know it'd never happen. Just wishful thinking.
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Like the other Vikes fans, I think that this is a "must-do" situation and would be willing to overpay a bit to get him.... he'd change our defense big time from the moment he's in purple.
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I'll trust the front office, if they think they can't sign him, trade him...It would be great to have 5 or so draft picks in the first 3 rounds, esp. in this draft

Like it's been said, we will suck next year regardless, let's just really start rebuilding
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Please please please try to work this trade, Jags.
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Please please please try to work this trade, Jags.
The problem for the Jags is positioning. Of course, I guess they could agree to fork over two firsts and sign him to a deal that the Chiefs won't match. Actually, that wouldn't be the worst idea in the world.
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I'll trust the front office, if they think they can't sign him, trade him...It would be great to have 5 or so draft picks in the first 3 rounds, esp. in this draft

Like it's been said, we will suck next year regardless, let's just really start rebuilding
I wish Clark Hunt would step up and pay Jared what he deserves.Carl Peterson is the most incompetent GM in pro sports HISTORY
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How's this scenario? We keep him, win 4 games next year, then he leaves for greener pastures, and we're screwed
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Actually ... thinking about it more ... why wouldn't these teams just sign him to an offer, an offer such that the Chiefs won't ponder matching, and give up two firsts instead. Well, maybe not for the Bucs, but for the Jags and Vikes, that actually makes a lot of sense, particularly the Jags.
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How's this scenario? We keep him, win 4 games next year, then he leaves for greener pastures, and we're screwed
because he is a guy to build the defense around plain and simple.you don't trade your best defensive player you pay him what he deserves
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Go to Tampa Jared. We all know how the Vikings like their boat parties and drinking :D . The last thing you need is another DUI and be suspended a year.
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At this point, it might be too late. He doesn't have to sign anything if he doesn't want to.

I guess might as well get as much for him as we can. Carl Peterson is stupid. It didn't have to work out this way.
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because he is a guy to build the defense around plain and simple.you don't trade your best defensive player you pay him what he deserves
Did you not understand what he just said? Allen doesn't want to sign a contract here, so he would be leaving in a year anyways. By trading him we're getting something back in return instead of holding our junk next offseason.
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Actually, can anyone answer me this. Jared isn't an exclusive franchise, at least, I don't think he is. Wouldn't it make much more sense for the Vikings or Jaguars, if they have the cap room, which I'm not certain about, but there's always a way around thing, to sign him to a deal structured so that the Chiefs can't match or threaten to match such that they could force negotiations?

I mean, yes, this would suck for the Chiefs fans, but for the Jaguars, so they give up a late first this year, and likely, a mid-late first next year. Even for the Vikings, this might even be preferable.
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Actually, can anyone answer me this. Jared isn't an exclusive franchise, at least, I don't think he is. Wouldn't it make much more sense for the Vikings or Jaguars, if they have the cap room, which I'm not certain about, but there's always a way around thing, to sign him to a deal structured so that the Chiefs can't match or threaten to match such that they could force negotiations?

I mean, yes, this would suck for the Chiefs fans, but for the Jaguars, so they give up a late first this year, and likely, a mid-late first next year. Even for the Vikings, this might even be preferable.
They could def. do it...But God, I hope not
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Did you not understand what he just said? Allen doesn't want to sign a contract here, so he would be leaving in a year anyways. By trading him we're getting something back in return instead of holding our junk next offseason.
He has said he loves KC his problem is with CP(as always is with Peterson the moron)this could have been prevented a year or two ago but Peterson sat on his butt and now look at where we are at
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Actually, can anyone answer me this. Jared isn't an exclusive franchise, at least, I don't think he is. Wouldn't it make much more sense for the Vikings or Jaguars, if they have the cap room, which I'm not certain about, but there's always a way around thing, to sign him to a deal structured so that the Chiefs can't match or threaten to match such that they could force negotiations?

I mean, yes, this would suck for the Chiefs fans, but for the Jaguars, so they give up a late first this year, and likely, a mid-late first next year. Even for the Vikings, this might even be preferable.
They could certainly do that, but apparently that is a last case scenario to give up two 1sts.

Also, the NBC affiliate in KC just reported that Minny has an 8 year, $71 mill offer on the table to Allen.
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Smith reported that according to sources, the Vikings appear to be a front-runner because they have, and are willing to deal, Kansas City what it wants most -- draft choices.

Tampa Bay only has five picks in this year's draft and, according to sources, the Bucs are reluctant to include more than a first-round pick for Allen. The Bucs have offered their first-round pick and a fifth-round pick next year, and their proposed deal could also include defensive lineman Jovan Haye, Smith reported.

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