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2(34) Devin Thomas, WR (A) Really love this pick. I had Thomas graded as a first rounder in the 15-25 range so trading down into the early second and still being able to land him was great value for the Skins. He's a great fit for the Skins in the WCO. A large frame with impressive speed and good hands with his best football ahead of him.

2(48) Fred Davis, TE (B+) I had Fred Davis as the top rated TE in the draft so I was pleased to see him picked by the Skins. We have zero depth at TE behind Cooley and that is important for our offense. Cooley loves to slide into the slot and line up at hback in the backfield too. Having another TE with Davis talent gives us a ton of options for some really great packages.

2(51) Malcolm Kelly, WR (B-) Some people may say that taking another WR wasn't necessary after Thomas but they obviously haven't looked at our depth chart. After Moss and El theres only Thrash on the dc. Kelly was another guy that a lot of people had pegged as a 1st round talent before his pro day. He may not be a burner but he doesn't have to be in our offense. He has reliable hands and is money in the redzone. The rumors about his knees are my only concern.

3(96) Chad Rhinehart, WR (B) Very versatile olineman which is what the redskins wanted. he can play either OT spot and also OG. the skins have even said they will give him some snaps at C in minicamp to see how he does because they feel he has the ability to play anywhere on the offensive line. great small school prospect with quick feet, good agility, and very nice size at 65 315 lbs.

4(125) Justin Tyron, CB (B-) Didnt know much about the guy till we picked him. He is a little undersized at 59 but hes quite strong and physical nonetheless. Put up 21 reps on the bench and said to be a good form tackler. Transferred into arizona state his junior year and immediately started 26 straight games over his two years there as the #1 cb. Was an all american in juco before transferring. His senior year he only allowed the opposition to complete just 31.13 percent of the passes thrown into his direction. Pretty good speed with a 4.42 and a nice vertical for a shorter guy at 33 inches. From what ive seen his quickness and desire give him the ability to make up in recovery for taking a lot of risks.

6(168) Durant Brooks, P (A-) Frost is so terribly inconsistent and unreliable. Over the past 3 years frost in the nfl has averaged just under 41 yards per kick. brooks averages 45.3 and has much better consistency and brooks accuracy and placement is money. The kid had a long of 77 this year!!

6(180) Kareem Moore, SS (B) A pure SS and ive seen him compared to Ryan Clark who is a guy most skins fans were upset to lose in FA two years back. hes a little short and doesnt have good timed speed but everything ive seen says hes got great awareness, good instincts, and great in the box. considering we arent going to resign peirson this gives good depth and a guy that can compete with reed at SS.

6(186) Colt Brennan, QB (B+) I personally am really excited about this pick. I think that Colt has the ability to be a great long term backup in the right situation and I think the Skins are just the spot. He gets to come in and be coached by Jim Zorn. Campbell is obviously the starter and Collins has proved a serviceable backup but hes 36 and won't be around more than another year or two at most. The WCO is probably the best fit for Colt and he'll have a good amount of time to learn before being in a situation that he'd have to step in and contribute.

7(242) Rob Jackson, DE (C+) Mostly a pass rush specialist from what I've seen. Is supposedly very talented at getting at the QB but doesn't have much to offer in run support.

7(249) Chris Horton, S (B-) More depth at Safety. Behind Landry and Reed the Skins really don't have much depth at either safety spot so Horton has a good shot of stepping into that roll as a backup. He started as a FS and then moved to SS so his versatility will help. Could be a good special teamer.


Overall = B+
Really good skins write up, I agree with this one more than the one ghetosermon wrote. The only difference I have is that i value Kelly as an A and Brennan as a C. Kelly was great value and a definite first round talent, yea we didnt get to adress the line but i really like the guys we drafted late and got some key ufa's. Brennan I think was a luxury pick and one that might hinder Campbell's development a little if Zorn focuses too much on Brennan as a project.

Overall B+ as well.

O yea u have Rhinehart as a WR rather than OG.
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You know, Washington is probably the ideal situation for Brennan to go to, assuming Zorn gets a real chance to stay there long-term. Holmgren is done in Seattle after this year, the Eagles already drafted Kolb last year, and who knows how long Martz will stay in San Fran. But being in Washington, Brennan gets to develop under the thumb of Zorn, with Jason Campbell as the unquestioned starter and vet Todd Collins also being able to help the young guy.
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1) Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware = B
- Potential in him, hopefully we don't throw him into the water and let him learn a little first.

2) Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers = B-
- Could be a good combo with Willis. He'll take a load off, so Willis will have time to rest.

3) Tavares Gooden, LB, Miami = A
- I personally love the pick. I'm convinced that Gooden is the next great U linebacker and learning under Ray will only help.

3b) Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame = B
- Good solid pick. Will be a great back-up for Dawan and Ed. He's an upgrade over the horrendous Jamaine Winborne without a doubt.

3c) Oniel Cousins, OT, UTEP = B-
- Add quality depths to the line. Might be able to challenge for the starting spot, but I doubt he wins.

4) Marcus Smith, WR, New Mexico = B
- Replaces DeVard Darling. He's not afraid of going down the middle and gives us some more depth.

4b) David Hale, OT, Weber St = C+
- Another more depth. But I think that someone like Carl Nicks would have been a better choice. But I'm not complaining.

4c) Fabian Washington, CB, Oakland Raiders = A
- Great pick. People thought he would warrant a 2nd or 3rd. He'll step in right away at the nickel spot and might even challenge Samari for the starting spot.

6) Haruki Nakamura, S, Cinncinati = C+
- Adds another good back-up that can replace the horrible Jamine Winborne.

7) Justin Harper, WR, V-Tech = C+
- Adds a big red-zone target. Has some potential that can be brought out.

7b) Allen Patrick, RB, Oklahoma = D
- Adds more depth. He's a really aggressive type of runner and has potential on special teams. Not really a need though, would have preferred Erin Henderson there.

Overall = B / B+
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Bears Draft;

1st Round - Chris Williams LT Vanderbilt: Love, love, love this pick. We got the LT we needed and Williams will start from Day 1. The knock is that he's a little soft but I think added muscle will help him with that. He'll man the left side of our line for the next decade or so (assuming he stays healthy and he stays here). We went with need over BPA but I'm ok with that. The OL depth in this draft was not near as deep as the RB's. Great pick ------ A

2nd Round - Matt Forte RB Tulane: Some consider it a bit of a reach but you can't ignore Forte's production as a senior. Over 2000 yards and was the MVP of the Senior Bowl. Tough runner with good vision, good speed, and has very good cutting ability. Angelo has liked this guy from day one and a lot of people predicted Forte to go here. Like the pick, and it basically tells Benson to either step up or get the **** out ----- B+

3rd Round - Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt: A guy we Bear fans targeted in our team discussion after Saturday. Basically it was him, Doucet, or Manningham with our first pick and we got EB. I really like this pick. He's not going to blow you away with speed or playmaking ability but he was the SEC's All-Time Leading WR, and that's saying something (Calvin Johnson was in the SEC). Has great hands, goes over the middle, good speed, can run after the catch, and blocks. Kiper compared him to a Hines Ward type WR, and I'll take that any day of the week ------- A+

3rd Round - Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas: First round talent, dropped due to injury and off the field issues. Very good against the run and had high production in the SEC for 4 seasons. He's healthy now and our staff believes his problems are behind him. We needed a run stopping DT and he's that, really like the pick. It's not offense but it's definitely value and BPA for us ---- B+

4th Round - Craig Steltz S LSU: Doesn't have the "physical measurables" a lot of teams look for but he's a football player. Great instincts, a playmaker in the backfield, very good against the run, and has good coverage skills. We have some issues at the Safety position and I like this kid a lot. Just has that football player build and gets the job done ----- B+

5th Round - Zack Bowman CB Nebraska: Heard a couple people say when this kid is healthy he was one of the best CB's in the country. Has great ball skills, physical CB, and is good against the run. Very good athlete. He's a high risk/reward type player but I believe he's going to do some things at least on ST as a gunner with his wheels. Has some good upside to work with as well, and with our track record of drafting and developing CB's (Tillman, Vasher, and McBride), I really think he could contribute down the road ----- B

5th Round - Kellen Davis TE/DE MSU: Very good athlete for his size and has some serious tools to work with. People question his character (assault charges) and his work ethic but there's no denying he's got some ability. With Clark likely moving on pretty soon, Davis and Olsen could be a pretty damn good duo at TE and provide some matchup problems. Scott says he doesn't have great timed speed, a 4.6 40 for a man 6'6" 252 is pretty damn good to me. Put up good numbers as a Senior as well. And he also has ability as a DE if TE doesn't work out. I personally like the pick, good athlete with upside - B+

7th Round - Ervin Baldwin: I'll be honest, I don't know much about him but '51 put up a scouting report that said he's a solid player with no real weaknesses. Can rush the passer and can stop the run. Doesn't do anything great but just a solid all around ball player. For a 7th Round pick I'll take it ---- B

7th Round - Chester Adams OG Georgia: Another player with a good frame, good athleticism, and has upside. Scott's scouting report said he's got the potential to be a starter down the line with his tools. Again, for a 7th Rounder I'll take it all day long. We address a need area and while he's not an immediate contributor, down the line he could develop into something very good ---- B+

7th Round - Joey LaRocque LB Oregon State: Maybe another Bear fan can fill me in on this guy because I can't find much about him. He looks a bit undersized but heard he has some good speed and coverage skills. I'll give this one an N/A for now because I don't know much.

7th Round - Kirk Barton OT Ohio State - Really like this pick. All Big 10 Selection opposite Jake Long at OT. If I'm reading it right he was a 4 year starter at RT, holy ****. Very good run blocker and isn't too shabby in pass blocking either. I guess injuries plagued this guy a bit but he's a solid prospect. Again, as a 7th Rounder I really like taking a flyer on this guy. Maybe a diamond in the rough, people question his mobility but I think he has the ability to maybe slide into a guard slot if anything----- B+

7th Round - Marcus Monk WR Arkansas: Love, love, love this pick. Game speed is questioned but he ran a 4.42 40. Great size and hands, good body control which allows him to be a threat in the red zone. Battled injuries his senior year which had to affect his stock a little. He's not a burner or a down the field threat but he's a guy that can go over corners, go over the middle, and provide matchup problems. Hell, he's worth a flyer at least in the 7th Round. My favorte of the 7th Rounders - A

Overall I'd give the draft a B+. Nothing is going to wow you but it's a very, very solid draft. We addressed need areas at LT, RB, WR, S, and DL. We took players with high floors but we also took flyers on guys with good athleticism and high upside. If you notice though, the guys we took all produced at the college level. One of JA's better drafts on paper IMO. And frankly I don't care we didn't get a QB, but that's my opinion.
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3rd Round - Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt: A guy we Bear fans targeted in our team discussion after Saturday. Basically it was him, Doucet, or Manningham with our first pick and we got EB. I really like this pick. He's not going to blow you away with speed or playmaking ability but he was the SEC's All-Time Leading WR, and that's saying something (Calvin Johnson was in the SEC). Has great hands, goes over the middle, good speed, can run after the catch, and blocks. Kiper compared him to a Hines Ward type WR, and I'll take that any day of the week ------- A+
CJ was actually in the ACC and damn the bears had A LOT of 7th round picks
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Ignoring quarterback, imo, severely drops the Bears' grade. That and a questionable choice of a tight end -- where we already have a solid 1-2 punch in Olsen and Clark -- I would say drops the Bears to a B-/C+ range.
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****, yea I knew that. ACC, SEC. Same thing. ;)

What other good College WR's were there in the SEC? Hmmm...Josh Reed, Dwayne Bowe, Ike Hilliard, Jabar Gaffney, Reche Callwell, Hines Ward (although I don't know if he was actually a WR), Sterling Sharpe, Wendell Davis, Ozzie Newsome, Don Hutson...That's pretty good company, and he was only a Junior.

But yea, my bad on the Calvin Johnson thing lol. It's late.
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Ignoring quarterback, imo, severely drops the Bears' grade. That and a questionable choice of a tight end -- where we already have a solid 1-2 punch in Olsen and Clark -- I would say drops the Bears to a B-/C+ range.
Clark is probably gone after his contract is up this year, therefore we have no depth behind Olsen. Davis may have been a questionable pick need wise, but value wise it was fine.

And this whole QB thing is blown way out of proportion. Would I have liked to get one? Sure. Did we HAVE to get one? Nope. We have Orton and Grossman right now, and they're going to get one final shot to prove themselves. I liked some of the QB's in this draft but I wasn't that wowed by them. I still believe Ryan is overrated but that's me. And it's obvious that our staff wasn't too high on the QB's either.
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Ignoring quarterback, imo, severely drops the Bears' grade. That and a questionable choice of a tight end -- where we already have a solid 1-2 punch in Olsen and Clark -- I would say drops the Bears to a B-/C+ range.
After the big 4 QBs there was nothing even remotely good. What if Greg Olsen or Dez Clark get hurt? We would be left with 1 TE. The only pick i'm not sold on was the Bowman pick.
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It says his contract is up in 2008 on the website....Look at the transactions:

"Signed through 2008"

http://www.chicagobears.com/team/player16.html

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1. Duane Brown, LT - #26 Overall
He was a reach to most in terms of value. To some a big reach. That said, he was the top guy left at a position of need (no idea when Spencer will be back and if he will still be a Left Tackle, and Ephraim Salaam isn't the answer, even though hes been serviceable). He was apparently hand picked prior to the draft by Alex Gibbs, and was said to be the guy we'd take if Chris Williams was gone. We traded back and picked up an extra 3rd and 6th, and still got the guy that Gibbs wanted. Brown is perfect for Gibbs and this system. I didn't like the pick when it was initially made, but I've come to trust what Kubiak and Smith do, and I'll trust them on this one as well. Grade wise, pluses for being a great fit at a position of need and picking up an extra 3rd and 6th, minus for being a reach. B-

2. Antwaun Molden, CB - #79 Overall
With Dunta out until around midseason, Cornerback was a must for us in our first few picks this year. Fred Bennett was very very good for us last year, but behind him we have relatively nothing. Dominique Rogers Cromartie was taken just ahead of us by Arizona, and Dallas jumped up and took Jenkins right before us in round one (though I doubt we'd have taken them anyway, if reports are true), and there was a small run on CB's before our pick in round 3, so it seemed to just be bad luck. That said, I really like Molden, even if I don't know a ton about the guy. Mayock said hes basically DRC without the push and notoriety from the senior bowl appearance, I'm going to go along with that, cause it sounds good. Ohhh yeah. Grade wise, pluses for being very talented at a position of need. Minuses for being raw, even though I've heard from reliable sources (.. okay, my sources are a post from toonster, but thats as reliable as anything, right?) .. anyway, according to him, Molden may be a lot more close to 'ready' than people think. B-

3. Steve Slaton, RB - #89 Overall
Our running back situation is far from pretty. When Ahman was healthy last year, he was good. That said, he was healthy for about 13 minutes of the season. Ron Dayne isn't completely awful, but in no way is he good. Walker and Taylor have had very little playing time to know how they'll be, but neither looks to be any type of long term fixture as a starter. Slaton is another good fit at a position of need. Hey look, a theme. Players being taken that play at positions of need. Will add some much (much) needed speed to the running back position, and the overall offense. Grade wise, Pluses for being a good scheme fit at a position of need. Minuses for me not liking the guy. Jerk. B-

4. Xavier Adibi, LB - #118 Overall
Ya know, I love this pick. It's not necessarily because I think he'll be great, it's just that I absolutely loved watching him play at Virginia Tech, and am thrilled to be able to see him every week in the NFL. That aside, he really does have a good shot at coming in and winning the Weakside spot sometime this year. He's a playmaker to go beside the unbelievable solidness, consistency, and football smarts of DeMeco Ryans. And he looks like a complete badass in uniform. Always a plus. Finally, someone who at least has a chance, even if its a small one, at being able to cover Dallas Clark while in the nickel. Grade Wise, pluses for being a playmaker at a position of need, having an awesome name, looking like a complete badass in unfiorm, and being fun to watch. Minuses for nothing, becuase Adibi is a god. And yes, I realize some people will completely and utterly disagree with me on this. A

5. Frank Okam, DT - #151 Overall
I'm pretty sure everyone thinks this, so its not some huge revelation, but he could either be very good, or a complete flop. But even as a flop, theres no chance in hell he can be as unbelievably stupid on the field as Travis Johnson is. If he can get motivated, it'll be a good pick for us. He has the talent around him to be effective, playing next to Mario Williams and Amobi Okoye. Grade wise, pluses for being a Longhorn (Hook em!), being absolutely massive, and being smart as hell. Minuses for being absolutely massive, and for not always giving effort. You know. Same old **** from him. Ill give him a middle of the road grade because this pick can go either way, and can do so in an extreme fashion both ways. He could be very very good, he could end up sucking. Who knows. C

6. Dominique Barber, S - #173 Overall
Uh. Well. Here's where my lack of draft knowledge, or lack of really caring enough to read up on anyone hurts. I don't really know a thing about this guy. He's a safety though. We need safeties. Grade wise, plus for being at a position of need, minus for uh, me not knowing who he is. Besides, brothers of good players rarely work out. C-

7. Alex Brink, QB - #223 Overall
Yea. Again, no idea. I told get to see many (or rather any. I might as well not lie) Washington State games. So I can't say I really know anything about this either. He's a 7th rounder though, so what do I care. Pluses for me not caring enough about him to look for negatives, minuses for me not knowing who he is. C-




Anyway. Overall, we filled a lot of needs with some guys who have some good upside. None were sexy picks, and our #1 was a reach, so it'll be looked at negatively, but as a fan, I'm perfectly fine with this class.
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1-Sedrick Ellis, DT, Southern Cal- I love this pick. Defensive tackle is an area of huge need for the Saints, and Ellis is the stud DT we've been craving for a while. What makes this better for me is that the Saints moved up for only a third round pick, which is nothing compared to what they offered the Cheifs to move up for Dorsey. Ellis is going to be an impact player immediately for the Saints and it fills a hole. A+

2-Tracy Porter- CB, Indiana- I don't know much about him, but from what I've heard and seen he should help out a really shallow secondary. Great athlete with what are considered by some scouts to be the best pure cover skills in the draft. Solid pick. Grade: B+

3- Traded to New England.

4- Traded for Vilma. Another move I adore. We had quite possibly the worst group of starting linebackers in the NFL last year and Vilma immediately improves the situation. If he stays healthy we finally have a real threat other than Fujita at linebacker. Grade: A

5- DeMario Pressley- DT, NC State- Another pick I really like. As I said earlier, DT is a huge need area for the Saints. Brian Young and Hollis Thomas are adequate, but after them there is little depth. Pressley gives the Saints another explosive athlete to throw into the mix. He has the frame and skill set to be a solid pass rusher, but he needs to learn to play with better leverage and keep his motor running a little more consistently. Could end up being a solid player. Grade: B+

5- Carl Nicks- OT/OG, Nebraska I think to get Nicks in the 5th is an absolute steal. Hes versatile enough to play tackle or move inside to guard. Very athletic for such a big man, and he threw up 30 reps at the combine. I think this is the heir apparent to John Stinchcomb. Very good pick. Grade: A

6- Taylor Mehlhaff- Kicker, Wisconsin- Eh..I'm not sure how I feel about this one. Hes definitely got a big leg but his mechanics are kind of funky sometimes. I guess it does address a need, though, since Martin Gramatica can't be seen as the answer. Grade: C+

7- Adrian Arrington- WR, Michigan- This is another guy I kind of like. I was actually a little shocked to see him still around in the 7th. Hes big with a little bit of a burst, so I think he could end up being a player. Plus, the last time we took a receiver in the 7th round it worked out. =P Grade: B

Overall: A-. I really like this draft. We got the guy we wanted in the first and filled the rest of the class with solid players. I don't think we reached on anyone (unlike last year) and we got some guys with great upside like Pressley and Nicks.
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#8- Derrick Harvey, DE
Harvey by many accounts would not have gotten past the Bengals at #9...so when the Jaguars traded up 18 spots to get him...needless to say I was gasping for air...Harvey brings a nasty pass rush mentality to the Dline and he's also a very quick everydown's DE. I'm predicting he's starting on day 1.
GRADE: A

#52- Quentin Groves, DE/OLB
Groves is a tweener but with added weight can become an every down's DE. He's quick and will be used right away on third down situations. Regarded by many to be a late first round pick he slipped into the second round due to "Character" concerns and a heart murmur. All is well though and the Jaguars got another steal.
GRADE: A-

#155- Thomas Williams, MLB
Williams was USC's 4th best linebacker...started some games for them in his career there, but played most special teams and the backup role. But JDR felt that Williams was good enough at USC to start for 80% of the rest of the nation. Williams will be a STer if he makes the team and would likely backup Mike Pete or Daryl Smith.
GRADE: C-

#159- Trae Williams, CB
Williams was awesome value in the 5th round. Mike Jenkin's field partner in the secondary many believe Williams out played Jenkins for the most part, it's just that Williams doesn't have the athleticism or quickness to be an everydown's CB in the NFL. He's second in USF history for interceptions and holds the record for INT's returned for TD's with 4 (3 in 2007). He is almost certain to play nickel or dime for us.
GRADE: B-

#213- Chauncey Washington, RB
Washington played in 31 games at USC and started 15 of them. He gained 1800 yards and 19 touchdowns in his career at USC. Washington is put in a win win situation seeing how the Jaguars need a third down back or 3rd back overall. He will be given every opportunity to keep a roster spot. He really was BAT (Best Available Trojan). Washington's best game came against Cal last season in which he ran for 220 yards.
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Rams first round: A+

The rest of the rounds I could care less, I turned the draft after we took Donnie Avery cuz I was pissed off. I watched baseball instead.
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It says his contract is up in 2008 on the website....Look at the transactions:

"Signed through 2008"

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Matt Ryan: A-
This pick can really come back and bite us in the draft. We took him over what many teams had as the number one overall player in Glenn Dorsey. I guess Dorsey's injury concerns didnt check out, which played a factor is us taking Matt Ryan over him. What I like about this pick is a face to the franchise. He is a high character guy who brings immediate leadership to a team that is in rambles. With an adequate skillset and great intangibles, I think he should be a solid addition to the Falcons.

Sam Baker: B+
The more I think about this pick, the more I like it. It was clear that we had to protect the blindside of our $60 million investment. Trading up to get one of the other OT's would have cost too much (possibly a future 1st) so we had to settle for Sam Baker. I guess trading up that high was needed, because of the run of OTs that were being taken. With 7 or 8 OT being taken in the first round and none in the 2nd, it was clear that there was a large drop off in talent after Baker and Brown. People think if we stayed at 34, we could have gotten Sam Baker, but that just isnt true. The Texans would have jumped all over Sam Baker and Duane Brown has alot of flaws. I like the trade up because of his potential at LT with his quick feet and lots of experience. He may not be the most physical LT in the league, but he is going to do a good job protecting Matt Ryan in passing situations.

Curtis Lofton: A-
Great instinctual LB at the top of the 2nd (DeMeco Ryans anyone? :)). He should come in and start day 1 and rack up the tackles while playing next to Michael Boley. He should be in contention for DRotY with Gholston and Mayo and Connor and Long (I may be forgetting some other LBs). Once again, we get a high with a great character and leadership abilities.

Chevis Jackson: B-
Not the biggest fan of this pick to be honest, but he fits our scheme. We will most likely be playing alot of zone and he is a guy who flat out knows how to play football. Very instinctive and comes from a great program. He should be able to contribute his rookie year I think with his experience.

Harry Douglas: B-
I think we reached for this pick. He would have been available a round or two later I think. He is the perfect slot receiver and it looks obviously like we are going to give Matt Ryan some weapons. I would have rather preferred a TE for a young QB though.

Thomas DeCoud: C
I really dont like this pick. I think the only thing he has going for himself is his leadership ability. I dont think he is athletic enough to play safety in the pros. He has great awareness and was a leader at Cal, but I really dont think his athletic ability will translate well in the NFL. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

Robert James: D
Wtf a WLB? I really dont like this pick only because I think we could have gotten guys we need. We already have a developmental guy in Nicholas to take over WLB when Keith Brooking is cut or retires. Hopefully he turns out to be a stud. Falcons 5th round OLBs hopefully start to set trends

Kroy Biermann: C
I like this OLB pick more than the previous one, but once again...OLB? Really? I really dont think so much depth is necessary at the OLB, especially when we have no depth at DT.

Thomas Brown: B-
Not a terrible pick. Norwood cant handle the load, and we dont know what Turner can do as a starter. I like Thomas Brown's skillset and I bet he reminds alot of people of Warrick Dunn.

Wilrey Fontenot: A-
A day 2 pick that I actually like. He knows how to play ball and is a good athlete but dropped because of his lack of physicality. He breaks well on balls, and that is good to hear. Hopefully he will have time to make some plays. I like this kid alot.

Keith Zinger: B
Finally we address TE, even though Kellen Davis fell so far. I think a good TE is key in developing a young QB...actually...I doubt this guy makes the team.

Overall: B+
I think we did a good job drafting as a whole. If you look at everyone, you can see that each of them dont have character concerns and were leader and are natural football players. They might not put up the best times at the combine, but are instinctual and have great awareness for the game of football. I like that alot for a franchise who is rebuilding. I expect us to lose a ton of games again and we will most likely be in contention for the first overall pick next year, but with this core of leaders and last years possible studs, we should begin to compete playoffs in a few years.
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Round 1- Kentwan Balmer, 3-4 DE

A bit of a confusing pick. We just re-signed Isaac Sopoaga and signed Justin Smith to be our 3-4 DE's. But Balmer as DE probably means Sopoaga moves back to NT. I like us addressing the DL, it should make the defense better, but i'm a bit worried about Balmer. One year of production in college is a bit of a red-flag...hopefully he doesn't bust.

Round 2- Chilo Rachal, OG

He could play RT in the NFL, but i believe he will play LG for us. I would have preferred an OT, but after 8 tackles were taken in the top 26, the quality of OT's dropped off big-time. And after our OL gave up a league-high 55 sacks, we had to address it. Hopefully he will be a mauling OG who can pass protect well for us. I thought we would pick him in the 3rd round honestly, but i dont think the 49ers could risk losing out on him.

Round 3- Reggie Smith, CB/FS

He is supposedly being viewed as a CB to eventually replace Walt Harris...but he also could play FS as well. I think he will be a good player and this is actually my favorite pick...i love his versatility. I had no idea he would be available at 75, but im glad he dropped.

Round 4- Cody Wallace, Center

More depth for the OL. Our center Eric Heitmann was terrible for much of last year, and is entering a contract year to boot. Adding him and Rachal have boosted our interior depth. Our interior OL has been terrible in pass protection for the past 2 years (Our 3 starting Interior Lineman were all awful at pass protecting, and our run blocking was terrible at the start of the season as well).

Round 6- Josh Morgan, WR

Meh, a decent pick. I don't think he will make the roster..but who knows. Maybe Martz will make something of him.

Round 7- Larry Grant, ILB

He is being viewed as the TED ILB and will compete for that spot with Dontarrious Thomas. If he makes the roster, he likely won't do much more than Special Teams, at least the first year anyway. I might have preferred taking a gamble on other players such as Lionel Dotson or Adarius Bowman, but whatever, its just a 7th.

Overall: Id grade it a B. We addressed the trenches in a big way. We could have drafted guys like Jackson and Groves but they would struggle because we dont have the guys up front. But we made it a huge priority to draft the lines...and our guys will benefit. We've added talent and playmakers...but they all struggle. Its no coincedence that our OL and DL were all average at best.

BTW: What do non 49er fans think of this draft? Our draft gets overlooked because outside of Reggie Smith, we really didnt draft any playmakers whatsoever. But id be interested in hearing what people think of our draft.
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Ryan Clady OT - predictable but solid pick. fills a glaring need and should be our franchise left tackle who's in charge of protecting cutler's blind side. judging from his wonderlic and interview he seems to be stupid which is a concern. A-

Eddie Royal WR - different from the clady pick in that it was a surprise and he seems to be an intelligent, high character guy. this is important given our recent off the field issues. royal will most likely be our starting returner come opening day. interesting that we passed on jackson, kelly, and sweed for him. B-

Kory Lichtensteiger C - another pick that was used to bolster the offensive line with. he could be used as either a guard or a center. will end up replacing nalen after he retires unless shanny decides to switch hamilton. B

Jack Williams CB - a slightly less talented version of darrent williams in that he's a small guy with good speed and toughness. i have trouble believing that he'll end up being any better than paymah and foxworth. C

Ryan Torain RB - an intriguing pick who probably would of received a lot more recognition if it hadn't been for a foot injury midway through his senior year. has good size but quickness and speed might restrict him to a backup role. shanny seems to really like him which could be good or bad. B+

Carlon Powell DT - definitely a surprise that we waited to address the defensive tackle position till the fourth round, even considering the acquisition of roberston. seems to be an all around solid player who at the very least should be a good rotational player. B+

Spencer Larsen ILB - of all the picks this one makes the least sense. productive in college but doesn't have the speed that is required for our linebackers. quite a few linemen are faster than him. shanny mentioned he might be used as a fullback. D+

Josh Barrett - very athletic player who was a great value pick. B

Peyton Hillis FB - another good value pick but this grade gets knocked down if we don't sign an undrafted kicker/punter. B-

overall i'll give it a B-
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He was signed til 2010 this offseason.
Well then **** the Bears Website, they still have him signed through 2008. I still like Davis though even if it wasn't a need.
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Aqib Talib: Initially, I was extremely cautious about this pick. However after contemplating it further, I don't think it is as bad as some think. Talib is fast, big, and more physical than most give him credit for. Not to mention he is a play maker with good ball skills who has the potential to make regular interceptions. He'll be worked into the rotation early and act as insurance for Barber, Wilson and Buchanon whose futures in Tampa are all cloudy.

Dexter Jackson: Will be brought along slowly with the hopes of becoming something like Joey Galloway. He is fast, agile and will upgrade our return game. I don't think he sees a ton of playing time as rookie, other than the odd trick play or slot play, but once Galloway hangs up the boots he will have a huge opportunity.

Jeremy Zuttah: I had it in my last mock draft, albeit not in the 3rd round. The ultimate back-up offensive lineman who can sub in anywhere on the offensive line. A luxury to have on game day.

Dre Moore: Amazing pick. Moore has plenty of question marks, but he has the tangibles to become a stud in Tampa. Will probably back up Hovan early but will be worked into the rotation and hopefully can start in 09.

Josh Johnson: I'm not really an advocate of drafting a QB this year, but Josh Johnson in the 5th round is amazing. Like Mayock said, if you don't know who your QB of the future is, and there is a prospect you really love in the mid-late rounds, you have to take him.

Geno Hayes: Not crazy about the pick, but he is young and has potential. Will probably have to battle Antoine Cash, Matt McCoy, Adam Hayward and Ryan Nece just to make the roster.

Cory Boyd: Boyd is a fantastic pick in the 7th round. He is a great fit in our defense and could be the Pittman of the future thanks to his receiving skills. Better than Kenneth Darby from last year. I doubt him making the roster, but with Caddy's status still cloudy, it makes a lot of sense.

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