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Old 05-14-2008, 06:40 PM    (permalink
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Jason Peters runs a 4.8

I loved watching him on special teams when he was a rookie and a sophmore.. He would be one of the first players down the field and knock 3 players on their butts.
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Can we consider RTs to be LTs in this context if the quarterback is left handed?
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Joe Thomas allowed 4.5 sacks. But that is still very impressive for a rook! :)
Where?

And if you are counting the first game of the year where Frye ran himself into what... 7 sacks?

I'm pretty sure Thomas got credited with 0 sacks allowed.

EDIT: Sorry didnt read some of the other posts, I still don't think Thomas gave up sacks besides in that first Pitt game where Frye was running around like a chicken with his head cut off.
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Where?

And if you are counting the first game of the year where Frye ran himself into what... 7 sacks?

I'm pretty sure Thomas got credited with 0 sacks allowed.
At least 3.5, but who's counting?
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Can we consider RTs to be LTs in this context if the quarterback is left handed?
Good question.. I think it should
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Joe Thomas allowed 4.5 sacks. But that is still very impressive for a rook! :)
Tony Ugoh allowed just 1.5 sacks, of course he only played in 11 games due to injury, but that is still rediculous.
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Jason Peters runs a 4.8

I loved watching him on special teams when he was a rookie and a sophmore.. He would be one of the first players down the field and knock 3 players on their butts.
i remember his rookie year, he ran through the Cinci's punt team, and blocked the punt, and recovered it in the endzone

lets also not forget his leaping touchdown catch against the Texans
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Tony Ugoh allowed just 1.5 sacks, of course he only played in 11 games due to injury, but that is still rediculous.
He is blocking for Manning how is prolly one of the most prolific passers ever...
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Its a win now league. I think Pace/Jones are the best current players by far in the NFL. GMs/coaches except for Millen(unfortuanately), only have 2-3 years to do some winning or they are on the hot seat. I'll start with Jones now and then draft a replacement in depending on when he feels like calling it quits who will be groomed by the best LT in the game.

My Right Tackle would be a young guy from the same list.
I think Pace is close to done but I agree with your point.

Win now espically with OLs. No telling how long a lot of the guys can hold up.
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Old 05-15-2008, 12:03 PM    (permalink
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Chris Samuels LT Redskins has made the pro bowl 6 times in his 8 years in the league and hes in none of ur guys top 10....wow
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Chris Samuels LT Redskins has made the pro bowl 6 times in his 8 years in the league and hes in none of ur guys top 10....wow
Probably because everyone is so busy talking about the Redskins latest free agent acquisition they always forget about the guys that have really kept that team competitive. For the longest time Samuels and Jansen were the best things about the Redskins.
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This man I think will have a break out year.

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Joe Staley for sure I think he will crack the top 10 next year
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Chris Samuels LT Redskins has made the pro bowl 6 times in his 8 years in the league and hes in none of ur guys top 10....wow

i have to agree , i really like samuels.
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He is blocking for Manning how is prolly one of the most prolific passers ever...
I agree with you that Manning makes Ugoh better because of Manning's great pocket awareness. But Ugoh is a very athletic and talented LT and I would probably rate him top 5 among young LTs I would build a team around.
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I would go with David Diehl (Giants)

Fair enough he isn't as athletic or flashy as the big name LTs, but he does a good, consistent job and rises to whatever challenges face him.

I think it is notable that nothing much was made of the Giants Left ackle last year depsite it being basically a good left guard up against the NFLs top speed rushers in a new position.

Another consideration, even with his new contract Diehl is paid well under half the money of what most of the other guys are on.
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I would go with David Diehl (Giants)

Fair enough he isn't as athletic or flashy as the big name LTs, but he does a good, consistent job and rises to whatever challenges face him.

I think it is notable that nothing much was made of the Giants Left ackle last year depsite it being basically a good left guard up against the NFLs top speed rushers in a new position.

Another consideration, even with his new contract Diehl is paid well under half the money of what most of the other guys are on.
I love diehl, my favorite olineman for us, but he's so much better at LG that he shouldn't be in the discussion for LTs. He's a good LT but he's only exceptional at LG. If a team had any of the guys mentioned in this thread diehl would be a guard instantly.
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Ferguson gives up sacks every other day. He's got tools but he's yet to become a solid player imo.
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Ferguson gives up sacks every other day. He's got tools but he's yet to become a solid player imo.
Haven't watched much D'Brick? Last year he was inconsistent but definitely getting better.

He had a nice little run last year...and that was with garbage next to him. I expect him to be a very good LT this year.
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Probably because everyone is so busy talking about the Redskins latest free agent acquisition they always forget about the guys that have really kept that team competitive. For the longest time Samuels and Jansen were the best things about the Redskins.
Who, Jerome Mathis or Todd Collins?
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Haven't watched much D'Brick? Last year he was inconsistent but definitely getting better.

He had a nice little run last year...and that was with garbage next to him. I expect him to be a very good LT this year.
He gave up more sacks last year than during his rookie year.
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He gave up more sacks last year than during his rookie year.
Exactly.

I'll give him a couple of passes on the fact that the running game, QB situation and supporting cast wasn't ideal.

However, one could question if those aspects "supposedly" his problem weren't what caused Ferguson to have a bad year and that his inconsistent play at such a pivotal position caused a lot of the other issues on offense.

Just playing devils advocate here. I like his potential like a mentioned, he's still yet to show me that he can be considered a franchise LT though.
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