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Old 05-15-2008, 10:26 PM    (permalink
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Who do people think are going to be the best defenses of the 08-09 season? I've got the vikings, giants, chargers, ravens and iggles will have the 5 best d's this season.

Vikes great DTs finally have a force on the outside, good LBs and an improved secondary.

Giants pass rush one them a superbowl, our d figures to be better this year with spags' system more refined, our young players having stepped up, more young talent at LB and DB, and Kiwi back. This D is very aggressive and versatile.

Chargers have enormous talent, they need to stay aggressive with the play calling and their d will be imposing.

Ravens have a good system and a lot of talent, Washington really helps them with CB depth.

The eagles have a very good young D that will bring heat and has a great secondary.

Who do you guys have at the top?
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It's hard to not say the Vikings, I picked them to have one of the best defenses last year also, two incredible mammoth DT's that plug the run game, and they create lots of turnovers and turn them into lots of points...And this was all before Jared Allen, so yea.
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Ravens are looking good for next year but they have to stay healthy. the return of a health Pryce, Rolle, McAllister and the addition of Washington helps with depth because our backup corners were awful.
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Watch this thread turn into a "how good will your teams defense be this year" thread lol.
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To be perfectly honest, probably the Jets.
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I'm not ready to say the Vikes will jump all the way to the league's best defense. Too big a jump imo, even with Leslie Frazier at work and the addition of Jared Allen.

I'd sooner pick the Colts to repeat, homer pick or not. They dealt with injury last year and still finished #1, plus the oldest guy on defense is Raheem Brock and he's only 29.
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Jets are a defensive lineman and a corner away from Mangenius' fully-fledged defense imo. But they are getting there so much, things are on the upswing.
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The Bucs always end up near the top. We picked up some much needed LB and secondary depth. As well as a big improvement at LDE, along with the fact taht Gaines and Tanard will be a year younger, I expect us to be near the top once again. As for best defence( Not top ranked) I really think the Steelers will have the best defence, I expect Lamarr woodley to do great
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I like what the Jets D is going to accomplish if Jenkins is healthy, he's going to plug up that middle and free up guys like Gholston and Pace to get after the QB, Revis should take that next jump towards being a lockdown guy, and Rhodes is still the playmaker back there...Jenkins probably wont get much credit, but if he is healthy that defense is going to be good and he will be a big reason why.

I really wanted Dallas to give up something to bring him in.
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I'm not ready to say the Vikes will jump all the way to the league's best defense. Too big a jump imo, even with Leslie Frazier at work and the addition of Jared Allen.

I'd sooner pick the Colts to repeat, homer pick or not. They dealt with injury last year and still finished #1, plus the oldest guy on defense is Raheem Brock and he's only 29.
The vikes Achilles heel was a lack of a pass rush. Allen is not only one of the best DEs in the league, but he'll also help the DEs already on the roster. Plus they're a lot better at safety.

Colts will have a good D but I don't think they're top 5 this year. If they're I didn't keep them out of bad situations as well as they did that D has some holes that would be exposed, so they may be top statistically but I don't think they'll be one of 5 best Ds on Sundays.

The jets with that line? I like Gholston's potential and the addition of pace but I don't think they're top this year. In a year when Pace is completely integrated, we see how Jenkins reacts to being the nose, they add a DE and Gholston adjusts to the NFL they'll be very good.
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If Terdell Sands plays well Oakland could be up there.
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Baltimore will be in the Top 5...without a doubt...if we stay healthy.
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The Texans I expect will be top 5 against the run, but with our situation at CB and safety pass defense will probably keep the Texans out of the top 10.

The Eagles have a good shot if the LB's gel, the only area of concern I have with the Eagles is safety. That position may hold the team back, it all depends on Dawkins.

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Minnesota Vikings, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Baltimore Ravens, San Diego Chargers

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I think people are sleeping on the Bears they dealt with a ton of injuries last year that really took a toll on the defense. I don't think they will return to absolute dominance, but I could easily see them being one of the top defenses in the game once again.
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Yep.

Our D has the potential to be pretty scary next year.

I'm still wondering why we passed on Dre Moore in the 4th...not that Lowery won't be worth it in the end.
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