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Old 05-16-2008, 10:07 AM    (permalink
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I was wondering if anyone knew of a site that I could find out what defensive schemes each team uses. Or if you know and wouldn't mind posting that would be great! Thanks!
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I don't knwo of any sites but I do knwo a good majority of the teams defensive schemes if you are interested.
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I'll take a shot. Question marks on stuff I'm not sure of.

AFC East
Patriots - 3-4 (with a little 4-3 lately)
Dolphins - 4-3 (some 3-4?)
Jets - 3-4
Bills - 4-3 (Cover/Tampa 2)

AFC North
Bengals - 4-3
Steelers - 3-4
Ravens - 4-3 (with some 46 and 3-4)
Browns - 3-4

AFC South
Colts - 4-3 (Tampa 2)
Jaguars - 4-3
Texans - 4-3
Titans - 4-3

AFC West
Chargers - 3-4
Raiders - 4-3 (some 46?)
Chiefs - 4-3 (Tampa 2?)
Broncos - 4-3

NFC East

Giants - 4-3
Redskins - 4-3
Eagles - 4-3
Cowboys - 3-4

NFC North
Vikings - 4-3 (Tampa/Cover 2?)
Packers - 4-3
Lions - 4-3 (Tampa 2)
Bears - 4-3 (Tampa 2)

NFC South
Falcons - 4-3
Panthers - 4-3
Buccaneers - 4-3 (Tampa 2)
Saints - 4-3
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:33 AM    (permalink
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Well there you go.
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Alot of teams say they run one front but really everyone runs a little bit of everything...The Giants def. ran some 3-4 fronts...the Jets and Pats will switch up their front depending on who they're playing...etc.
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Also differentiate the different kinds of 3-4 schemes. NE/CLE/NYJ use a 2-gap contain 3-4 while SD/PIT/DAL all use attacking versions which emphasize speed and blitzing over power and containment.
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True. I noted which teams I knew "shook things up" somewhat often. There are some teams (Jaguars) that never alternate from their base 4-3, although now with Gregg Williams we might throw in a 46 or even a 3-4 now and then.
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Giants really mix up our d, we'll use 3 safeties, 4 DEs, a 3-4, all kinds of variations of the 4-3 and many other schemes. Our D changes a lot depending on down, distance, opposition, health, etc.
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AFC East
Patriots - 3-4 (with a little 4-3 lately)
Dolphins - 4-3 (some 3-4?)
Jets - 3-4
Bills - 4-3 (Cover/Tampa 2)

AFC North
Bengals - 4-3
Steelers - 3-4
Ravens - 4-3 (with some 46 and 3-4)
Browns - 3-4

AFC South
Colts - 4-3 (Tampa 2)
Jaguars - 4-3
Texans - 4-3
Titans - 4-3

AFC West
Chargers - 3-4
Raiders - 4-3 (some 46?)
Chiefs - 4-3 (Tampa 2?)
Broncos - 4-3

NFC East

Giants - 4-3
Redskins - 4-3
Eagles - 4-3
Cowboys - 3-4

NFC North
Vikings - 4-3 (Tampa/Cover 2?)
Packers - 4-3
Lions - 4-3 (Tampa 2)
Bears - 4-3 (Tampa 2)

NFC South
Falcons - 4-3
Panthers - 4-3
Buccaneers - 4-3 (Tampa 2)
Saints - 4-3

can't do the NFC West?
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Eagles run some 3-4 and Johnson has hinted that they are going to use the 3-4 set a lot more this season.
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NFC West
49ers 3-4
Rams 4-3 (some 3-4?)
Seahawks 4-3 (some 3-4?)
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Good post Unseen. The only thing that jumps out at me is that Pittsburgh tends to run some cover 2 schemes out of the 3-4 and that the Cardinals sort of ran a hybrid scheme last year that would probably be best described as a 5-2 rather than either a 3-4 or 4-3.

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There's also been a lot of suggestion that Oakland will finally run some of Rob Ryan's 3-4 schemes this year, but I'm betting that depends heavily on whether Terdell Sands convinces anyone that he is capable of manning the nose.
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Thanks for the help guys! Unseen, I'm impressed!
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Actually don't the cardinals run a 3-4? At least some type of hybrid.



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Sorry didn't see this.
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I could be completely off base here but I thought the Dolphins ran more of a 3-4 base than a 4-3.
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I could be completely off base here but I thought the Dolphins ran more of a 3-4 base than a 4-3.
The Dolphins are one of a few teams that don't actually run a defense
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49ers 3-4
Rams 4-3 (some 3-4?)
Seahawks 4-3 (some 3-4?)
Cardinals 4-3
49ers - (3-4) Two very good man-on-man corners but not much else IMHO besides Patrick Willis.

Rams - Base defense is 4-3. Haslett claims to run a 3-4 at times but thye reality is it's only for specific down and distances. In our 3-4 Haslett brings a 'buck' linebacker who gets moved around and position himself where he can get the best mismatch. The philosophy is based on man coverage and blitzing but last year we just didn't have the horses.

Cardinals - (4-3) My understanding is they would like to move to 3-4 if they can get the personel to do it. Alan Branch was definately a draft pick last year designed to move them that direction but so far work in progress. In the 4-3 they like to play SS Adrian Wilson close to line 'cause he's much better at that than just dropping in coverage.

Seattle - 4-3 Not sure what the exact mix of zone/man cover is but I would be suprised if it wasn't more zone. Struggled against deep pass plays two years but improved safety play last year helped out. Strong front seven so much much need to put radical schemes in. Can get some pressure most games with just their front 4.
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The Redskins (based off of G.Williams and Blatche this year) could be doing some different things this year.

We traditionally ran a 4-3, but sometimes we would switch into a modified 46. I think we could see more Tampa2/ corners on an island with Blatche similar to how he ran it up in Chicago.

However Blatche did say that he is sticking to what worked last year, and would make minimal changes to it.
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I thought the eagles ran a 46 did they change it
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Green Bay does bump n run, rarely blitzes
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I guess it should be noted, for those that are interested, that Green Bay and Oakland almost run man coverage exclusively. They are the only teams I am aware of that do this.
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Arizona and Miami run 3-4 base defenses. Baltimore is supposedly a 46 or at least some form of a 4-3, but they list 3 linemen and 4 linebackers (LDT, NT, RDT, LOLB, LILB, RILB, ROLB), and their assignments for each player is pretty much a 3-4. For our purposes Balitmore is a 3-4. Also the tampa 2 is a little different than the "plain old" cover 2. Buffalo doesn't really run a tampa 2.
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Jets base defense is the 3-4, but we play 4-3 also. And we also play 2 down linemen, 1 down linemen and a bunch of other sets to confuse the offense. Its a mix defense, a defense built on confusing the QB and the offense.
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I guess it should be noted, for those that are interested, that Green Bay and Oakland almost run man coverage exclusively. They are the only teams I am aware of that do this.
Doesnt Baltimore?

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49ers - (3-4) Two very good man-on-man corners but not much else IMHO besides Patrick Willis.
We got a stout safety in run support. A bunch of what ifs after that. We definitely upgraded our D-line with Smith and drafting Balmer. Manny Lawson is the biggest What If on the team. Hopefully our defense can answer some questions this season.
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