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Old 10-20-2008, 12:20 PM    (permalink) 
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Bear Pascoe out of Fresno State is going to be a very underrated draft prospect at TE in 2009. Great size at 6'6" 260 lbs" and has solid hands. He's also a very strong blocker.
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Bear Pascoe out of Fresno State is going to be a very underrated draft prospect at TE in 2009. Great size at 6'6" 260 lbs" and has solid hands. He's also a very strong blocker.
I know nothing about this guy, but his name is BEAR? I want him lol. Obviously it's fitting considering he's gargantuan, but man I need to watch this kid play. Sounds like a good fit for ATL.
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I like he kid out of Wisconsin, but I don't think he'd fit in Atlanta too well...great pass catcher but I've not been overly impressed with Beckum's Blocking.
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Coffman doesn't really have that good of blocking skills. Tight ends in Mularkey's offense are blockers first, receivers second. Someone like Pettigrew should come to mind...
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NO. Coffman should come to mind.
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I like he kid out of Wisconsin, but I don't think he'd fit in Atlanta too well...great pass catcher but I've not been overly impressed with Beckum's Blocking.

Because he's not. I think he weights like 230. He's a spread offense TE dream. I like him a lot. We already gave Hartsock (our big blocking TE) a 3 year deal. We need someone who is a passing game threat.
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Hrmm, at the risk of sounding like a 14 year old maddenite... I would consider trading a 2nd round pick this year for Kellen WinslowII. Does that mean i need to start posting on a different forum lol.
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Hrmm, at the risk of sounding like a 14 year old maddenite... I would consider trading a 2nd round pick this year for Kellen WinslowII. Does that mean i need to start posting on a different forum lol.

I'd trade a 2nd in a heartbeat.
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Well yeah, a few thoughts about it.

He would need to show us that he is more mature now. He would get plenty of balls his way but he would really really need to buy into this team concept. The mess in Dallas scares me in going for guys who cant see past their own ego

We offered a 2nd for 32 year old Gonzales. BUT, he doesnt have injury history and i have a hard time thinking a TE would ever be traded for a 1st rounder.

Coffman looks like he will be gone by our 2nd rounder ruining my vision of a Mizou 1st and 2nd rounder. There are other TE's to spend a 2nd on but none seem as dynamic as Coffman or Winslow.
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We offered a 2nd for Gonzo apparently. By that sense, we could offer a 2nd to Winslow.

And the Browns do need help. They wouldnt mind a draft pick. Winslow would be so terrific.

We might just be dreaming though guys.
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We offered a 2nd for Gonzo apparently. By that sense, we could offer a 2nd to Winslow.

And the Browns do need help. They wouldnt mind a draft pick. Winslow would be so terrific.

We might just be dreaming though guys.
Yeah we may be dreaming. But a) its bye week and im bored AND b) The only thing stopping it would be the Browns wanting to keep him. We HAVE offered a 2nd already for a pure recieving TE AND he really hasnt done anything bad character-wise since he was at Miami, i thought he had had numerous stuff ups but i hadnt really followed him untill now.

Dude K2 is only 25. Coffman is 23.
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What round does an injured Brandan TATE WR/PR get drafted? 4th?
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What round does an injured Brandan TATE WR/PR get drafted? 4th?

Depends on how he tests after the injury. I'd say a high of 2 round and a low of 6th.
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Yeah we may be dreaming. But a) its bye week and im bored AND b) The only thing stopping it would be the Browns wanting to keep him. We HAVE offered a 2nd already for a pure recieving TE AND he really hasnt done anything bad character-wise since he was at Miami, i thought he had had numerous stuff ups but i hadnt really followed him untill now.

Dude K2 is only 25. Coffman is 23.
If we got K2 I'd be ecstatic, but it's not in the cards, no way.
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If we pick outside the top 10 I would give our first for Winslow. To be honest, he may be a better talent than anyone in this draft.

But I doubt that would happen.
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I mean it really depends on alot of things. I think we all agree that TE is not as valuable a position as CB and D Hall was 24 and never really been injured and went for a 2nd and a 5th last year year. Id certainly do that.


Looking toward the draft again, even though its against TD's philosophy i think we may well see some more trade ups into the 2nd or 3rd rounds this year. To me, we need impact at NT, SS, Recieving TE AND (depending on the rest of the season) CB. So thats 4 players, maybe 2 F/A's + 1st 2 pics OR 1 F/A + first two pics + a trade up. Definately think they will bring in one F/A.

Once those positions are filled either with F/A's or higher draft pics nearly all our pics will be for depth/development down the road IMO. Id like a PR, an OC RE and WLB to develop over time and a RT/RG to keep Dahl and Clabo on their toes at camp. 5th & 6ths would be ok on filling alot of those 2nd tier needs.
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We have blockers in Peele and Hartstock. Every defense we play knows they are not much of a threat at all in the pass, so therefore when they are in, we normally run or have some sort or short pass play action.

Coffman will get better at blocking. He will have to no matter what team he is on. I mean even Dallas Clark throws a few blocks here and there.

We will not touch Pettigrew, He has off the field concerns. Not our type of player.
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As much as I love Coffman, there is no way id be upset w/ getting Winslow for a 2nd rounder. The thing is I just don't see that happening, so we should just stick to the draft.

Also. if we are even remotely interested in Winslow, that would rule out any type of FA signing b/c we would obviously give him a big contract so I opt for Gamble in FA and Coffman in the draft, for maybe the same price as just Winslow or a tad more, depending on Gambles price.
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We have blockers in Peele and Hartstock. Every defense we play knows they are not much of a threat at all in the pass, so therefore when they are in, we normally run or have some sort or short pass play action.

Coffman will get better at blocking. He will have to no matter what team he is on. I mean even Dallas Clark throws a few blocks here and there.

We will not touch Pettigrew, He has off the field concerns. Not our type of player.
Maybe, but these are not McKay's Falcons. Looking at the Patriots, they often bring in suspect characters because they have leadership on the team. With leaders like Matt Ryan we will eventually be able to bring in players with question marks.
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In the days and hours leading up to last Tuesday’s trade deadline, players such as tight end Tony Gonzalez and wide receiver Roy Williams constantly were tracked.

The one player who went overlooked publicly, but not privately, was Cleveland tight end Kellen Winslow, who was dangled before the deadline.

The Browns explored the possibility of trading Winslow, according to multiple league sources, but never could get enough in return to consummate a deal. Cleveland declined to comment on the proposed trade –- Browns general manager Phil Savage emailed Tuesday that “a number of calls are made ahead of the trade deadline regarding different players … those conversations are confidential in nature” -– but it is easy enough to figure out why Cleveland would have considered dealing Winslow.

For starters, he is seeking a new contract that could be difficult for the Browns to squeeze under their salary cap. Also, Cleveland traded its third-round pick in the 2009 draft for a fourth-round pick in this year’s draft, which it used on tight end Martin Rucker -– and now is looking to add more picks. Plus, there is the public dispute the team has gotten into with Winslow over his staph infection.
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Kellen defently shows he does not want to be back in Cleveland and would like to be traded, so they pretty much have to trade him so this drops his status.
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Kellen defently shows he does not want to be back in Cleveland and would like to be traded, so they pretty much have to trade him so this drops his status.
I don't think I want a cancer like that around...
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you know i have to agree. He is a good player and would help Matt Ryan and the offense, but you dont want the coaching staff to have problems like they had in cleveland. I hate his character ever since he was in college.
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