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Old 06-17-2008, 02:54 PM    (permalink
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Another brutal pick by former GM Rich McKay falls by the wayside. The 2006 second-round round pick was once thought to have top-10 talent, but he's proven too slow to play cornerback and not tough enough to play safety. He should still get a second chance elsewhere.
That's pretty crazy. I thought he was going to be a good one...
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I knew he would bust out, never thought he would be a good player.
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I think it's more of an attitude problem than a physical one.
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If he's still in shape and stuff, I wouldn't mind the Colts taking a flyer on him I guess, he'd be a decent fit I think.
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If he's still in shape and stuff, I wouldn't mind the Colts taking a flyer on him I guess, he'd be a decent fit I think.
As a corner or safety?
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ALOT of teams should draw some interest, I don't see why he would clear waivers...I wish we would give him a look at safety for competition at the least, we could use another body and I always loved his athleticism and measurables.
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Yeah I think he'll have a new home by the end of the week. 2nd round picks even when busted tend to have enough talent to get a quick 2nd chance
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How was that a brutal pick? Everyone thought Falcon got a steal when they picked him. Wasn't he in the Top-15 in some mock?
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How was that a brutal pick? Everyone thought Falcon got a steal when they picked him. Wasn't he in the Top-15 in some mock?
It's a brutal pick in the sense that he got cut after only two years
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http://www.atlantafalcons.com/News/A..._Williams.aspx

boy, he only got 2 years of a chance...

Cover 2 teams should jump on him as a CB and any defense could take a good long look at him as a S.

Won't be on the market long I don't think...
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I wouldn't mind having him at CB for GB. He is similar player to Flowers, but taller and possibly faster. But I would like it if he went down to 205 instead at 212.

I don't think this is a good cut, in 2 years he was moved and wasn't given a shot to stay at a position, but it does make me wonder why would the Falcons cut him, he is a solid player to have for depth reasons and wasn't costing them much to have him on the roster.
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I wouldn't mind having him at CB for GB. He is similar player to Flowers, but taller and possibly faster. But I would like it if he went down to 205 instead at 212.
Faster? The aforementioned article just claimed he was too slow to play CB. Plus one of the main reasons why he fell so far on draft day was poor hip swivel. He's a zone coverage CB or a deep safety. You don't want him guarding anyone man to man
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Was checking up on Falcons board and came across this about Jamaal Anderson...

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Another bust? ouch.
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The skins still have a huge hole at FS so i would love for us to pick him up.
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Another bust? ouch.
I heard about that yesturday I believe. Quite the series of problems Atlanta is facing now....
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How was that a brutal pick? Everyone thought Falcon got a steal when they picked him. Wasn't he in the Top-15 in some mock?
And thus why there are two different grades for a team's draft. Grade 1 is immediately after the draft to see how the team addressed need and value, while Grade 2 is to see if teams were able to cultivate the talent and produce a quality player with respect to Grade 1.
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Haha, this is funny. All of you wanting him. I understand the talent he used to have, but it's just not there anymore. I loved the pick coming out, and I thought he'd be a kickass FS.

He wanted to be a corner and couldn't unseat Jason Webster. I blamed that on Jim Mora.

Under Petrino he was going to be moved back to saftey. He couldn't take over for Chris Crocker.

Now I realize this is because he is lazy, and just not that good.

The fact is he is a bust with mental problems. He missed voluntary camps and then showed up weighing 240 pounds.
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Haha, this is funny. All of you wanting him. I understand the talent he used to have, but it's just not there anymore. I loved the pick coming out, and I thought he'd be a kickass FS.

He wanted to be a corner and couldn't unseat Jason Webster. I blamed that on Jim Mora.

Under Petrino he was going to be moved back to saftey. He couldn't take over for Chris Crocker.

The fact is he is a bust with mental problems. He missed voluntary camps and then showed up weighing 240 pounds.
ok....linebacker then! or better yet, bulk him up another 20 pounds and line him up at DE! boo-yah.

I still think some team reels him in before he clears wavers. Lots of teams like to think they can fix guys who "had" the talent...
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boy, he only got 2 years of a chance...

Cover 2 teams should jump on him as a CB and any defense could take a good long look at him as a S.

Won't be on the market long I don't think...
We currently employ a cover 2 system... so I doubt he was fitting in as a corner.

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Oh my god, we suck. He's going to get killed leverage wise at 6'6. Can't hurt too much since he played at about 300 pounds last year.
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I wouldn't mind having him at CB for GB. He is similar player to Flowers, but taller and possibly faster. But I would like it if he went down to 205 instead at 212.
Ugh, I knew someone was going to say that.
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i think he could be a very good corner for a team that runs a tampa-2 scheme

maybe the Colts, Bucs, maybe the bills
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i think he could be a very good corner for a team that runs a tampa-2 scheme

maybe the Colts, Bucs, maybe the bills

You think? Do 240 pound corners with poor hips work in those schemes and not our cover 2?
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You think? Do 240 pound corners with poor hips work in those schemes and not our cover 2?
i didnt bother to read he was 240lbs
thats really not good for him, if he shows up that heavy he must've lost so much speed.
my brother who is a falcons fan used to talk about how much of a steal this pick was


and i just told him about Jimmy Williams getting cut, and JA possibly moving to DT
hes disgusted in the team now




well if hes 240lbs...... i see alot of cashiers who are 240+
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240 lbs. Wow thats Mike Williams esque size for a corner.

Atlanta must be impressed with Chevis Jackson enough to make this move though. Should be an interesting secondary to face Detroit Week 1.
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