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probation violation.

not a good start to their attempt at repeating as champs...
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probation violation.

not a good start to their attempt at repeating as champs...
A couple things of note:

1. This is stemming from a violation before he was drafted with the Giants, so there isn't any correlation between the Giants and Bradshaw being in jail.

2. We are 3-deep at RB with Ward now replacing Bradshaw. I'm upset, but I can live with it.
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yea we made one of these in the NY Giants forums, i know it says that it has to do with something he did before he was drafted, but wouldnt he be jailed for something that he did recently during his probation, because otherwise it doesnt make sense
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do you think we'd lose him for a part of the season?
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No, the giants were aware of this before we even drafted him.
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i know its from something earlier, him stealing a PS2 to be exact i believe. thats why I said "probation violation" in the first post which tells that he was on probation for something he already did...

and I know the giants are deep at RB, but Bradshaw was a different kind of back to the rest of that trio. Powerful Jacobs, more intermediate Ward and speedy Bradshaw as the lighting.

It wouldn't surpise me with the NFL's crackdown on players getting in trouble that he could see a slight suspension or something come out of this. He apparently did something wrong to wind up violating his probation....

probably wouldn't be any more than 2 games and as long as the other backs are healthy, the giants should be ok.

just not the type of thing that really....helps.....a team trying to repeat as champions
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Yup, he has a 3rd-4th round grade, but dropped because of that. Also fact in that point in time, Goodell was stricter because of all the other stuff in the past years. So everyone was trying to follow the rules, and so we happened to get a steal. Also, it helped that our owner's daughter was in the movie "We are Marshall". So on set, she had heard of Bradshaw, and her father also got a scouting list with his name. So during the premiere of We are Marshall Chris Mara got to talk to the HC and everyone about Bradshaw.
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I really like Bradshaw, hope he doesn't have to miss any time during the season, he has some big play ability that you want in the game.
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maybe TC and the preseason but don't anyone be surprised if he misses the first game or two of the season.

Goodell is cracking down and clearly, he did something he wasn't supposed to be doing in order to be jailed for violation of probation
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This is insane! How can "the violation was an old one" hold up as an excuse? Bradshaw wasn't a free man. He was on parole, which basically means that he SHOULD be in jail right now... And now he IS in jail, because he violated his parole. His violation was probably not a very big one, but fact of the matter is, if you don't respect the rules of your parole, then you deserve to be in the big house.

Bradshaw should get suspended by the league under the "We don't want our players to be associated with being ass holes" policy.
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maybe TC and the preseason but don't anyone be surprised if he misses the first game or two of the season.

Goodell is cracking down and clearly, he did something he wasn't supposed to be doing in order to be jailed for violation of probation
Until I see something major come out I'm assuming the mighty midget will be toting the rock.
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This is insane! How can "the violation was an old one" hold up as an excuse? Bradshaw wasn't a free man. He was on parole, which basically means that he SHOULD be in jail right now... And now he IS in jail, because he violated his parole. His violation was probably not a very big one, but fact of the matter is, if you don't respect the rules of your parole, then you deserve to be in the big house.

Bradshaw should get suspended by the league under the "We don't want our players to be associated with being ass holes" policy.
Actually the midget's a good guy who f'd up in college, I'm pretty sure all of us have done/will do the same. It really isn't hard to f up your parole if you get a dick on your case.
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Not only that but he's probably our toughest runner, the dude never stops churning those powerful little legs.
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Actually the midget's a good guy who f'd up in college, I'm pretty sure all of us have done/will do the same. It really isn't hard to f up your parole if you get a dick on your case.
well, this could just be my opinion, but an underage/speeding ticket/getting caught with pot isnt exactly in the same boat as breaking into a dorm room and stealing a playstation.

I would count the first several under "mistakes college kids make" and the latter under "serious criminal activity."

I'm curious to know what he did here to violate probation. that should tell us a lot. something stupid like he forgot to report in is probably no big deal in the leagues eyes but another act of criminal activity would be.
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well, this could just be my opinion, but an underage/speeding ticket/getting caught with pot isnt exactly in the same boat as breaking into a dorm room and stealing a playstation.

I would count the first several under "mistakes college kids make" and the latter under "serious criminal activity."

I'm curious to know what he did here to violate probation. that should tell us a lot. something stupid like he forgot to report in is probably no big deal in the leagues eyes but another act of criminal activity would be.
Stealing a PS2 game is "serious criminal activity"? Seriously? Maybe I just deal with a lot of scumbags but that's more in the "dick move" category than the "serious criminal activity". And every college student has made his fair share of dick moves.
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well, this could just be my opinion, but an underage/speeding ticket/getting caught with pot isnt exactly in the same boat as breaking into a dorm room and stealing a playstation.

I would count the first several under "mistakes college kids make" and the latter under "serious criminal activity."

I'm curious to know what he did here to violate probation. that should tell us a lot. something stupid like he forgot to report in is probably no big deal in the leagues eyes but another act of criminal activity would be.
I agree with you totally on that BeerBaron...Breaking into someones dorm and stealing a PS is on a different level than stupid things college kids might do.

He probably wont be slapped to hard for this violation of probation if it were him just missing a meeting or something. He will prolly still get to work with the team and may be suspended a game or two. Nothing to big. Though if its a heavy violation where he did something pretty bad...he may see a longer ban. He has been in prison for almost a week, so it has to more than just missing a probation officer meeting, I would think?
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Stealing a PS2 game is "serious criminal activity"? Seriously? Maybe I just deal with a lot of scumbags but that's more in the "dick move" category than the "serious criminal activity". And every college student has made his fair share of dick moves.
see....i think the difference is between whether or not it directly hurts other people in my book.

drinking underage (as long as you don't drive) isn't really a big deal imo. but stealing something is.

if you steal something from me, it means you thought about it, and then took something from me which belonged to me. not cool, id be pissed as hell.

and the initial offense isn't what the league will punish him on if they do this time around. it would depend on whatever wrongdoing he brought about to violate his probation
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Stealing a PS2 game is "serious criminal activity"? Seriously? Maybe I just deal with a lot of scumbags but that's more in the "dick move" category than the "serious criminal activity". And every college student has made his fair share of dick moves.
If you left your door unlocked and someone walked into your house and stole something worth 200 dollars and then walked out, you would only consider it a "dick" move? That mo fo stole something!!!! Something you worked your butt off to pay for. He knows you worked your butt off to pay for it and still walks in and takes it! That is "serious criminal activity"!
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His first incident in the NFL, and it looks like it isn't even an incident as he is serving a previous offense. You don't get suspended for first incidents.
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I agree with you totally on that BeerBaron...Breaking into someones dorm and stealing a PS is on a different level than stupid things college kids might do.

He probably wont be slapped to hard for this violation of probation if it were him just missing a meeting or something. He will prolly still get to work with the team and may be suspended a game or two. Nothing to big. Though if its a heavy violation where he did something pretty bad...he may see a longer ban. He has been in prison for almost a week, so it has to more than just missing a probation officer meeting, I would think?
yeah thats what i'm thinking. something little the league probably won't care but if he committed some other crime, they may.

and to greatescape again, a dick move is when your buddy takes something of yours without asking you and is like "hey i borrowed you game." i'd be like "well you should have asked." thats a dick move.

now i don't know the whole story of his situation but if he was just taking something of his friends without permission, i doubt he would have gotten into serious trouble for it because friends don't report friends over little crap like that. (or at least not in my experience.)
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I agree with you totally on that BeerBaron...Breaking into someones dorm and stealing a PS is on a different level than stupid things college kids might do.

He probably wont be slapped to hard for this violation of probation if it were him just missing a meeting or something. He will prolly still get to work with the team and may be suspended a game or two. Nothing to big. Though if its a heavy violation where he did something pretty bad...he may see a longer ban. He has been in prison for almost a week, so it has to more than just missing a probation officer meeting, I would think?
You act like college dorms are vaults, the door was freaking unlocked, ish happens when you leave your dorm unlocked, Ahmad just screwed up and was that guy. Still not a big problem, more of just a dick move.
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see....i think the difference is between whether or not it directly hurts other people in my book.

drinking underage (as long as you don't drive) isn't really a big deal imo. but stealing something is.

if you steal something from me, it means you thought about it, and then took something from me which belonged to me. not cool, id be pissed as hell.

and the initial offense isn't what the league will punish him on if they do this time around. it would depend on whatever wrongdoing he brought about to violate his probation
Or it means I saw an open dorm with cool ish on the inside and was dick enough to take ish from someone who i didn't know's room. Plus I'm waiting to see why his parole was violated.
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