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Old 06-22-2008, 04:31 PM    (permalink
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Because their pass rushing skills aren't on par. In 48 starts Ware has 33.5 sacks. In 37 starts Merriman has 39.5 sacks. Merriman's sacks rate is way higher than Ware's.

Just to make a extrapolation point: If both players maintain their current sack pace and start 16 of 16 games per season until they are both 30, Ware would have 89.5 career sacks. Merriman would have 159 career sacks. That's a huge difference.

Granted, that gives Merriman a distinct advantage because he's two years younger, but he's averaging nearly 6 more sacks per full season to date. Ware is certainly more versatile, but he's not the dominant rushing force that Merriman is by a long shot (or, at least, hasn't been to date).
Merriman has also been used a lot more as a blitzer to this point because he's lacked Ware's versatility, not saying Ware's a better pass rusher just saying that the statistical argument is weak when comparing two guys who are used very differently.
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pretty random list, i don't see anything in common among them
hahaha....even becomes merkier when you factor in his name
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Ten Favorite (and best) Players

1. Braylon Edwards
2. Steve Hutchinson
3. Charles Woodson
4. David Harris
5. LaMarr Woodley
6. Tom Brady
7. Leon Hall
8. Marlin Jackson
9. Jon Jansen
10. Larry Foote
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iam going for sympathy and only none-saints :

donovan mcnabb
charles tillman
jeremiah trotter
nick barnett
steven jackson
donte stallworth
adrian wilson
lito sheppard
brian dawkins
donald driver
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:45 PM    (permalink
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:15 PM    (permalink
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They are all Michigan players
ya, i wasn't actually serious. internet sarcasm never works
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They are all Michigan players
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:17 PM    (permalink
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his username is Michigan, and those are his players that he chose.
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1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. LaDanian Tomlinson
4. Kevin Williams
5. Ed Reed
6. Bob Sanders
7. Shawne Merriman
8. Jason Peters
9. DeMarcus Ware
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his username is Michigan, and those are his players that he chose.
ya, i wasn't actually serious. internet sarcasm never works
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oh, I think it does
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:19 PM    (permalink
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Michigan clearly has the best list on here so far, you guys should take note of this kid he has style!

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Old 06-22-2008, 07:16 PM    (permalink
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Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, LaDanian Tomlinson, Steve Smith, larry Fitzgerald, Brian Westbrook, DeMeco Ryans, DeMarcus Ware, Champ Bailey, Osi Umenyiora.

No particular order.
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Troy Polamalu, Ben Roethlisberger, Hines Ward, Casey Hampton, Marvel Smith are my top 5
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:47 AM    (permalink
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Andre Johnson, Adrein Wilson, Patrick Willis, LT, Charles Woodson, Braylon Edwards and there's alot more
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:00 PM    (permalink
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No order...

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Brian Westbrook, LaDainian Tomlinson, Randy Moss, Bob Sanders, Joe Thomas, Braylon Edwards, Patrick Willis, DeMarcus Ware.
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Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Bob Sanders
DeMarcus Ware
Jared Allen
Steve Smith(when healthy i think he is the most explosive weapon in the game)
Shawn Merriman
LaDanian Tomlinson
Adrian Peterson
Brian Urlacher

I think that is a pretty good list
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just picking players i really like to watch:
Marques Colston, Devin Hester, Brian Urlacher, Osi Uminyora, Bob Sanders, Adrian Peterson,Drew Brees, Patrick willis, Brian Westbrook and Troy Smith.

Not claiming these are the best players (T. Smith isn't even close to being a top notch qb (yet)) however I like watchin them play
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no order

Ladainian Tomlinson
Brian Westbrook
Adrian Peterson
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Demarcus Ware
Champ Bailey
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Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Brian Westbrook, LaDainian Tomlinson, Randy Moss, Bob Sanders, Joe Thomas, Braylon Edwards, Patrick Willis, DeMarcus Ware.
You're calling Edwards the 2nd best WR in football.
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You're calling Edwards the 2nd best WR in football.
He is a Michigan fan.
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You're calling Edwards the 2nd best WR in football.
Indeed I am. He's fantastic.
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He is a Michigan fan.
That's exactly what I said.
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16 touchdowns, >16 ypc, still just 25 years old....He's the man.
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He is a Michigan fan.
It's not like Braylon is just average, he's not as consistent in his overall game as say Reggie Wayne(but who is), but he has the potential to get alot better which is scary after the year he had...He's been one of my favorite WR's for a long time.
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